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[ekam]

.....is this entire thread AI?

And what made you think so?

 

[TheIcMan]

you talk like chatgpt for one.

Thanks for the heads-up on the em-dashes! It’s wild how a punctuation mark can become a 'red flag,' but I totally see what you mean. I’ll be going through my current chapters to hunt those down and see if I can use more natural breaks instead. I’m glad you found the story 'fine' despite the one-sentence paragraphs—I’m definitely still trying to find that balance between mobile-friendly and 'big boy' prose!



You caught me laughing at the 'smell of ozone' comment. You’re so right—it’s such a cliché! In an ancient forest, things should smell like damp earth, crushed jasmine, or woodsmoke, not a malfunctioning printer.

I really appreciate the warning about readers going into 'sentry warden' mode. It’s a bit of a minefield, but I’d rather be told now so I can keep the 'industrial' feel out of my world. I'm going to work on making sure my descriptions stay grounded in reality, not 'clanker' templates. Thanks for the save!"


Challenge accepted! I hear you loud and clear—at the end of the day, all the prose-polishing in the world doesn't matter if the story doesn't move. I promise to keep the fire going so you don't have to worry about getting cold.

The 'Silent Temple' is coming up next, and I’m making sure it’s anything but boring. Thanks for keeping me on my toes!"

all of this sounds inhuman out the ass. "you're so right--it's such a cliche!" ??? holy lmao. out of anything else in this shit ass world, i don't want scribblehub falling to more ai slop.

 

[Akkizakura]

.....is this entire thread AI?

you talk like chatgpt for one.

@OtherSlater see this? If @Macha isn't the first one who said that you write like AI, someone else will. This behavior is very common.

out of anything else in this shit ass world, i don't want scribblehub falling to more ai slop.

And this is the reason for that behavior. Some people cared for the site more than others.

 

[Macha]

@OtherSlater see this? If @Macha isn't the first one who said that you write like AI, someone else will. This behavior is very common.


And this is the reason for that behavior. Some people cared for the site more than others.

@OtherSlater sorry for that. I need to communicate my intent more clearly next time. I already apologized on that thread for being wrong and is okay if you rejected my apology. It happens. What happened after that is beyond my control. Unlike some SHF users, I don't have clairvoyance.

I have no way of knowing SHF users would react to your new thread by being rude on you because of a thread they made before which I don't know existed and is now being locked by the mods.

If anything I said offended you, that's fine. I'm the one at fault. My words tend to have that effect on people.

 

[TheIcMan]

What's this about?

 

[Louhi]

What's this about?

What happened on this thread happened to another feedback thread today. A user is pointing out why they think the thread poster used AI. You know, average day on SHF.

 

[Akkizakura]

What happened on this thread happened to another feedback thread today. A user is pointing out why they think the thread poster used AI. You know, average day on SHF.

Welcome to the new normal.

 

[TheIcMan]

What happened on this thread happened to another feedback thread today. A user is pointing out why they think the thread poster used AI. You know, average day on SHF.

Ah yeah, when like half of the posts are AI written and try to pass it off as not? Yep. Hell on earth I say.

It's funny mr. OP hasn't responded to me yet. Because I will throw ad hominems at AI """writers""" every chance I get. Or are AI """writers""" incapable of knowing what an ad hominem is. Probably.

 

[Louhi]

Ah yeah, when like half of the posts are AI written and try to pass it off as not? Yep. Hell on earth I say.

It's funny mr. OP hasn't responded to me yet. Because I will throw ad hominems at AI """writers""" every chance I get. Or are AI """writers""" incapable of knowing what an ad hominem is. Probably.

The AI posts are giving us trust issues. This hurt human authors asking for real feedback. We really live in this Hell of a world called Earth.

 

[FRWriter]

I have to agree... he probably writes these responses himself but is too ashamed or scared of making a mistake, thus posting it into GPT with a prompt like: "Please improve my response and make it seem natural and funny," or something.

 

[Louhi]

I have to agree... he probably writes these responses himself but is too ashamed or scared of making a mistake, thus posting it into GPT with a prompt like: "Please improve my response and make it seem natural and funny," or something.

The last time something like that happened, it didn't went well. Ask @Alski for details.

 

[OtherSlater]

@OtherSlater sorry for that. I need to communicate my intent more clearly next time. I already apologized on that thread for being wrong and is okay if you rejected my apology. It happens. What happened after that is beyond my control. Unlike some SHF users, I don't have clairvoyance.

I have no way of knowing SHF users would react to your new thread by being rude on you because of a thread they made before which I don't know existed and is now being locked by the mods.

If anything I said offended you, that's fine. I'm the one at fault. My words tend to have that effect on people.

I forgive you, it happens.

 

[TheIcMan]

I have to agree... he probably writes these responses himself but is too ashamed or scared of making a mistake, thus posting it into GPT with a prompt like: "Please improve my response and make it seem natural and funny," or something.

which is the crux of the issue. being afraid to make mistakes and being ashamed of it is fine. but own up to it. people will make fun of you, sure, but you'll be earnest and people can respect that. AI-ify it, and all respect goes out the window. we all start from somewhere. mtl'ing your own words to make it "better" just drives you into a hole.

