Adventurer's Guild Adventurer's Guild - OOC Room

[Epsil]

That's why the thread have to state that all and information could be fake and the player have to ask poster whether its real or not.

Though the old belief can be both fake and true at the same time lol

The thread is for the character mostly, not all players read the quest reports, specially the characters wouldn't know a thing. A source of information equal to all characters and not just in one story is the idea.

So A Gossip Board?

 

[Nahrenne]

I guess it kind of works. But what stops them from hiring bodyguards themselves to head there.

They use the AG to hire bodyguards to begin with.
*points at the bodyguard quest*
*points at Rosenthal hiring bodyguards from AG*
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X

 

[Epsil]

They use the AG to hire bodyguards to begin with.
*points at the bodyguard quest*
*points at Rosenthal hiring bodyguards from AG*
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X

So No Guild?

 

[GDLiZy]

Oh, btw, about the whole Fuyu Machi thing:

• People do the painting quest for Lord Eugene Rosenthal.
• Lord Rosenthal does an art exhibition that shows the beauty of FM to the nobles and rich people in SC.
• Nobles and rich people want to see the place in person.
• Nobles and rich people invest in contacting their otherworld governments to help aid the FM people in battling against the Oni's.
• Nobles and rich people establish negotiations with FM leaders, saying they're willing to send reinforcements if they can use FM as a resort location.
• Set up a holiday/tourist industry.
• Quests for AG members will be to hold back oni's, hunt local wildlife and resources, work as bodyguards/security for the nobles/rich people holidaying in FM - since I imagine the locals wouldn't be willing since they're reclusive and xenophobic.
• Escort quests for nobles and rich people travelling to and from FM will also be established due to this, too.

What do people think?
No?
Crap idea?
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X

Either rich people have too much money to spend, or this wouldn't happen. I faintly remember that Scribel City is quite poor...

 

[Siostar]

So A Gossip Board?

Yeah~ something like that but the stuff can only be heard by people and wouldn't be post on a board, game wise

 

[Epsil]

Yeah~ something like that but the stuff can only be heard by people and wouldn't be post on a board, game wise

Sounds pretty ok.

 

[ohko]

So should we deal with the slime hoard first then do Fuyu Machi?

I believe this is the simplest way. I believe setting up a board even earlier could be possible if the Shogun sent mail doing the lizardman thing saying: "We really like the Adventurer's Guild model -- so can you help up set up our own guild? We'll pay for everything, but let's share quests."

Look lets try to think of a way that doesn't require hundreds of oni marching onwards to the city. Maybe trade or technology or something along those lines. Maybe there's a resource the guild isn't knowledgeable about. That they could use, I don't know. We have close to no knowledge about the field outside a few stray reports and the freeplay stuff. Which is why I structured the current quests on the Fuyu board that way.

To find a way or reason to build an branch there. I'll lower the requirements for the quest themselves if there is interest for it. But, for now I need more information to try build an actual board around.

Bochi has been working on a quest board here.

Honestly, I prefer this too. I think there are a lot ways to creatively assemble a quest board in Fuyu Machi without depending on oni attacking Scribel city. Besides...

That kinda works, but if it's too much damage I doubt we'd have the resources to help Fuyu Machi, with the repairing and recuperating.

@Bochi I honestly don't think that the IC characters would react the way that you want. The natural reaction is for Scribel to concentrate defenses in Scribel, and AG would contact shogun to plan a joint Oni Mountain PQ raid. There's no reason whatsoever why Scribel should aid in Fuyu Machi's defense when the eventual goal is for both sides to attack the Oni Mountain. The logical thing to do is for Scribel to attack from the north and Fuyu from the south.

Or we could have the oni demolish the slime horde on their way to attack the city, which would result in a short raid or no raid at all, since the oni are only there to make a big mess before leaving quickly. Like, I think we should disperse with the notion that 'Just because a region is set as E rank OOC, doesn't mean that D or C rank monsters can't attack it.' That's not how it works irl, and strictly keeping to it when it otherwise makes sense would just be plot armour.

So my response to this is that AG is made up of many players in a shared world. I'm willing to consider something that many people find fun and popular -- and if it's something that lots of people want to do -- but if it's only one person who really wants an oni raid on Scribel... It would kind of be like Reciful randomly tossing a tentacle monster causing mass destruction in Scribel.

