Why aren't updating new chapters incresing the page views?

Jerynboe

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Idk. So far it’s a pretty damn short story. Lots of people wouldn’t give a story the time of day until it has at least 10 chapters, probably more. Most likely you just haven’t really built up much steam. Give it time, my dude.

edit: It’s also not like you are writing something that has the exact same vibes as your last story, going by the covers, or a proven track record as a consistent uploader on this site. Not every update is going to make a splash, especially when you’re writing in a saturated market and don’t have a lot of brand recognition.
 

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Dear seniors, I am an author here.
I have published my second fiction and have already published 5 chapters.

The Destruction of the World ~ I Possess Monstrous Abilities in the Reconstructed World!


However, after publishing chapter.3, the subsequent chapters(such as chapter .4 and .5) hardly increase the page views of my fiction?
Did something go wrong?
:s_eek::cry::unsure:
1) Cover
2) Too generic title
3) People are tired of axed/giving up authors, so they read after XX or even 100chaps stockpiled
4) You are the 30th author asking "why no popularity after X chapters"
5) Now its prefer to do anime-ish things
5.5) For serious things, its recommended to go Royalroad. ITS NOT gatekeeping, just an advice.
6) Smut is prefered for SH
tired to continue

but i will summary for you


Writing is like DRAWING

Anime = popular
Smut = popular
Theme = important despite same skill lvl (unpopular theme could get 5views vs lower quality but popular theme get 5k)
Thumbsnail/cover = important
Quality = important
Own style
Originality
Lot of works
Being eyecatching is a shortcut (khyle for example, did controversial works, that attracted lot of fans / or NTR doujins be one big example)
Tragedy(guro) is disliked
etc
etc
etc

Sorry for my cold post. But tired rn. Combo 2, tired mentally to see again a "Why no popularity thread" (no joke we get 1 every 2 weeks or less)
3th, i am a picky tongue, and basically im the Gordon Ramsay of SHF.
4th, slightly angry at how people dont bother to know the mainstream preferences of readers (often the "no popularity" threads are authors doing fantasy works 2010style)
 

Tsuru

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tldr 2 :
58585
 

Hyone

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1) Cover
2) Too generic title
3) People are tired of axed/giving up authors, so they read after XX or even 100chaps stockpiled
4) You are the 30th author asking "why no popularity after X chapters"
5) Now its prefer to do anime-ish things
5.5) For serious things, its recommended to go Royalroad. ITS NOT gatekeeping, just an advice.
6) Smut is prefered for SH
tired to continue

but i will summary for you


Writing is like DRAWING

Anime = popular
Smut = popular
Theme = important despite same skill lvl (unpopular theme could get 5views vs lower quality but popular theme get 5k)
Thumbsnail/cover = important
Quality = important
Own style
Originality
Lot of works
Being eyecatching is a shortcut (khyle for example, did controversial works, that attracted lot of fans / or NTR doujins be one big example)
Tragedy(guro) is disliked
etc
etc
etc

Sorry for my cold post. But tired rn. Combo 2, tired mentally to see again a "Why no popularity thread" (no joke we get 1 every 2 weeks or less)
3th, i am a picky tongue, and basically im the Gordon Ramsay of SHF.
4th, slightly angry at how people dont bother to know the mainstream preferences of readers (often the "no popularity" threads are authors doing fantasy works 2010style)
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have learned it and will seriously consider making changes!
No tags.
Generic title.
No tiddies on cover.

Fix those three things and you'll do a lot better.
Thank you for your reply, I will consider making changes next!
Idk. So far it’s a pretty damn short story. Lots of people wouldn’t give a story the time of day until it has at least 10 chapters, probably more. Most likely you just haven’t really built up much steam. Give it time, my dude.

edit: It’s also not like you are writing something that has the exact same vibes as your last story, going by the covers, or a proven track record as a consistent uploader on this site. Not every update is going to make a splash, especially when you’re writing in a saturated market and don’t have a lot of brand recogn
That's OK. Thank you very much!
 

Tsuru

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Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have learned it and will seriously consider making changes!

Thank you for your reply, I will consider making changes next!

That's OK. Thank you very much!
(y)

Remember.
Its no problem to do you.
But again, its writing for self or readers. If self its fine, but if popularity, sorry but its 2024 and there is too much competition/content.
Its like : Do you know how many Vtubers that are totally anonymous compared to Hololive ? there are hundreds or even thousands if we includ very weird stuff or even amateur ones. And in china its like THE ROADS is full of people livestreaming (not a joke).

You can still continue to write serious-style (no there is no insinuation in this sentence).
But again, remember that in 2024, there are like 100 animes, 40 games, HUNDREDS of mangas, THOUSANDS OF TRANSLATED NOVELS, and like dozen hundreds of serious-style novels in ROYALROAD / SH.

SO UNLESS you got a certain "speciality" to be different than the norm, you likely wont make a splash.
Like some royalroad series, a MC be very unlucky in a wuxia world (re:zero-like) that miss modern world, another one the MC is harem full of demihumans where "weak humans" are basically like albinos genes and "harem/power-masters" from concubines,
a reincarnator that control all magics (multiverse idea BEFORE marvel),
etc
This, are some of the few popular ones.
Bc in the end Question is : Why should reader read YOURS and not COMPETITORS.
And that is why Chinese novels (raws) and JP, do so attractive covers and LONG SPOILER TITLE or very fun summaries.
Even if its dislikeable MC or a WEIRD mc like a pervert, in the end, you must be remembered. Though WARNING, you must find ways to keep your readers to come back (and not giving up, and punctuality is big factor) because its far too easy to take a break for 1 week or 1 month and bam -50% reader base.

