ban wave feedback

[Tabula_Rasa]

I expected that authors, due to their ability to create varied characters, would be better at empathizing with different points of view.

Sorry my dude, authors are just as varied as the grass on the beach. And the ones most vocal are always gonna be the one most idealistic and most ready to wield their own justice with unblinking ferocity, be it good or ill.

Authors are all varying degrees of monsters with god complexes.

 

[Anonjohn20]

I have no issue with SH's rules or enforcing them. Since I'm not an author, they really don't apply to me anyway. What kind of bothers me is the lack of concern for the reader. Now, if this was an authors only club, unannounced purges wouldn't be a problem. That's the punishment, for breaking the rules, fine. But 404'ing, without any warning or explanation, stories that readers have numerous hours invested in, is unfair to readers. I understand this is a Scribble Hub issue not that of the forum. What I found annoying on the forum is that some (not all) authors had a uncaring, if you don't like it, go someplace else attitude towards the readers. I expected that authors, due to their ability to create varied characters, would be better at empathizing with different points of view. I know we're enjoying the fruits of your labor, basically for nothing and I appreciate it. As freeloaders, maybe we don't really deserve much respect. But I'd hope that's not the case. Ok, Valid point or not... I'm done beating on this dead horse.

You seem obsessed with turning this into an author vs. reader issue. Has it not occurred to you at all that some of the people that have disagreed with you are readers (like me)? There have always been translation sites; there was no reason for translators to come here. If anything, they are the ones who screwed you by coming here knowing that they'd eventually get banned rather than posting in a site that accepts them. Had they posted their story in one of the many sites that accept translations, there'd be no disruption to your reading (of course, only people doing authorized translations would even consider that; the people who haven't posted anywhere else were stealing stories and posting them here without the authors' authorization). You are portraying yourself as a victim, but at the end of the day it wasn't the site (that is doing everything in its power to not be taken down due to a DMCA) that wronged you; it was the people who stole the stories you would come to enjoy and never told you where it was originally posted.

I mean, what is stopping you from reading those stories on WN and the numerous other Chinese-run sites that offer them?

Bingo. This is what many people here have already stated, and the ones who don't want to hear it are somehow being "attacked by condescending authors that have 0 empathy."

 

[HungrySheep]

I have no issue with SH's rules or enforcing them. Since I'm not an author, they really don't apply to me anyway. What kind of bothers me is the lack of concern for the reader. Now, if this was an authors only club, unannounced purges wouldn't be a problem. That's the punishment, for breaking the rules, fine. But 404'ing, without any warning or explanation, stories that readers have numerous hours invested in, is unfair to readers. I understand this is a Scribble Hub issue not that of the forum. What I found annoying on the forum is that some (not all) authors had a uncaring, if you don't like it, go someplace else attitude towards the readers. I expected that authors, due to their ability to create varied characters, would be better at empathizing with different points of view. I know we're enjoying the fruits of your labor, basically for nothing and I appreciate it. As freeloaders, maybe we don't really deserve much respect. But I'd hope that's not the case. Ok, Valid point or not... I'm done beating on this dead horse.

Again, ScribbleHub was never intended to host translations. The fact that translations have survived for so long on this site is a miracle itself. ScribbleHub was meant to host original fictions, not provide an avenue for illegal translations and illegal "translators" to exploit readers and turn a profit with no effort. There are legitimate translation groups you can find using NovelUpdates, a website that is purposely dedicated to aggregating and logging translated novels. Your numerous hours invested are not gone. You just need to access ScribbleHub's sister site.

The reason why there was no warning is because the rule has been in the content guidelines since forever. The explanation is in the content guidelines. Now, why this rule wasn't enforced at the very beginning is anyone's guess, but I'm pretty sure it was because the site's team is small enough already and now that they've got some more time, they're starting to enforce the rules more stringently.

I don't know how to tell you this, but the readers genuinely aren't affected. If you really enjoy those novels so much, surely you would remember their names, right? You can just search them up on NovelUpdates and they're there, still waiting for you. The only group of people this adversely affects are the "translators" who are stealing people's work and profiting off it.

And for the record, if anyone here wants help finding a translated novel, I'm fine with helping so long as it exists.

Authors are all varying degrees of monsters with god complexes.

Yeah. I'm the god of poverty.

 

[LewdWhisperer]

I haven't caught up with this shit, and I apologize for tweaking out again. I don't have times to stalk forums or keep up with the latest "news." Or cliques or whoever the fuck. I published a new Filthy Degenerate smut story on thursday,(which is what I write) and apparently it's been banned because I translated it from somewhere. Which I fucking didn't! Which means some fucking retard, read through my first chapter and thought hmm. wow. Clearly some stolen shit. Sure if the emdashes in my stories aren't evident, I use large language models, to edit my fucking work. Because hey, I might just have I-adhd and can't fucking focus.