Besides, I think it's important to leave the region open for new players to join and explore. If there's a prolonged oni raid on Scribel, which is the main area where all the new players all, I think it negatively impacts their experience.

Again, I'm willing to consider it if most players want to go ahead with it. But just one or two players -- no, I just don't agree.

While we're on this topic, I would also like to put forth the suggestion that older players are allowed to make non-level 1 characters when they want to make new characters. I get that it makes sense OOC to start from level 1, but grinding 1 character to A rank alone is a pain and takes forever, not to mention 3 or 4. So I suggest the alternative where---

E.g. Someone kills off their level 7 rank E character, and they get to start off with a new character who can be level 1-7. Just without the rank, so the new character will have to redo the Rank E exam, but keeps the level. This would also reward players who've been around longer and want to play from a fresh perspective without having to restrict themselves to a completely greenhorn character.

There was a proposal earlier about EXP or level splitting.

The way this works is that if you kill off your level 7 rank E character, you can create a new character with up to half the EXP.

You can also do this with living characters. For instance, you can drop 500 EXP on your highest character to create a new character with 250 EXP.

I don't agree with players being able to start with higher level characters without some kind of EXP tradeoff, because IMO the levels are reflective of how much you've been writing. If you have 3x B rank characters, you better have written as much as what's worth 3x B rank characters.

I feel like the slime horde should still happen even if its in a lower number since 3 people already planned that event, and it'd be bad to cancel it via Oni attack without at least consulting with them first. Other than that a one off Oni Attack sounds fun! It kinda forces people to acknowledge their existence and thus the existence of Fuyu Machi!

Absolutely. IMO slime raid had a lot more players invested in it than Fuyu Machi.

How about we use the Slime Raid as an IC reason to explain why the Oni managed to cause a lot of destruction in Scribel? Since the defenders were exhausted from just finishing off the last of the slimes, so the Oni were able to break through much easier and cause more casualties than they usually would have.

I'm still of the view that you need to get community approval before causing any degree of mass destruction in Scribel for any reason. This isn't something that players should be loosely just writing into existence unilaterally.

Honestly, I think the number of Fuyu Exploration quests already exceed the number of expansion quests done in any other regions. The number of freestyle threads as well.

Well... the lizardmen region had almost 11 exploration quests conducted by 8 different players. It had a strong diversity of content that was good for synthesizing.

If I'm to be frank, I think the current state with Fuyu Machi is that it feels very much like @Bochi's personal region? It's very difficult for many people to jump in because it feels like @Bochi personally plays all of the important NPC's in the region (including that oni girl), hence we can't do anything out of fear of messing with a "canon" of content that is already arising.

I've actually been really hesitant to write quests for Fuyu Machi because I'm hesitant to add quests that conflicts with @Bochi's personal vision for the region?

Except that when you consider it, the quest would be to "Annihilate All Oni on the mountain", and that'll pit adventurers against C ranked threats who are just as mobile, if not more, than humans.

So Fuyu's main goal would be to garner as much manpower as possible.

I mean... I spoke about this before... but IMO that is a very dull quest board. It feels more like a short-term custom quest chain than a prolonged regional quest that is meant to stay up unresolved for a long time (like Gelderholm is).

The setting just doesn't feel... colorful.

Like I really like Fuyu Machi, and I think one of its major appeals is the oriental flavor. Consequently, I think it's better to spend time thinking of a regional plot that is really dedicated to showing off the setting and its strengths. For example, I just think it's better to have a plot like: "Oni can disguise themselves as humans/beastmen, therefore they stalk the night at Fuyu Machi and murder beastmen" -- and instead focus the plot from the role of policemen detectives trying to figure out which people are Oni and disguise and slay them.

Taking the plot to the oni mountain... IMO it simply plays against Fuyu Machi's appeal as a region.

Too troublesome!

It's not the question of what the AG wants, it's the question of what they have to lose if Fuyu cannot keep the Oni in check. And the post-raid damage will serve as a pretty good example

I dunno, I just think that there are definitely more creative ways to approach Fuyu Machi besides from doing the mass army warfare thing.

So let get is straight, correct me and fill in the blanks

Fuyu was a perfectly secured, self sufficient village

for some reason the barrier fell and along with it the seal to the Forbidden so and so

Now they need help to fight the oni that came out

BUT the shogun doen't want help, coz shogun is mistrustful

Adventurers was hopping Scri Ag want something from Fuyu and wil bend over backwards and offer men in exchange for WHAT?

