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Nahrenne

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How much money would you say Hejlikka and Julrik earn each is?
'-'
I'm asking cos I'm wondering if it's actually feasible that they both own houses...
...unless owning one doesn't mean you pay rent, since you own it yourself?
*doesn't know where she's going with this*
@w@

X
 

AliceShiki

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How much money would you say Hejlikka and Julrik earn each is?
'-'
I'm asking cos I'm wondering if it's actually feasible that they both own houses...
...unless owning one doesn't mean you pay rent, since you own it yourself?
*doesn't know where she's going with this*
@w@

X
This is really hard to answer, I mean... Math goes really out of hand if we try using the 2.5G/appraisal math, for example... So uhn... Maybe it's best if we try using quests instead. Assuming 1 quest/day, in particular.

I'd say they'd earn more than an unranked adventurer, but less than a D-ranked one for sure.

Perhaps the same per day as an E-ranked would work, I just dunno if you should use the low E-rank or high E-rank as standard.
 

Nahrenne

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This is really hard to answer, I mean... Math goes really out of hand if we try using the 2.5G/appraisal math, for example... So uhn... Maybe it's best if we try using quests instead. Assuming 1 quest/day, in particular.

I'd say they'd earn more than an unranked adventurer, but less than a D-ranked one for sure.

Perhaps the same per day as an E-ranked would work, I just dunno if you should use the low E-rank or high E-rank as standard.
Mm...
Well, thanks for answering and trying, at least.
(^-^)
I was struggling to come up with a wage for them, too...
I'll leave that on the back-burner for now until we have a better idea of the average wage for E-D rank adventurers is.

*huggles*


Oh, I hope the two birthdays went well!

X
 

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Mm...
Well, thanks for answering and trying, at least.
(^-^)
I was struggling to come up with a wage for them, too...
I'll leave that on the back-burner for now until we have a better idea of the average wage for E-D rank adventurers is.

*huggles*


Oh, I hope the two birthdays went well!

X
You can use these as references for later levels(Model 2):
Going to rescale gold rewards from quests.

