The misfortune of Ai writing style

[Envylope]

You would think being able to spot Ai written stories would be an amazing talent to have, no, no it's not. This have ruined the reading experience of many books that I genuinely liked not because of the plot, but because of the nagging feeling that it was written by ai and then finding out to my great disappointment that it was indeed written by chat gpt once I put it into zero gpt.

Zero GPT is very inaccurate. I don't use AI for editing or for writing, and my chapters have been flagged as much as 30%. And in a different AI thing, it said 92%.

The only way to know with accuracy if something is AI is how coherent the story is. AI has a limited memory, so it can't remember things that happened in earlier chapters. Humans can't really do that either, but they are better at it than AI.

You should only judge a story if you like it or not. I wouldn't trust an AI to tell me what is AI if I already don't trust AI. You just have to rely on your own intuition.

 

[FluffyGura]

Zero GPT is very inaccurate. I don't use AI for editing or for writing, and my chapters have been flagged as much as 30%. And in a different AI thing, it said 92%.

The only way to know with accuracy if something is AI is how coherent the story is. AI has a limited memory, so it can't remember things that happened in earlier chapters. Humans can't really do that either, but they are better at it than AI.

You should only judge a story if you like it or not. I wouldn't trust an AI to tell me what is AI if I already don't trust AI. You just have to rely on your own intuition.

Ei that's true, but once you have read enough AI stories you start to realise AI have a way of writing that is very very familiar

also like I said it's not the fact that it's written by ai that annoys me, it's the souless way that it write that does.

 

[Dec]

Then, my own language has been AI-generated for at least 43 years, and I have never seen an EM dash outside of scientific papers until AI started throwing them into everything.

Damn, I feel ya.
Meanwhile, in my language, you use them all the time.
Literally, dialogues look like this;
— blah blah — said person 1 — blah blah blah?
— Blah! Blah blah — disagreed person 2.
— Nyaaaa! — acknowledged the cat, while dropping things from the table.

 

[Mellohwa]

I will have to agree with juia here, I have read alot of novels written by human and none have used em dash as much as AI have ever used. Of course, exceptions like decaded might occur but hey that doesn't mean we are wrong too?
Cuz it is a fact that AI uses em dash alot, no matter how much you argue even the one decaded produced using AI is filled with em dashes

The art community rn is the future of this community, unless you consume published novels. Though the current trend in the creative field I'm seeing across social media is to be imperfect, embracing human mistakes, so maybe somewhere in the future, this site might cleanse itself from AI. imho

 

[Envylope]

Then, my own language has been AI-generated for at least 43 years, and I have never seen an EM dash outside of scientific papers until AI started throwing them into everything.

Brandon Sanderson was using them a lot before the AI boom. I didn't really like one of his books that I was reading, but I picked up their usage, since I did like how he used them in some places.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

Damn, I feel ya.
Meanwhile, in my language, you use them all the time.
Literally, dialogues look like this;
— blah blah — said person 1 — blah blah blah?
— Blah! Blah blah — disagreed person 2.
— Nyaaaa! — acknowledged the cat, while dropping things from the table.

*confused old man with university English courses noises*

The hell is that?

 

[Dec]

maybe somewhere in the future, this site might cleanse itself from AI

Doubtful. That would require active moderation of the main site, and there is basically none of it.

The hell is that?

Polish written dialogue. And we ain't the only ones in the EU who use it like this.

 

[L1aei]

Honestly, before 2018, I didn't know em dashes existed. Instead, I used two dashes mooshed together like this -- and my editor -- in my novels.

 

[FluffyGura]

Damn, I feel ya.
Meanwhile, in my language, you use them all the time.
Literally, dialogues look like this;
— blah blah — said person 1 — blah blah blah?
— Blah! Blah blah — disagreed person 2.
— Nyaaaa! — acknowledged the cat, while dropping things from the table.

Ye but the way u use it, is for dialogue no?, AI uses it for stuff other than dialogue.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

Brandon Sanderson was using them a lot before the AI boom. I didn't really like one of his books that I was reading, but I picked up their usage, since I did like how he used them in some places.