 

[Akkizakura]

I forgive you, it happens.

You may now kiss the bride.

 

[OtherSlater]

You may now kiss the bride.

Rivals to Lovers omg

 

[ekam]

you talk like chatgpt for one.

all of this sounds inhuman out the ass. "you're so right--it's such a cliche!" ??? holy lmao. out of anything else in this shit ass world, i don't want scribblehub falling to more ai slop.

Ah yeah, when like half of the posts are AI written and try to pass it off as not? Yep. Hell on earth I say.

It's funny mr. OP hasn't responded to me yet. Because I will throw ad hominems at AI """writers""" every chance I get. Or are AI """writers""" incapable of knowing what an ad hominem is. Probably.

I haven’t responded yet because I wanted to make sure I addressed this with a clear head. (and i was working on fiverr to earn bread, so i didnt check the forum after my last response. i dont have a name here, so probably i dont get 2 notifications per week)

To be honest... I was afraid, this is my first time on scribblehub and my first time sharing my work. In the 'real world' people aren't always forgiving of mistakes and I was terrified that spelling or grammar errors would lead people to trash the story I’ve spent substantial time manually writing and rewriting and then correcting it using AI (if you read the thread replies i did write this out earlier) before they even gave the plot a chance.

Yes, I used AI to refine my responses and edit my prose because I wanted to give the best impression possible. I didn't want my struggle with English to get in the way of the story. But I'm realizing now that in trying to be 'perfect' I ended up sounding 'inhuman'

I’m a real person, I’m learning, and I’m trying to navigate a community that (rightfully) hates lazy slop. I’m not a bot-spammer; I’m a learning writer and a first time poster who used a tool because he was afraid of being trolled for his mistakes. Thank you for the blunt reality check. I would rather be judged for being a human with messy English than be mistaken for a machine

I have to agree... he probably writes these responses himself but is too ashamed or scared of making a mistake, thus posting it into GPT with a prompt like: "Please improve my response and make it seem natural and funny," or something.

Nah thats not exactly what i do, you might know how blazing fast people are to conclude something in this fast paced world, Not ashamed but yea scared, on losing the opportunity of getting actual response and criticism from experienced authors or readers if they judge me on my mistakes on this thread, or lose interest because of my absurd reponses. It's hard to find good criticism or appreciation. I want to know if i can write stories that people like, or would like to read, or everything is just a big waste of time thinking, concocting stories, scenarios, etc.

Well, I usually write your comment and then my reply like this, and then ask GPT:
Role: Act as an expert community manager and editor for a fiction author.
Task: Review and refine a reply to a reader on Scribblehub.
Context: > * Thread Context: [Insert thread context/summary here]

• Reader's Comment: "[Insert reader's reply here]"
• My Draft Response: "[Insert your draft here]"

Instructions:

1. Polish: Correct grammar, punctuation, and syntax while preserving my original "voice" and core intent.
2. Human Authenticity: Ensure the final text sounds like an actual human writing a personal message. Avoid "AI-isms" (like overly formal transitions, repetitive structures, or being excessively polite/robotic). Keep it natural and conversational.
3. Tone Check: Evaluate if the response sounds defensive, passive-aggressive, or offensive.
4. The "Wise" Filter: Ensure the response communicates clearly and firmly (if needed) without being hurtful. If it’s too aggressive, suggest a "high road" alternative.
5. Character Consistency: Ensure the tone of the response aligns with my established public persona as an author.

Output: Provide the corrected version first, followed by a brief "Tone Analysis" note.

After using this, i read the response and then if its what i wanted, I posted that. For Example the above response i wrote on your pose would be:

"Haha, fair guess, but not quite. I get that it’s easy to jump to conclusions these days, but it’s less about shame and more about just being cautious. I’m honestly just worried about losing the chance to get real feedback or criticism from people who know their stuff. I’d hate for a few typos or an awkward reply to make an experienced reader lose interest before they even see the story.

Finding genuine appreciation or helpful critiques is tough. I really just want to know if these stories and characters I’m concocting are actually worth the time, or if I’m just shouting into the void. I’m just trying to make sure the focus stays on the writing itself!"

 

[TheIcMan]

I haven’t responded yet because I wanted to make sure I addressed this with a clear head. (and i was working on fiverr to earn bread, so i didnt check the forum after my last response. i dont have a name here, so probably i dont get 2 notifications per week)

To be honest... I was afraid, this is my first time on scribblehub and my first time sharing my work. In the 'real world' people aren't always forgiving of mistakes and I was terrified that spelling or grammar errors would lead people to trash the story I’ve spent substantial time manually writing and rewriting and then correcting it using AI (if you read the thread replies i did write this out earlier) before they even gave the plot a chance.