But like with drawing.
1) If you dont give up
2) You do a lot. Punctually.
3) If you are GOOD at it
(some nowadays/old artists, their old works on danbooru are like very bad, or some recent artists were bad just 2-1years ago)

Then YES, you can succeed. (with some luck / talents)
Thank you very much for your suggestion. I have learned it and will seriously consider making changes!

Thank you for your reply, I will consider making changes next!

That's OK. Thank you very much!
And to add more infos, as a bonus
like drawing, some people can choose to NOT do anime things, their ceiling will be lower (compared to mainstream being about anime-things)

but still can succeed :

original drawn by hayapi_(sinsin08051)
nightfall (armored core and 1 more) drawn by kusami_toka_naku_au

(but again, some ceilings are very low and most cant stick to it which is normal)
(also its fine to incorporate some small dose of anime things in serious stuff, i mean, even chineses cant anymore do serious wuxia works)

peace out-gl
(y)

[[[[[EDIT : AT THE END OF THE DAY : Novel is a product. And a product that doesnt catter to audience likes, flop. That simple. Good old logic.
Its like "psychology" or "thriller" or "horror" will rarely succeed now.
Reverse logic-example : Its like people drawing furries despite not furries-liker or hating it, because SO MUCH CASH by commisions.
Or did you know that some "faceslap" or "normal brain" chinese authors, did shitty faceslap novels OR nationalist novels SIMPLY BECAUSE readers like it ? (yes, some do totally normal author notes while the novel is like negative-IQ plot full of BS because market want it)
Or ultra good artists, i seen on danbooru, they were drawing unpopular IPs for LONG TIME, but SUDDENLY changed to a popular ones, and got like 500+ score soon. (likely they couldnt stand anymore their unpopularity). Because "theme" is GIGA IMPORTANT. With same skills, a drawing of "original" vs a smut drawing of Zenless Zero/Genshin, its easy to guess which will get "likes/popularity"and that is the sadness of "too much content" and "lack of publicity" and human psychology.]]]]]]
 
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Dieter

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Adding onto what @TsuruI_am_a_bot said, I would also advice you not to sell your soul either. Have some principles and write what you want to write and hope that others find what interests you interesting as well. Don't write for others, for the market. No one respects a shill, and what's the point of writing something that makes you filthy rich but you're indifferent to it at the end of the day?
Write what you're passionate about pls.

In the eyes of your average LN reader, our novels—our precious babies—are a past-time. Curiosity makes them pick up your story, not duty. If your synopsis doesn't excite them, they move on. If the 1st few chapters doesn't excite them, they are merciless. Chapter 100 might be a banger, but will they ever get there if Chapter 1 is a drool and Chapter 3 offends them? Some come to SH after eating dinner, others after school; others to find the next LOTR, and a surprising amount still come here to jerk off (smuthub). Seems complicated, I know—how do I get my story popular?

Don't overthink it. Just write what you want to write, be consistent in your uploads, and leave the rest to God.
I wrote all this just so I could quote Goethe's Faust. So here it is:

They’re still as prone to weeping as to laughter,
still like fine turns of speech, delight in make-believe—
there is no pleasing those who are adult and know it,
but those who’re young won’t fail to show appreciation.
 

Tsuru

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Adding onto what @TsuruI_am_a_bot said, I would also advice you not to sell your soul either. Have some principles and write what you want to write and hope that others find what interests you interesting as well. Don't write for others, for the market. No one respects a shill, and what's the point of writing something that makes you filthy rich but you're indifferent to it at the end of the day?
Write what you're passionate about pls.

In the eyes of your average LN reader, our novels—our precious babies—are a past-time. Curiosity makes them pick up your story, not duty. If your synopsis doesn't excite them, they move on. If the 1st few chapters doesn't excite them, they are merciless. Chapter 100 might be a banger, but will they ever get there if Chapter 1 is a drool and Chapter 3 offends them? Some come to SH after eating dinner, others after school; others to find the next LOTR, and a surprising amount still come here to jerk off (smuthub). Seems complicated, I know—how do I get my story popular?

Don't overthink it. Just write what you want to write, be consistent in your uploads, and leave the rest to God.
I wrote all this just so I could quote Goethe's Faust. So here it is:

They’re still as prone to weeping as to laughter,
still like fine turns of speech, delight in make-believe—
there is no pleasing those who are adult and know it,
but those who’re young won’t fail to show appreciation.
Yep :blob_aww:

and to summarize our both words

It depends on author choice.
Everything is a balance to "what to choose to do".
And the answers are easy to find and to think of.
In fact, like most "threads" asking about it, unless being very dumb (they and you too, are not) they simply already know the answer. OR know the answer after thinking by themselves later (but already posted).

Just do you.
It is what it is.

And you collect what you sow.

Very IMPORTANT info : Reason old masterpieces are masterpieces/good, is bc they were written WITHOUT WITHOUT POPULARITY IN MIND.
OPM was like a blog hobby. Artist then gone to do salaryman job and half do sometimes OPM.
Mushoku Tensei, the FLAME BEARER of "isekai" slang in WN jp industry, pretty sure the guy didnt expect a blow out like this.
Naruto ? The dude simply wanted to do FURRY STUFF (naruto is son of dead kyuubi - one old official art of him as furry - editor saved it by asking to change it, hidden hero)
Worse of all, EVANGELION. Guess what. This masterpiece of a timeless work FOREVER REMEMBERED UNTIL END OF TIMES in anime industry ?
The creators, WERE GONNA BE BANKRUPT !!!!! (when doing it) So they were like : FK IT ! Lets go bonkers on it ! (and that is why there is this funny shenanigan of a BLANK PERIOD at very end = "We didnt have money anymore for this part....." lololol)
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botty liking my posts :blob_aww: i love u
 
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