I'd report to the head admin, but what if it happens again? "manual reporting." Anyway, not gonna try and solve this until later, back to the real dreary world.

 

[Anonjohn20]

I use large language models

It might have been reported as AI rather than a translation. I will vouch for you, as there is no way AI can make a good futafic (I wish it could though).

 

[LewdWhisperer]

It might have been reported as AI rather than a translation. I will vouch for you, as there is no way AI can make a good futafic (I wish it could though).

I only use it to edit, because I can't afford a goddamn editor. If this is going to be recurring thing, I'm just gonna leave this site. cheers, john, let me get off the forum, before i continue to embarrass myself.

 

[L1aei]

It might have been reported as AI rather than a translation. I will vouch for you, as there is no way AI can make a good futafic (I wish it could though).

Again, this is why I'm saying kinky stuff is the fad of the future.

 

[tiaf]

I haven't caught up with this shit, and I apologize for tweaking out again. I don't have times to stalk forums or keep up with the latest "news." Or cliques or whoever the fuck. I published a new Filthy Degenerate smut story on thursday,(which is what I write) and apparently it's been banned because I translated it from somewhere. Which I fucking didn't! Which means some fucking retard, read through my first chapter and thought hmm. wow. Clearly some stolen shit. Sure if the emdashes in my stories aren't evident, I use large language models, to edit my fucking work. Because hey, I might just have I-adhd and can't fucking focus.

I'd report to the head admin, but what if it happens again? "manual reporting." Anyway, not gonna try and solve this until later, back to the real dreary world.

It might have been reported as AI rather than a translation. I will vouch for you, as there is no way AI can make a good futafic (I wish it could though).

Wouldn’t the over 50% smut rule be more likely the reason? The ban applied to tl and too much smut without plot.

 

[LewdWhisperer]

Wouldn’t the over 50% smut rule be more likely the reason? The ban applied to tl and too much smut without plot.

There wasn't a single super explicit mention of a genital or sex, was the first chapter too. Guess I'm just collateral damage.

 

[Shiriru_B]

yeah. you must mean by appeal... "go to the bottom of the page, and use the email helpfully provided".

right. When I first posted it, I must have gotten labeled as a "translation". Because I was no rankings, updates not showing, etc.
I now have since learned a new vocabulary word. which is of course "shadowbanned". Which is a lovely portmanteau, by the way. Nice euphemism. Actually, several users found my "shadowbanned (not a) translation" and its actually one of my more successful works. I got real fan mail and everything.

but be that as it may. Weeks ago I "appealed". another euphemism for use the(same) email and hear nothing for weeks. Today, the nuking (404-ing) of the shadowbanned "translations" went through. I honestly don't hold high hopes for using the helpful email this time around, either. I mean, I didn't get any response last time I emailed that email link.

and what is a "gray user". is that a euphemism for a bot? I thought decaded was a real person. (that's who messaged that my work was "translation"-ed. and it was like talking to the wrong person on the phone.)

decaded said: However, if you posted for someone else, I can see why it was taken down. It wasn't yours, even if you have "an arrangement" with the original author.

which... was, where did that come from. that's like a quote from some other conversation decaded is having with someone else?

decaded said: What I say has no meaning at all, after all. (and said "I'm a gray user".)

I guess decaded is a bot or something? automated? the conversation made no sense half the time.

Idk what a gray user is but what I can say is Decaded isn't a bot, I'm pretty sure they were just operating at 10% brain power and were just really tired because they did say they were going to go to sleep as soon as they finished talking to a couple of other people during the translations ban.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Idk what a gray user is but what I can say is Decaded isn't a bot, I'm pretty sure they were just operating at 10% brain power and were just really tired because they did say they were going to go to sleep as soon as they finished talking to a couple of other people during the translations ban.

I actually typed briefly with decaded in another thread. I learned another new vocabulary word. apparently, a "gray user" is a regular forum member, IE not staff. Yet obviously some of them are inner circle and help out. This, seems to be a "gray user". I get an image in my head of I hang out with my buddy at his job working. I end up carrying stuff around with him. If he wants me to take orders at the counter for a big holiday rush there? I'm a "gray user".

decaded said I got the right idea. But they all do a skype call when done working, strip naked, and smear goat's blood all over and chant. he said its a "team building exercise". I'm gonna see if my buddy and his co-workers want to implement this technique.

 

[tiaf]

There wasn't a single super explicit mention of a genital or sex, was the first chapter too. Guess I'm just collateral damage.

Promote as filthy degenerate smut but deliver no nekid!! That’s the reason, you gave readers hope just to break their fragile heart.

 

[Anonjohn20]

Promote as filthy degenerate smut but deliver no nekid!! That’s the reason, you gave readers hope just to break their fragile heart.