Fuyu was hoping ScriAg would offer men in exchange for holding off the oni, coz it everyone problem? but Scri Ag got other problems

While this was happening Scri Ag is stuck with the horde and need men themselves, and cant help Fuyu

Lizzy men came a long want to ally with Scri man shortage filled.

Fuyu left with nadda

We will let Fuyu burn? Is the whats happening?

No, I believes @Bochi's vision is that Fuyu is perfectly strong enough to defend itself (and is totally self-sufficient in all matters of economy), however they are not strong enough to eliminate the problem (attacking the Oni).

Fuyu Machi was to be introduced as the next high ranking region but well. I just feel people aren't all that interested IC in it other than Haxa.

I believe the region can be written in a way that seems interesting, but that depends on how the quest board is assembled.

I just don't think Oni warfare is the best choice to maintain player's interest in the region.

I wanna open a rumor zone, a place we can post fake and real rumors alike.

There may be classification on the rumors and the poster have to write where you can hear the rumors.

Let's start with General Rumors, they don't mention specific names of people. And it could be about anything from "the new dish available in the tavern" to "a war will break out in the human empire". Those rumors can be forgotten or get updated from the old ones.

The next one will be for the Well-Known aka rumors for NPC and PC. It's require the character is well-known in a specific area/region, theirs rumors will can be different from place to place. After all, the people who knows them are different as well.

Then we have the Legends or Old Belief, stories which each local people or member of a group knows, something that could be related on how it came to be or an old local belief of what could bring you good or bad fortune.

I like this idea!

 

[ohko]

Just to toss ideas of how to have a D rank region without necessarily making it a military region:

Example: Pretend that Oni preferentially eat powerful individuals, and they can absorb some of that power when eaten. They stalk the night of Fuyu Machi like vampires and they preferentially attack the strongest individuals. This places many VIPs in danger, and players themselves are likely to get randomly attacked in the middle of the night. Meanwhile, the majority of the city can still function like normal.

Example: Oni can pull off a perfect human disguise and have infiltrated all part's of Fuyu's government for greater #plot purposes. Conduct a witch hunt to figure out which beastmen are secretly oni and try to purge Fuyu's government from these disguised oni agents. However, if you're not careful, you might end up with a knife plunged in your back.

Example: Actually, the Oni are the good guys, and Fuyu is evil. Help the Oni from being persecuted by the evil Shogun and Miko

I pulled these two out of my head randomly... but they're examples.

 

[Siostar]

I like this idea!

Me too~
We could even have an information group who pays for a confirmation of a rumor, then the players have to pay for that info or so I like to say, but it might not be a good idea after all.

 

[Epsil]

Me too~
We could even have an information group who pays for a confirmation of a rumor, then the players have to pay for that info or so I like to say, but it might not be a good idea after all.

We need 3 people to make the thread. I'm one, your one. Now we need 1 more person

 

[ohko]

As for way's to set up a quest board, IMO it's really easy.

Step 1: Fuyu Machi asks Scribel for help.

Step 2: Fuyu Machi offers to give Scribel something -- for instance, the miko promises to make 500 talismans per year to make a weak barrier around scribel.

Step 3: Profit.

I realize there's a temptation to make the beastmen proud and everything, but if Step 1 never happens, and the Shogun/Miko never sends a letter saying, "Please help us..." It's really weird for Scribel to go ahead and say: "Hey, I know you didn't ask, but how about I help you?"

 

[GDLiZy]

We need 3 people to make the thread. I'm one, your one. Now we need 1 more person

Count me in!

 

[Epsil]

@Siostar now you can make the thread!

 

[Siostar]

@Siostar now you can make the thread!

Can't do it now

 

[GDLiZy]

@Siostar now you can make the thread!

We should have @GM make it so that it would be official for AG, else others would not know, and it would be lost in no time.

 

[Epsil]

We should have @GM make it so that it would be official for AG, else others would not know, and it would be lost in no time.

Sure, but it's @Siostar 's idea so it should be their choice.

 

[Epsil]

Reciful randomly tossing a tentacle monster causing mass destruction in Scribel.

@Reciful Don't be getting any weird ideas now

 

[Siostar]

I don't mind either way, tho I want to write the stuff that's going to be on the main post.

