I'd like some feedback on my philosophical and slice-of-life story.

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Hello! This is my first series: How to Gaslight YHWH. I’ve been working on it for over a year before posting it.
The debate elements in the story might feel unfamiliar or even dry to many people, so for now, I've temporarily toned down those heavy elements a bit in the early chapters.
I'd like to know what you think about the realism of the characters, the multi-POV storytelling approach, and so on...

Here's the link, thank you:
 
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I don't know enough about Jesus's dad or student councils to decide if the characters are realistic or not. All I know is I like how the POV switch happen. You use the multi-POV storytelling, but one chapter is one POV. This help reduce confusion.
 

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Thank you for reading.
As for "realistic", what I mean is that the characters shouldn't act in an overly dramatic way, or just to serve the plot.
As for the academic knowledge part, I guess I was off the mark. It's true that not every reader has academic knowledge, and that's perfectly fine. However, I think it's not a good idea to just keep that knowledge locked away like a gatekeeper.
So I'm planning to add a note at the bottom of any chapter with difficult concepts (something like "Mari's Notes for Mortals"). It'll be written in Mari's voice.
I think that would be pretty cool; this work would turn into a form of edutainment, like Dr. Stone but for philosophy.
Anyway, thank you for taking the time to read this.
 
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After reading 2.5 chapters, I’ll be honest, dude. Your chapters have big ambition, but the execution still has weaknesses in narrative structure. Well, let’s talk about the strengths of your narrative:

I cracked one eye open to glare at the clock. The digits flipped from 5:59 to 6:00.

Seraphim. Glorified alarm clocks whose only real talent is aggressive bootlicking.

I stretched my arms wide, spine popping in protest, then dragged myself out of bed. Barefoot, I walked over and shoved the sliding glass window open. The salty sea breeze slapped my face, carrying the raw scent of fish and ship engine oil from the docks below. Dawn had finally broken. The orange-pink sunlight stretched across the rippling water like a billion scattered shards of glass.

First, your chapters are quite immersive. The narrative uses fairly rich sensory details, making it easier for readers to enter the world of the story. I liked how you described the beach atmosphere at the beginning of chapter 1.

Second, your narrative also provides good foreshadowing at the start of chapter 1. Opening the scene with the appearance of a mysterious entity suggests that this is not just an ordinary school story. I don’t know where that mystery is going, but it’s a good hook to spark readers’ curiosity from the very beginning.

Now, let’s talk about the weaknesses of your narrative:

First, your narrative has issues with POV transition:

The tiny rented apartment sat precariously on the hillside, overlooking the harbor. Outside, the world was still drowning in the pre-dawn gloom. On the nightstand, the digital clock blinked: 5:59.

A drawn-out ship's horn groaned in the distance. The sound bled through the soundproof glass, sending a faint ripple across the water in my bedside cup. The morning air was dead still, crisp, and frigid—classic Kyūshū coast.

Then, the pristine plaster ceiling ripped open.

No debris, no dust. Just a jagged spatial fissure, black as spilled ink on a blank canvas. From that bottomless void, an entity descended.

It was a pure geometric form of thermal violence. A blinding white flame, swirling into an inverted cone like the exhaust plume of a supersonic jet. No eyes. No mouth. Absolutely devoid of humanity.

As it hovered above the wooden floor, a sterilizing aura pulsed outward. Every stray mosquito, dust mite, and airborne mold spore in the room was instantly vaporized into subatomic nothingness. Total biological incineration. Yet, bizarrely, the room temperature didn't spike a single degree. The morning chill remained entirely intact, wrapping itself around that absolute destruction.

The entity trembled, forcing the air particles into a violent vibration to produce a sound:

「QADOSH!」

「QADOSH!」

「QADOSH!」


That sacred roar shattered the silence, piercing the eardrums of the girl curled up beneath the duvet, violently dragging Amano Mari out of her dream.

「Tetsu? Oh, wait... right, the alarm.」

The flame roared again. 「Adonai Tzva'ot, m'lo khol ha'aretz k'vodo!」

「Alright, alright, I'm up.」
My voice was heavy with sleep. With my eyes still glued shut, I lazily slipped my left hand out from under the blanket and flicked my wrist at the ceiling.

At the beginning of Chapter 1, when the mysterious entity appears, the POV uses objective third POV. Then it switches to first POV when the character wakes up. You need to provide a scene break to separate these two scenes so the POV feels more disciplined.

Excited murmurs instantly broke out. Beside me, Riku was already pulling up Google Maps on his glasses, his fingers dancing in the air like a concert pianist. Mari cupped her chin, her eyes sparkling with anticipation.

But Akari-sensei's smile vanished. She held up a single finger. 「Bad news: The destination is...」

The class held its breath.

「...Kyōto.」

It was as if all the oxygen had been vacuumed out of the room.

