Writing Deconstructing the 'Isekai' genre and your personal opinions

[Laeyioun]

I should revise my words and how I think. I still stand by my opinion in that some stories can be identified as wish-fulfillment from the outset, while others only have aspects of it.

The most important factors to ascertain whether one is, is when successes/fantasies and plot armor come very conveniently and easily, and how it was incorporated- whether it would bring pleasure and satisfaction or it was intended to absorb the reader into the story and invest more emotions into the characters within.

I'd never consider the likes or Wolverine or Superman as wish-fulfillment, but specifically the ending of The Beauty and The Beast live action adaptation could be considered as one due to the fact that the original source material had the beast dying, whereas Disney's had a blissful one.

It is my personal interpretation. Because I think the original ending would have crushed the audience and break their hearts, Disney opted for a more wish fulfilling ending. You can argue that it is just a good ending rather than what I said. But this is what I think as it caused intense joy and satisfied the fantastical expectation of most viewers that they would end up together against all odds.

Besides that, there is always the difference in opinions and judgement. We all have our stubbornness, I admit I do have it.

 

[Ral]

It is my personal interpretation. Because I think the original ending would have crushed the audience and break their hearts, Disney opted for a more wish fulfilling ending. You can argue that it is just a good ending rather than what I said. But this is what I think as it caused intense joy and satisfied the fantastical expectation of most viewers that they would end up together against all odds.

Well, it is Disney. They never really make stories where the protagonist and the love interest dies. This is really more of sticking to the Disney formula than actual wish-fulfillment.

You see, Disney has a brand, an image to keep. I mean consider something like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. An incredibly film you must admit, but why is it not placed under the Disney banner? Because it doesn't fit the brand image. On the similar vein, we have The Hunchback of Notre Dame. This time, it is distributed under the Disney name, but they rarely give attention to it. Why? Again, it just doesn't fit the Disney image so they hush it as much as they can almost to the point of pretending that it never existed.

 

[Laeyioun]

Well, it is Disney. They never really make stories where the protagonist and the love interest dies. This is really more of sticking to the Disney formula than actual wish-fulfillment.

You see, Disney has a brand, an image to keep. I mean consider something like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. An incredibly film you must admit, but why is it not placed under the Disney banner? Because it doesn't fit the brand image. On the similar vein, we have The Hunchback of Notre Dame. This time, it is distributed under the Disney name, but they rarely give attention to it. Why? Again, it just doesn't fit the Disney image so they hush it as much as they can almost to the point of pretending that it never existed.

I agree with many of your points though. It's just that I've come across Japanese, Chinese, and Korean novels that have their own twists on wish-fulfillment.

 

[DevilPogoStick]

...I am now reminded of Isekais where:

1. The protagonist is quickly outed as an outcast to society (either by circumstances or the world is actually full of terrible people).

2. The classroom Isekais, just to make harems, red shirts, and the occasional jerks (from dicks to utter psychopaths the moment they gain power) a lot easier to get.

3. The revenge Isekais, where getting wronged leads to a lot of retribution that can get pretty crazy.

4. Isekais where sex is a main thing like...Someone is guaranteed to get boned.

I mean yeah, quality definitely varies as sometimes they can be some really utter edgelord stuff or decent.

...It's either those or the "trapped on an island of monsters/cultists/crazy shit with a bunch of useless assholes" genre I keep finding manga of.

 

[Laeyioun]

...I am now reminded of Isekais where:

1. The protagonist is quickly outed as an outcast to society (either by circumstances or the world is actually full of terrible people).

2. The classroom Isekais, just to make harems, red shirts, and the occasional jerks (from dicks to utter psychopaths the moment they gain power) a lot easier to get.

3. The revenge Isekais, where getting wronged leads to a lot of retribution that can get pretty crazy.

4. Isekais where sex is a main thing like...Someone is guaranteed to get boned.

I mean yeah, quality definitely varies as sometimes they can be some really utter edgelord stuff or decent.

...It's either those or the "trapped on an island of monsters/cultists/crazy shit with a bunch of useless assholes" genre I keep finding manga of.

These are staples of generic Isekais. Particularly Mangas! Many people even do read it because there's nothing better they could find at that point in time, just by looking at the comments and discussions for each chapter.