For EXP:
  • Each quests should generally give 10 - 25% EXP necessary to level up to the next level.
  • Early quests (Under level 10) should lean towards a higher rate... around 20-25%
  • Later quests (Rank C+) should lean towards a lower rate... creeping down towards 15%
For Gold:
  • I'm shooting for an index point of potions costing 80G -- adventurers need to be able to afford potions.
  • Armor and weapons will generally more expensive (see prior discussions) to match a more realistic medieval price rate.
  • The formula I cam up with as follows:
    • REWARD = 8 + 2 * LEVEL ^ ( 3 / 2 )
    • The lower and higher bounds are taken by the square root of the mean (by poisson distribution std.dev)
Here is calculation table:
Level​
EXP​
ΔEXP​
10%ΔEXP​
15%ΔEXP​
20%ΔEXP​
25%ΔEXP​
$ LOW​
$ MED​
$ HIGH​
1​
0​
200​
20​
30​
40​
50​
7​
10​
13​
2​
200​
400​
40​
60​
80​
100​
10​
14​
17​
3​
600​
600​
60​
90​
120​
150​
14​
18​
23​
4​
1,200​
800​
80​
120​
160​
200​
19​
24​
29​
5​
2,000​
1,000​
100​
150​
200​
250​
25​
30​
36​
6​
3,000​
1,200​
120​
180​
240​
300​
31​
37​
44​
7​
4,200​
1,400​
140​
210​
280​
350​
38​
45​
52​
8​
5,600​
1,600​
160​
240​
320​
400​
46​
53​
61​
9​
7,200​
1,800​
180​
270​
360​
450​
54​
62​
70​
10​
9,000​
2,000​
200​
300​
400​
500​
63​
71​
80​
11​
11,000​
2,200​
220​
330​
440​
550​
72​
81​
90​
12​
13,200​
2,400​
240​
360​
480​
600​
82​
91​
101​
13​
15,600​
2,600​
260​
390​
520​
650​
92​
102​
112​
14​
18,200​
2,800​
280​
420​
560​
700​
102​
113​
123​
15​
21,000​
3,000​
300​
450​
600​
750​
113​
124​
135​
16​
24,000​
3,200​
320​
480​
640​
800​
124​
136​
148​
17​
27,200​
3,400​
340​
510​
680​
850​
136​
148​
160​
18​
30,600​
3,600​
360​
540​
720​
900​
148​
161​
173​
19​
34,200​
3,800​
380​
570​
760​
950​
160​
174​
187​
20​
38,000​
4,000​
400​
600​
800​
1000​
173​
187​
201​
21​
42,000​
4,200​
420​
630​
840​
1050​
186​
200​
215​
22​
46,200​
4,400​
440​
660​
880​
1100​
200​
214​
229​
23​
50,600​
4,600​
460​
690​
920​
1150​
213​
229​
244​
24​
55,200​
4,800​
480​
720​
960​
1200​
228​
243​
259​
25​
60,000​
5,000​
500​
750​
1000​
1250​
242​
258​
274​
26​
65,000​
5,200​
520​
780​
1040​
1300​
257​
273​
290​
27​
70,200​
5,400​
540​
810​
1080​
1350​
272​
289​
306​
28​
75,600​
5,600​
560​
840​
1120​
1400​
287​
304​
322​
29​
81,200​
5,800​
580​
870​
1160​
1450​
302​
320​
338​
30​
87,000​
6,000​
600​
900​
1200​
1500​
318​
337​
355​
31​
93,000​
6,200​
620​
930​
1240​
1550​
334​
353​
372​
32​
99,200​
6,400​
640​
960​
1280​
1600​
351​
370​
389​
33​
105,600​
6,600​
660​
990​
1320​
1650​
367​
387​
407​
34​
112,200​
6,800​
680​
1020​
1360​
1700​
384​
405​
425​
35​
119,000​
7,000​
700​
1050​
1400​
1750​
402​
422​
443​
36​
126,000​
7,200​
720​
1080​
1440​
1800​
419​
440​
461​
37​
133,200​
7,400​
740​
1110​
1480​
1850​
437​
458​
480​
38​
140,600​
7,600​
760​
1140​
1520​
1900​
455​
476​
498​
39​
148,200​
7,800​
780​
1170​
1560​
1950​
473​
495​
517​
40​
156,000​
8,000​
800​
1200​
1600​
2000​
491​
514​
537​
41​
164,000​
8,200​
820​
1230​
1640​
2050​
510​
533​
556​
42​
172,200​
8,400​
840​
1260​
1680​
2100​
529​
552​
576​
43​
180,600​
8,600​
860​
1290​
1720​
2150​
548​
572​
596​
44​
189,200​
8,800​
880​
1320​
1760​
2200​
567​
592​
616​
45​
198,000​
9,000​
900​
1350​
1800​
2250​
587​
612​
636​
46​
207,000​
9,200​
920​
1380​
1840​
2300​
607​
632​
657​
47​
216,200​
9,400​
940​
1410​
1880​
2350​
627​
652​
678​
48​
225,600​
9,600​
960​
1440​
1920​
2400​
647​
673​
699​
49​
235,200​
9,800​
980​
1470​
1960​
2450​
668​
694​
720​
50​
245,000​
10,000​
1000​
1500​
2000​
2500​
688​
715​
742​
51​
255,000​
10,200​
1020​
1530​
2040​
2550​
709​
736​
764​
52​
265,200​
10,400​
1040​
1560​
2080​
2600​
730​
758​
785​
53​
275,600​
10,600​
1060​
1590​
2120​
2650​
752​
780​
808​
54​
286,200​
10,800​
1080​
1620​
2160​
2700​
773​
802​
830​
55​
297,000​
11,000​
1100​
1650​
2200​
2750​
795​
824​
852​
56​
308,000​
11,200​
1120​
1680​
2240​
2800​
817​
846​
875​
57​
319,200​
11,400​
1140​
1710​
2280​
2850​
839​
869​
898​
58​
330,600​
11,600​
1160​
1740​
2320​
2900​
862​
891​
921​
59​
342,200​
11,800​
1180​
1770​
2360​
2950​
884​
914​
945​
60​
354,000​
+ + +

Alternately we could go with 9 + LEVEL ^ ( 3 / 2)
Level​
$LOW​
$MED​
$HIGH​
1​
7​
10​
13​
2​
8​
12​
15​
3​
10​
14​
18​
4​
13​
17​
21​
5​
16​
20​
25​
6​
19​
24​
29​
7​
22​
28​
33​
8​
26​
32​
37​
9​
30​
36​
42​
10​
34​
41​
47​
11​
39​
45​
52​
12​
43​
51​
58​
13​
48​
56​
63​
14​
54​
61​
69​
15​
59​
67​
75​
16​
64​
73​
82​
17​
70​
79​
88​
18​
76​
85​
95​
19​
82​
92​
101​
20​
89​
98​
108​
21​
95​
105​
115​
22​
102​
112​
123​
23​
108​
119​
130​
24​
115​
127​
138​
25​
122​
134​
146​
26​
130​
142​
153​
27​
137​
149​
162​
28​
145​
157​
170​
29​
152​
165​
178​
30​
160​
173​
186​
31​
168​
182​
195​
32​
176​
190​
204​
33​
184​
199​
213​
34​
193​
207​
222​
35​
201​
216​
231​
36​
210​
225​
240​
37​
219​
234​
249​
38​
228​
243​
259​
39​
237​
253​
268​
40​
246​
262​
278​
41​
255​
272​
288​
42​
264​
281​
298​
43​
274​
291​
308​
44​
284​
301​
318​
45​
293​
311​
329​
46​
303​
321​
339​
47​
313​
331​
349​
48​
323​
342​
360​
49​
333​
352​
371​
50​
344​
363​
382​
51​
354​
373​
393​
52​
364​
384​
404​
53​
375​
395​
415​
54​
386​
406​
426​
55​
396​
417​
437​
56​
407​
428​
449​
57​
418​
439​
460​
58​
429​
451​
472​
59​
441​
462​
484​
Mmmmmmmm, let me try splitting this into ranks.