In addition, in chapter 2, I noticed that the first POV tends to shift into an omniscient third POV when the teacher makes an announcement, where the narrator suddenly describes the classroom objectively like an outside observer. Even though the narrator is sitting in one of the seats in the classroom. It’s not realistic for MC to observe the entire class holding their breath when he is waiting for the teacher’s announcement.

Remember, in first POV, the narration is subjective, you can only describe what MC observes. You can't describe the classroom objectively when MC is focused on the teacher. You need to be more disciplined in your implementation of POV.

Second, your characters are hard to distinguish. I don’t mind you using multiple POVs. But you need to understand... multiple POV is good, but difficult to implement consistently. The biggest challenge is giving each POV an authentic voice. If you have three characters, you need to create three unique voices that represent three individuals, complete with identity, background, and personality.

An introvert’s voice is different from an extrovert’s. A girl’s voice is different from a boy’s. A student’s voice is different from a teacher’s. Can you design authentic voices that match your characterizations?

Honestly, I find it hard to distinguish your characters’ voices. You do switch POVs with labels like “this is Mari’s POV,” “this is Tetsuya’s POV,” etc, but their voices feel similar. If I removed the name labels, I would assume they are the same person.

The problem is, your narrative doesn’t give enough room for character introduction. You need to understand... in first POV, the reader’s perception aligns with the narrator’s characterization. When you switch POVs in the next chapter, readers need to reset their perception of the character. As a result, readers may lose focus and become confused. If you want to maintain first POV, you need to give more space for character introduction.

But before that, you need to think about your character design. You need to design each character in detail, including personality, identity, background, and speaking style. Then implement that design into the POV.

Assuming you’re using first POV, I estimate you would need at least ~5 chapters at your current pace just to build up proper introductions for each character. It’s complex and requires high discipline in handling character POV.

Third, the dialogue in the chapters I read tends to be expository... dialogue that explains plot, character, and worldbuilding.

Tetsu didn't even try to dodge my pinch. His hands stayed buried in his pockets, his tone flat. 「Ah, yes. Art. The kind of art that makes your boyfriend question his eyesight first thing in the morning. Truly a masterpiece. Are we going to school now, or are you planning to stand here and summon a Cherub to bodyguard your fragile ego?」

Well, maybe it’s too early to conclude that. But the way you write long dialogues with detailed explanations doesn’t feel natural. It feels more like the author explaining the story rather than organic conversations between characters.

Fourth, you mentioned that your fiction is philosophical?

Toothbrush time. It's Friday. I can already bet my life Yuria is going to hit me with her favorite existential roast today: "Hey Mari, according to Pantheism… if the entire universe is you, does that mean you're just autistic on a cosmic scale?" I am so done with her.

Unfortunately, the way the philosophy is delivered still feels pretentious. I came across a joke about pantheism, but the delivery was still too abstract. Your joke can only be understood by people who have at least studied philosophy, and it’s not friendly to general readers.

The problem is, most web novel readers are casual readers. Very few of them truly understand philosophy. If you throw in philosophical jokes, casual readers will just scratch their heads instead of smiling. You need to ground philosophical ideas in your narrative. That’s not easy: how do you simplify abstract philosophy into something concrete in the story without confusing readers?

You don’t just need to understand philosophy, you also need the skill to communicate it to a general audience. Try reading "Sophie’s World". It’s a masterpiece of philosophical storytelling.

Finally, I think you have a fairly original idea, packaging philosophy into a story. If you can execute it well, your fiction could become a “Sophie’s World” version of the high school sol genre. But to get there, you still have a mountain to climb.

Well, that’s my feedback.

Regards. :blob_melt:
 
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Hello! This is my first series: How to Gaslight YHWH. I’ve been working on it for over a year before posting it.
The debate elements in the story might feel unfamiliar or even dry to many people, so for now, I've temporarily toned down those heavy elements a bit in the early chapters.
I'd like to know what you think about the realism of the characters, the multi-POV storytelling approach, and so on...
Here's the link, thank you: How to Gaslight YHWH | Scribble Hub
Hey you! Yes you!

Why you only reply to the one short feedback from rosica and ignored the detailed feedback eldoria gave to you?!

That's like an hour of her time she willing to give to you while she doesnt want to give it to me anymore!

Don't be ungrateful and say thank you to her! :blob_thor:
 

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Holy

First of all, thank you so much for such detailed feedback.

Yeah, you're absolutely right about almost all that—you really looked into the details, and I hadn't even noticed. I went back and made the basic fixes.

As for distinguishing the characters' POVs:

Second, your characters are hard to distinguish. I don’t mind you using multiple POVs. But you need to understand... multiple POV is good, but difficult to implement consistently. The biggest challenge is giving each POV an authentic voice. If you have three characters, you need to create three unique voices that represent three individuals, complete with identity, background, and personality.

