Why! Why no armor!

[2021]

I think the armor that was actually hard to move in was stuff like the Dendra panoply, but those were generally meant for chariot warfare if I remember correctly.

See my statement stands true. Why does that person wear that set of armor. Each armor is made for different purposes. But I do agree armor is expensive, but I think people would spend as much as they can to not die.


Like the gambeson. Looked up it’s average price was, plus some other clothing: five to ten shillings.

 

[Irl_Rat]

See my statement stands true. Why does that person wear that set of armor. Each armor is made for different purposes. But I do agree armor is expensive, but I think people would spend as much as they can to not die.

Yeah but stuff like the Dendra panoply and super heavy cavalry armor were anything but versatile. If you fell off your horse or chariot then you best start praying because there was no way you were getting up.

 

[2021]

Yeah but stuff like the Dendra panoply and super heavy cavalry armor were anything but versatile. If you fell off your horse or chariot then you best start praying because there was no way you were getting up.

Yeah, pretty much putting a turtle on wheelies

 

[T.K._Paradox]

Also fun fact, bikini armor did exist, for cultural reasons. Best examples I can currently thing of are my ancestral Scots.

Some of them would charge into battle shirtless, or in their underwear; hell some of them went buck naked except for boots, a shield, and a of course with a weapon or a couple weapons.

Usually it was meant to show fearlessness and bravery, it could also mean your mocking the opponent by basically saying they are not something to be fear, and it could also be a used as a scare tactic. Armed men running and screaming at you naked must have been scary after all.

 

[2021]

Also fun fact, bikini armor did exist, for cultural reasons. Best examples I can currently thing of are my ancestral Scots.

Some of them would charge into battle shirtless, or in their underwear; hell some of them went buck naked except for boots, a shield, and a of course with a weapon or a couple weapons.

Usually it was meant to show fearlessness and bravery, it could also mean your mocking the opponent by basically saying they are not something to be fear, and it could also be a used as a scare tactic. Armed men running and screaming at you naked must have been scary after all.

Yeah, reading The response about bood armor. I thought ‘Why not just go nude, it’s pretty much the same thing’ Far more scary to see naked man, then a scantly clad female.

 

[Irl_Rat]

The bottom line is that not every writer is a history nerd with an obsession for pre modern warfare. Sure there are awful mistakes made by some writers, but overall most get their job done. A story is more than just descriptions and overly descriptive descriptions can be outright annoying.

If you want to get into giga specifics about panoplies then go to one of those historical warfare forums. Mfs there be citing sources I don't even have access to. Or getting into wargaming.

 

[2021]

The bottom line is that not every writer is a history nerd with an obsession for pre modern warfare. Sure there are awful mistakes made by some writers, but overall most get their job done. A story is more than just descriptions and overly descriptive descriptions can be outright annoying.

If you want to get into giga specifics about panoplies then go to one of those historical warfare forums. Mfs there be citing sources I don't even have access to. Or getting into wargaming.

I didnt mean for 500+ description, but a good reason for that set of armor. Can be given through dialogue, and/or the (mc) giving a short description of it, along with a guess of what it might before.


Or in Author note, you can give a small trivia about that pair of armor. So stats, yeah, movement, defense, where it’s most commonly used. How much it cost.

 

[Irl_Rat]

I didnt mean for 500+ description, but a good reason for that set of armor. Can be given through dialogue, and/or the (mc) giving a short description of it, along with a guess of what it might before.


Or in Author note, you can give a small trivia about that pair of armor. So stats, yeah, movement, defense, where it’s most commonly used. How much it cost.

There's a reasonable amount of works on this site that do this. Since a reasonable amount of writers and readers here are history nerds and/or people who watch Shadiversity.

 

[2021]

I think the armor that was actually hard to move in was stuff like the Dendra panoply, but those were generally meant for chariot warfare if I remember correctly.

True, true, atleast write a name for the armor. So I can geek out, by searching it up.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

i was joking my man. if anything, I was asking for them to be more illogical.

It's cool my man.

 

[AliceShiki]

Regarding Wizards and Armor... Well, first, armor requires fitness that not all wizards have.

Second, you need to get used to actually moving in it.

Third, you might need help actually wearing it.

Fourth, it's expensive.

Fifth, it might actually get in the way of magical gestures as it should restrict your movement to some extent if you aren't used to wearing it (and maybe even if you are used to wearing it? Dunno, never wore armor).

Sixth, in some universes, how well magic is conducted depends not only on the caster, but also on the things that they're wearing. If their gear has a poor magic compatibility, then their whole spellcasting process can be hindered. See Saga Frontier 2 for a good example of this, as it shows Metal as a horrible magic conductor, which forces everyone to fight using weapons of Wood and Stone instead of Steel.

Seventh, it can make for a better narrative to have your casters being fragile. Battlemages are great for power fantasies, but bad for some larger in-universe balance, since you want each role to have their strengths and weaknesses... And let's be frank, a fit, armored mage, with good sword-wielding skills and strong magic is basically what every single caster would become if it was possible.

 

[2021]

Regarding Wizards and Armor... Well, first, armor requires fitness that not all wizards have.

Second, you need to get used to actually moving in it.

Third, you might need help actually wearing it.

Fourth, it's expensive.

Fifth, it might actually get in the way of magical gestures as it should restrict your movement to some extent if you aren't used to wearing it (and maybe even if you are used to wearing it? Dunno, never wore armor).

Sixth, in some universes, how well magic is conducted depends not only on the caster, but also on the things that they're wearing. If their gear has a poor magic compatibility, then their whole spellcasting process can be hindered. See Saga Frontier 2 for a good example of this, as it shows Metal as a horrible magic conductor, which forces everyone to fight using weapons of Wood and Stone instead of Steel.

Seventh, it can make for a better narrative to have your casters being fragile. Battlemages are great for power fantasies, but bad for some larger in-universe balance, since you want each role to have their strengths and weaknesses... And let's be frank, a fit, armored mage, with good sword-wielding skills and strong magic is basically what every single caster would become if it was possible.

Second is false. Yeah, some of its right. But armor is that hard to get use to wearing, useless your referring To heavy ones.

First, why can’t wizard’s be buff, I think most should me healthy enough for light armor. Chain is only 40-50 pounds, and leather armor is quite light. And wizards can just get custom leather armor, so they can use gestures and that, and if metal messes with magic, then leather is good.


Third is for big knight looking armor, that’s what a squire was for. But could’t they use magic to put it on? This is only possible if magic is compatible with metal.