Model 1 rewards:
  • Unranked: 7-29G
  • E-rank: 25-70G
  • D-rank: 63-123G
  • C-rank: 113-259G
  • B-rank: 242-517G
  • A-rank: 491-945G
Model 2 rewards:
  • Unranked: 7-21G
  • E-rank: 16-42G
  • D-rank: 34-69G
  • C-rank: 59-138G
  • B-rank: 122-268G
  • A-rank: 246-484G
Mmmmmmmmm... I feel like Model 1 scales too fast, getting 70G still at E-rank feels like too much to me tbh...

On the other hand, I like getting 30G while unranked I guess... Though on yet another hand, having basic unranked quests give so little gold might incentivize people making custom quests with bigger rewards, which isn't a bad thing.

I like Model 2 more tbh~
 

AliceShiki

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Mm...
Well, thanks for answering and trying, at least.
(^-^)
I was struggling to come up with a wage for them, too...
I'll leave that on the back-burner for now until we have a better idea of the average wage for E-D rank adventurers is.

*huggles*


Oh, I hope the two birthdays went well!

X
They did! But I was dead tired when I got home! xD
 

Nahrenne

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You can use these as references for later levels(Model 2):
So, a possible wage of about 30G a day each?
Or maybe 35G each?
Since it would be between E and D rank earnings?

Sounds feasible...
For 35G a day:
That means 1050G a month - roughly
Making it 12,600G-12,775G a year.
Taking 3650 off for daily living expenses:
8950G-9125G a year for actual income.
Taking off the 8000G yearly rent, that would leave them with a surplus of 950G-1125G every year for savings and other things.
'-'

For 30G a day:
That means 900G a month - roughly
Making it 10800G-10950G a year.
Taking 3650 off for daily living expenses:
7150G-7300G for actual income.
Meaning they wouldn't be able to afford a house each.
'-'

Have I calculated that wrong at all?

X
 

AliceShiki

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So, a possible wage of about 30G a day each?
Or maybe 35G each?
Since it would be between E and D rank earnings?

Sounds feasible...
For 35G a day:
That means 1050G a month - roughly
Making it 12,600G-12,775G a year.
Taking 3650 off for daily living expenses:
8950G-9125G a year for actual income.
Taking off the 8000G yearly rent, that would leave them with a surplus of 950G-1125G every year for savings and other things.
'-'

For 30G a day:
That means 900G a month - roughly
Making it 10800G-10950G a year.
Taking 3650 off for daily living expenses:
7150G-7300G for actual income.
Meaning they wouldn't be able to afford a house each.
'-'

Have I calculated that wrong at all?

X
Seems accurate to me. I'd say most people shouldn't be able to rent an entire house by themselves, so needing at least 35G/day to earn that seems like a good number to go by~
 

Nahrenne

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Seems accurate to me. I'd say most people shouldn't be able to rent an entire house by themselves, so needing at least 35G/day to earn that seems like a good number to go by~
\o/

Okay, then!

(^-^)

X
 

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Seems accurate to me. I'd say most people shouldn't be able to rent an entire house by themselves, so needing at least 35G/day to earn that seems like a good number to go by~
Eventually: People start partying together to buy/ rent a house together:
Good: Possible Rp choices with players in the houses.
 

AliceShiki

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All I'm seeing is we're gonna get less gold in the future :blob_shock:
Not really, Model 2 was a considerable improvement over what we were getting before~
Eventually: People start partying together to buy/ rent a house together:
Good: Possible Rp choices with players in the houses.
Ah, in my comment I was referring to your average everyday citizen. High rank adventurers should totally be able to rent a house on their own.

But yeah, people renting it together could be fun~
 

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Not really, Model 2 was a considerable improvement over what we were getting before~

Ah, in my comment I was referring to your average everyday citizen. High rank adventurers should totally be able to rent a house on their own.

But yeah, people renting it together could be fun~
:sweating_profusely: Gotta stop speed reading, and taking things out of context.

House RP seems like a good aim for Vysic. But who would share a house with him. :sweat_smile:
 

AliceShiki

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:sweating_profusely: Gotta stop speed reading, and taking things out of context.

House RP seems like a good aim for Vysic. But who would share a house with him. :sweat_smile:
*pat pat pat*

And who knows? Maybe you'll find a roommate somehow~

... Or maybe you could make Adsall V2 share a house with him as they both become lovers and share their most intimate memories~ :blob_aww: :blob_aww: :blob_aww:
 
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