Which books? I swear I own most of his works, and I don't recall seeing those... wait, maybe, but it wasn't prolific like AI likes to use them. It was to highlight key points.

 

[Dec]

Ye but the way u use it, is for dialogue no?, AI uses it for stuff other than dialogue.

We too use it for other things than dialogue.
But anyway, it's hard to discern AI writing solely from it, and there are many better variables to rely on. Like repetitions, or "it's not X, it's Y" that AI likes to put everywhere.
The em dashing can be just someone ignorant of how to use it, or just likes them more than commas or whatever.

 

[Envylope]

Doubtful. That would require active moderation of the main site, and there is basically none of it.


Polish written dialogue. And we ain't the only ones in the EU who use it like this.

The way that I use them is sometimes when you have a part of the sentence that doesn't need to be there for the sentence to make sense.

By the way, I stopped using them for a while because of this AI thing, but recently I started incorporating them again. I realized that it makes no sense to change the way I write in order to placate people that may think my story is AI. Pretty soon, every one will get the accusation, so it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Mellohwa]

Honestly, before 2018, I didn't know em dashes existed. Instead, I used two dashes mooshed together like this -- and my editor -- in my novels.

Nothing personal, but as someone who knows em dashes exist, it icks me when an author uses "--." But I guess nothing last forever and -- is now, possibly, humanity's last hope.

 

[Envylope]

Which books? I swear I own most of his works, and I don't recall seeing those... wait, maybe, but it wasn't prolific like AI likes to use them. It was to highlight key points.

It was in "The Way of Kings". I can probably find a specific usage if I just go look right now.

 

[L1aei]

Nothing personal, but as someone who knows em dashes exist, it icks me when an author uses "--." But I guess nothing last forever and -- is now, possibly, humanity's last hope.

It's what I was taught before AI ever was a nightmare for novelists.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

It was in "The Way of Kings". I can probably find a specific usage if I just go look right now.

naw I believe you, I actually think I recall a few now in the Mistborn series.

 

[Envylope]

Which books? I swear I own most of his works, and I don't recall seeing those... wait, maybe, but it wasn't prolific like AI likes to use them. It was to highlight key points.

It was in "The Way of Kings". I can probably find a specific usage if I just go look right now.

Literally first pages of the first chapter.

 

[FluffyGura]

We too use it for other things than dialogue.
But anyway, it's hard to discern AI writing solely from it, and there are many better variables to rely on. Like repetitions, or "it's not X, it's Y" that AI likes to put everywhere.
The em dashing can be just someone ignorant of how to use it, or just likes them more than commas or whatever.

But if u read my original post I didn't talk about em dash tho? In fact I uses "it's not amazing, it's wonderful" as an example

 

[L1aei]

Oh, hey! Now I remember why I used the double-dash in my writing. So, I used to write a lot on Google Docs so that my editor and others could watch me write. If you do the "--" in there, it automatically transforms it into an emdash.

 

[Mellohwa]

It's what I was taught before AI ever was a nightmare for novelists.

Never knew it was a thing! I apologize to all the authors I met in my past.

Here is some of my early research on how to write, as I'm not someone with literacy (?) background:

Dashes, hyphens and ellipses – a technical note​

This is a hyphen: “-”. It’s used to join compound words (“eye-colour”) and compound modifiers (“over-propelled” pegasus).

This is an en dash: “–”. It’s a little-used punctuation mark employed to indicate ranges of values (“pages 40–45”), relationships (“Doctor–patient relationship”), and a number of other things.

This is an em dash: “—”. It’s used—without spaces—as the “dash” punctuation mark.

“But, Ezn,” you ask, “why haven’t you been using unspaced em dashes? What’s with your spaced en dashes? Why are you lying to me?!”

The simple answer is that I prefer the way spaced en dashes look, and am not alone in this preference. The Chicago Manual of Style recommends unspaced em dashes, but “style guides outside of the US tend to diverge from this guidance”.

Some folk (such as The New York Times and Wired) even like to use — get this — a spaced em dash. Isn’t typography something?

Courtesy to: EZN