I have had this happen to me in SmutHub twice. Please give us the filth.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

I haven't caught up with this shit, and I apologize for tweaking out again. I don't have times to stalk forums or keep up with the latest "news." Or cliques or whoever the fuck. I published a new Filthy Degenerate smut story on thursday,(which is what I write) and apparently it's been banned because I translated it from somewhere. Which I fucking didn't! Which means some fucking retard, read through my first chapter and thought hmm. wow. Clearly some stolen shit. Sure if the emdashes in my stories aren't evident, I use large language models, to edit my fucking work. Because hey, I might just have I-adhd and can't fucking focus.

I'd report to the head admin, but what if it happens again? "manual reporting." Anyway, not gonna try and solve this until later, back to the real dreary world.

calm down. I been there, I done that, I got the T-shirt.

here's the plot line.
because your novel 404'd at the same time the translators poof-ed. Because you saw a post on your page that said "translators are getting zapped". That was a sort of "form message".
something like 20 or more smut's were zapped. (mine was one, welcome to the club)
theoretically, some staff member is supposed to read all of them and make a case by case determination.

I'm naturally hopeful but not placing bets on the outcome either.
my crystal ball says, your smut is in that list.
Heck. I wondered why my smut was not visible on updates or rankings.
I emailed many times, no response. that was weeks and weeks ago.
your mileage may vary.

apparently, "smut-hub" is supposed to be a tad less smutty.
who knew.

 

[Anonjohn20]

Wouldn’t the over 50% smut rule be more likely the reason? The ban applied to tl and too much smut without plot.

1. Her story did have a plot

2. AI stories were also targeted; all the rules were enforced.

EDIT: I'm not saying her story was written by AI, but people who write their own stories and then have AI fix the grammar are also sometimes accused of being AI.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

I have had this happen to me in SmutHub twice. Please give us the filth.

I delivered the naughty, trust me.
now my novel is in book jail.
paying the price, for what i did.
poor thing.
its cold and lonely. being read by someone that doesn't apopreciate it like my fan mail reader did.
it doesn't know why things are like this.
its not bad, its just written that way.
please, send it home.
(puppy dog eyes)

 

[FYOCENSORSHIP]

If you're defending English translations being taken down when they were uploaded by the authors, you are a racist :) Please internalize that and become better people instead of gatekeeping author's stories. This whole site disgusts me, no real ramifications when the reddit-level moderators go psycho. If anyone says you shouldn't be posting, call them out for what they are. RACIST.

 

[Nolff]

as a reader this has been horrible. u wanna ban translations alr no problem u have it in the rules that s fair, as a reader i m not bored enough to go to chinese or korean net to check if one of my favourite stories is actually a translation, period. some selfproclaimed justice warrior wanna do it? cool.
at the least i d expect a proper prompt when going to any of the removed content, i mean i saw ur post about how to indentify those...u had the time to do such a info dumb but were too lazy to make proper prompts to contain a reason and a link to the original for the content removed?
wtf is wrong with u?
edit: removed the quote marks from translations since they seem to have caused misunderstandings
note: it seems some fictions have been hit that r not translations, but since there s no explanation for the ban i guess it might not have been banned for being a translation, another argument for giving us readers and also authors a prompt for the ban

Brother, there are so many translated works. You want us to link them all to people?

Motherf*cker. That's just like telling people to collect bad eggs from the entire world.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

If you're defending English translations being taken down when they were uploaded by the authors, you are a racist :) Please internalize that and become better people instead of gatekeeping author's stories. This whole site disgusts me, no real ramifications when the reddit-level moderators go psycho. If anyone says you shouldn't be posting, call them out for what they are. RACIST.

sure then I am a racist.

Dozens of other places that are literally meant for those works, but whatever, y'all wanted to come in here with your AI-translated/generated crap with 5 different payment methods to suck money out of more readers.

If I am a racist, then you are all predators with no appreciation for writing at all, just side hustles.

Generalization is great, right?

 

[Nolff]

If you're defending English translations being taken down when they were uploaded by the authors, you are a racist :) Please internalize that and become better people instead of gatekeeping author's stories. This whole site disgusts me, no real ramifications when the reddit-level moderators go psycho. If anyone says you shouldn't be posting, call them out for what they are. RACIST.

Bro, there are so many chinese fics that got translated to English here, and they have lots of readers. If they're allowed to have the exposure to be on the trending lists, then what about fics that aren't translated? Those good fics that needs attention, how're they gonna flourish? Hm? And are you telling me to kill someone's creativity?

And also, if you're really looking for translated works here still, then go to Novel Updates first. There, you can find the links to your fics that leads to this site.

Voila, everyone wins, no?

Or are you just mad you don't have the convenience of finding a translated work of fics that you loved?