 

[Siostar]

We should have @GM make it so that it would be official for AG, else others would not know, and it would be lost in no time.

Sure, but it's @Siostar 's idea so it should be their choice.

I don't mind either way, tho I want to write the stuff that's going to be on the main post.

Forgot to quote lol

 

[Bochi]

I believe this is the simplest way. I believe setting up a board even earlier could be possible if the Shogun sent mail doing the lizardman thing saying: "We really like the Adventurer's Guild model -- so can you help up set up our own guild? We'll pay for everything, but let's share quests."

Bochi has been working on a quest board here.

Honestly, I prefer this too. I think there are a lot ways to creatively assemble a quest board in Fuyu Machi without depending on oni attacking Scribel city. Besides...

@Bochi I honestly don't think that the IC characters would react the way that you want. The natural reaction is for Scribel to concentrate defenses in Scribel, and AG would contact shogun to plan a joint Oni Mountain PQ raid. There's no reason whatsoever why Scribel should aid in Fuyu Machi's defense when the eventual goal is for both sides to attack the Oni Mountain. The logical thing to do is for Scribel to attack from the north and Fuyu from the south.

So my response to this is that AG is made up of many players in a shared world. I'm willing to consider something that many people find fun and popular -- and if it's something that lots of people want to do -- but if it's only one person who really wants an oni raid on Scribel... It would kind of be like Reciful randomly tossing a tentacle monster causing mass destruction in Scribel.

Besides, I think it's important to leave the region open for new players to join and explore. If there's a prolonged oni raid on Scribel, which is the main area where all the new players all, I think it negatively impacts their experience.

Again, I'm willing to consider it if most players want to go ahead with it. But just one or two players -- no, I just don't agree.

There was a proposal earlier about EXP or level splitting.

The way this works is that if you kill off your level 7 rank E character, you can create a new character with up to half the EXP.

You can also do this with living characters. For instance, you can drop 500 EXP on your highest character to create a new character with 250 EXP.

I don't agree with players being able to start with higher level characters without some kind of EXP tradeoff, because IMO the levels are reflective of how much you've been writing. If you have 3x B rank characters, you better have written as much as what's worth 3x B rank characters.

Absolutely. IMO slime raid had a lot more players invested in it than Fuyu Machi.

I'm still of the view that you need to get community approval before causing any degree of mass destruction in Scribel for any reason. This isn't something that players should be loosely just writing into existence unilaterally.

Well... the lizardmen region had almost 11 exploration quests conducted by 8 different players. It had a strong diversity of content that was good for synthesizing.

If I'm to be frank, I think the current state with Fuyu Machi is that it feels very much like @Bochi's personal region? It's very difficult for many people to jump in because it feels like @Bochi personally plays all of the important NPC's in the region (including that oni girl), hence we can't do anything out of fear of messing with a "canon" of content that is already arising.

I've actually been really hesitant to write quests for Fuyu Machi because I'm hesitant to add quests that conflicts with @Bochi's personal vision for the region?


I mean... I spoke about this before... but IMO that is a very dull quest board. It feels more like a short-term custom quest chain than a prolonged regional quest that is meant to stay up unresolved for a long time (like Gelderholm is).

The setting just doesn't feel... colorful.

Like I really like Fuyu Machi, and I think one of its major appeals is the oriental flavor. Consequently, I think it's better to spend time thinking of a regional plot that is really dedicated to showing off the setting and its strengths. For example, I just think it's better to have a plot like: "Oni can disguise themselves as humans/beastmen, therefore they stalk the night at Fuyu Machi and murder beastmen" -- and instead focus the plot from the role of policemen detectives trying to figure out which people are Oni and disguise and slay them.

Taking the plot to the oni mountain... IMO it simply plays against Fuyu Machi's appeal as a region.


I dunno, I just think that there are definitely more creative ways to approach Fuyu Machi besides from doing the mass army warfare thing.

No, I believes @Bochi's vision is that Fuyu is perfectly strong enough to defend itself (and is totally self-sufficient in all matters of economy), however they are not strong enough to eliminate the problem (attacking the Oni).


I believe the region can be written in a way that seems interesting, but that depends on how the quest board is assembled.

I just don't think Oni warfare is the best choice to maintain player's interest in the region.

I like this idea!

Yeah, no problem. Go ahead.

I'm gonna take a break.