Actually, I still think my approach is a bit more realistic. Because I'm not using the POVs of people who are completely opposite; they're a close-knit group of friends. In reality, close friends inevitably influence each other, and their speaking styles are certainly affected (becoming more similar). This is something I've observed in my own group of friends in real life, not just in fiction. It would be pretty unrealistic if people with vastly different personalities were in the same club and were close friends, wouldn't it?

The POVs of the four main characters still have some minor differences, mainly in how they perceive the other three. Because for them: Knowledge is absolutely objective; they can only be subjective toward others, not toward knowledge. If I wrote something like "Character A views things through a theological lens, Character B through a scientific lens", the philosophical aspect would feel contrived. Since they're members of the Debate Club, they naturally tend to adopt a more objective perspective.

Later on, in Chapter 51 (yes, I already have over 60 chapters ready), the POV shifts to an introverted character outside the group, and the storytelling style changes quite distinctly.

Unfortunately, the way the philosophy is delivered still feels pretentious. I came across a joke about pantheism, but the delivery was still too abstract. Your joke can only be understood by people who have at least studied philosophy, and it’s not friendly to general readers.

You're quite right about this, just as I responded to Rosica in the section above. I've added "Mari's Note for Mortals" sections at the end of a few chapters to provide a brief (and fun) explanation. If you haven't seen them yet, it's because you're reading outdated versions. You can read them again or not—it's up to you—but they're there.

I might not be able to weave philosophy into the story in an extremely "casual" way (and since this is within an academic club anyway), but I'll try my best to make it understandable, because as I've said, philosophy shouldn't be a gatekeeper.

And finally, thank you again for this incredibly detailed feedback; I might give Sophie's World a read as you recommended.

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Hey you! Yes you!

Why you only reply to the one short feedback from rosica and ignored the detailed feedback eldoria gave to you?!

That's like an hour of her time she willing to give to you while she doesnt want to give it to me anymore!

Don't be ungrateful and say thank you to her! :blob_thor:
Time zone exist...
And quite coincidentally, you mentioned it just as I woke up and was about to reply lol :blob_sleep:
 
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Hello! This is my first series: How to Gaslight YHWH. I’ve been working on it for over a year before posting it.
The debate elements in the story might feel unfamiliar or even dry to many people, so for now, I've temporarily toned down those heavy elements a bit in the early chapters.
I'd like to know what you think about the realism of the characters, the multi-POV storytelling approach, and so on...
Here's the link, thank you: How to Gaslight YHWH | Scribble Hub
Not gonna lie, currently on chapter 3 and still feeling the momentum. Might just be because I'm a sucker for classic LNs that focus on characters and religions/beliefs. So far, I'm enjoying the vibes and the character voices. It's subtle, but they're definitely different, while at the same time being close enough that it mimics a real friend group.

I guess, if I had to make one complaint, it'd be the fun explanations at the end (mostly the AR glasses one). I'm the type of reader who'd much rather like to figure something out on my own. I felt kinda happy about piecing together the whole future gimmick, just for you to spell it out at the end anyway. Of course, it's not a dealbreaker. Plus, it does help casual readers.

All in all, it feels like I'm reading one of the light novels on my shelf.:blob_popcorn:
 

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Not gonna lie, currently on chapter 3 and still feeling the momentum. Might just be because I'm a sucker for classic LNs that focus on characters and religions/beliefs. So far, I'm enjoying the vibes and the character voices. It's subtle, but they're definitely different, while at the same time being close enough that it mimics a real friend group.

I guess, if I had to make one complaint, it'd be the fun explanations at the end (mostly the AR glasses one). I'm the type of reader who'd much rather like to figure something out on my own. I felt kinda happy about piecing together the whole future gimmick, just for you to spell it out at the end anyway. Of course, it's not a dealbreaker. Plus, it does help casual readers.

All in all, it feels like I'm reading one of the light novels on my shelf.:blob_popcorn:
Thanks. As for this project, I've actually rewritten it from scratch five times over the past year and a half.

And I'll definitely give your story a read too. Being part of this community is really fun—it's very lively (no empty flattery here).
 

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Hey you! Yes you!

Why you only reply to the one short feedback from rosica and ignored the detailed feedback eldoria gave to you?!

That's like an hour of her time she willing to give to you while she doesnt want to give it to me anymore!

Don't be ungrateful and say thank you to her! :blob_thor:
Because Eldoria is scary.
 

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Thanks. As for this project, I've actually rewritten it from scratch five times over the past year and a half.
Same with mine. Though, it looks like I'll have to do it once more to match the level of those around me.

And I'll definitely give your story a read too. Being part of this community is really fun—it's very lively (no empty flattery here).
Just make sure you tell me your honest thoughts. Your story is the kind that I draw most of my inspirations from so I'd probably learn the most from you.
 

Rosica

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For now, they seem to be hiding in the shadows.
Because they are.
 

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Because they are.
Sheesh, that's awful.

I won't sit here and act like I don't click on all my readers' profiles (don't judge me) but messaging them? Even worse, begging? Some people, man.
 
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