Yes, I used AI to refine my responses and edit my prose because I wanted to give the best impression possible. I didn't want my struggle with English to get in the way of the story. But I'm realizing now that in trying to be 'perfect' I ended up sounding 'inhuman'

I’m a real person, I’m learning, and I’m trying to navigate a community that (rightfully) hates lazy slop. I’m not a bot-spammer; I’m a learning writer and a first time poster who used a tool because he was afraid of being trolled for his mistakes. Thank you for the blunt reality check. I would rather be judged for being a human with messy English than be mistaken for a machine

on god??? genuine question here: was AI used at all in this response. because good lord is it a night and day difference from the asinine output chatgpt gave you in this entire thread. you actually sound human! (as long as it didn't get a train run on it by mr. ram-stealer, and if it did and it sounded like this, fuck it, keep using it LMFAO).

and you're right, and as i said before. people aren't forgiving of mistakes. and i am someone who will absolutely point out grammatical and syntax errors because it's part of the art form of writing. it's foundational stuff. it will bar a LOT of people from reading your stuff. it does for everyone. that's something you have to realize that that substantial time is necessary work. i've put in hundreds of hours into shit that'll never see the light of day. 200k words for a project? scrapped because it was ass. i've been writing on and off for near 13 damn years, and i still don't do it correctly.

your priorities should be 1, write for yourself and figure out your shortcomings. don't over rely on ai. 2, grow a backbone. as tough as it sounds, you need it to filter out "criticism" that's pure white noise or nonsense. you need to be able to stomach things that you'll read as trolling in order to find comments that are genuinely trying to help. and 3, understand that making mistakes is a natural process. this is fucking scribblehub. not nytimes. we'd rather see you put two characters' dialogue in the same paragraph than see shit slop processed by llm garbage. because you'll be able to learn and overcome your mistakes when people point them out. but when people see clearly AI generated responses? that's all they'll talk about, case in point.

i really could be yapping at the wind here, but idc. people using ai as a crutch because they're too scared need to change their mindsets. you're going to be clowned on either way. so pick the option that will give you more meaning for your passion (your own work. not slop.)

 

[Akkizakura]

I'm realizing now that in trying to be 'perfect' I ended up sounding 'inhuman'

I’m a real person, I’m learning, and I’m trying to navigate a community that (rightfully) hates lazy slop. I’m not a bot-spammer; I’m a learning writer and a first time poster who used a tool because he was afraid of being trolled for his mistakes. Thank you for the blunt reality check. I would rather be judged for being a human with messy English than be mistaken for a machine

That's right. Not being perfect is what makes us human. Trying to be perfect just makes you sounds Phyrexian.

Glory to Phyrexia. All will be one.

 

[Eldoria]

I’m a real person, I’m learning, and I’m trying to navigate a community that (rightfully) hates lazy slop. I’m not a bot-spammer; I’m a learning writer and a first time poster who used a tool because he was afraid of being trolled for his mistakes. Thank you for the blunt reality check. I would rather be judged for being a human with messy English than be mistaken for a machine

Dude, you don't need to be discouraged... almost everyone has made mistakes or been accused of being wrong. However, what's important is how we try to understand each other without trying to get involved in a deeper mess.

Back then... my first time at SH, I wasn't just accused of using AI, but I was accused of being AI itself. Why?

Because my answers and responses were too neat, formal, and structured. People easily misunderstand and associate neatness with AI.

At first, I was confused too... but I also asked for clarification on the accusation. Thankfully... we understood and forgave each other. Even the accusatory message was deleted voluntarily without my asking.

If we look at the chaos caused by excessive AI use, scammers, AI works, and jobs taken by AI... all these misunderstandings are understandable.

The point is, take it easy, don't take it personally. If you are accused of using AI or even being a bot, please correct the misunderstanding if you are innocent.

And for all of us... the important thing is to try to understand each other, empathize, and forgive mistakes.

Remember, humans are prone to error, but they are also capable of learning from their mistakes to become better, more humble, empathetic, and compassionate.

That's what differentiates humans from AI, which can learn from data but can't feel with a conscience.

 

[Macha]

Dude

?

Because my answers and responses were too neat, formal, and structured. People easily misunderstand and associate neatness with AI.

AI-detectors do that too. Are you saying AI-detectors are people too? They flagged my works written before AI >50% AI. They also flagged books written centuries ago as AI.

Was the Bible translated from Aramaic to Greek and Latin using AI? No one knows. We might not have invented AI; we just rediscovered them.

The point is, take it easy, don't take it personally. If you are accused of using AI or even being a bot, please correct the misunderstanding if you are innocent.

All is innocent until proven guilty. Please don't disappear like most people asking for feedback after it's given. Even if the feedback is stop using AI or AI-assistance and you happen to not use them.

Please try to speak the truth instead of leaving the forum like half of the users starting threads like this as TheICMan once stated.

Remember, humans are prone to error, but they are also capable of learning from their mistakes to become better, more humble, empathetic, and compassionate.

AIs are also capable of learning from their mistakes too. We are doomed (lol JK)

They can only make themselves sound more humble, emphatic, and compassionate like that version of GPT everyone hates because as an AI it don't actually understand those concepts and moderation making it ends up sounding like a sycophant.