Question for non native English

[AwakenFreddy]

Question for non native english.

Do you write your story directly in english or do you write first in your native language then translate it to english?

And how deal with grammar, tense or other sentence structure?

As someone that grow in country where the main language doesnt really care about languange structure and learn english myself from reading and rarely speaking or writing i always feel that i doesnt have a capabilty to write a good sentence structure or in natural way.

Any tips to improve my english writing skill? Like maybe learn this part first the that part.

Thanks you in advance

 

[Deleted member 266]

Do you write your story directly in english

Yes

And how deal with grammar, tense or other sentence structure?

Learn it

Any tips to improve my english writing skill?

Read lots of books (not self-publish web novels)
Actually read word after word, without skimming
Read it out loud sometimes.

 

[Corty]

Directly in English.
I deal with grammar by learning English and using programs like Grammarly to help me out.

Any tips? Write.

The difference between my current chapters and the very first ones I wrote 4-5 years ago is night and day. Improvement only comes with experience.

 

[AncestorDuck]

I started with DeepL and evolved to writing directly in English. It's much faster, and for me, DeepL lacks certain word choices. For a spell-checker, I use Grammarly Premium(got it cheap for 60€/year)

 

[Puji-Maki]

Directly in English.

 

[RepresentingPride]

Question for non native english.

Do you write your story directly in english or do you write first in your native language then translate it to english?

And how deal with grammar, tense or other sentence structure?

As someone that grow in country where the main language doesnt really care about languange structure and learn english myself from reading and rarely speaking or writing i always feel that i doesnt have a capabilty to write a good sentence structure or in natural way.

Any tips to improve my english writing skill? Like maybe learn this part first the that part.

Thanks you in advance

I write it first in my language and then translate it. It kinda suck when you see the numbers of words decreasing by 300.

For grammatical and tense, I use grammarly. Chatgpt can also be used.

Write and read more, you will improve. Also, if you publish chapter, accept the corection the readers freely give you. A lot helped me in that way, and it become easier to write when listening to their advice.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

In English, learn grammar and use editing software to help.

 

[Deleted member 192215]

In English, learn grammar and use editing software to help.

Sorry, but I use Vim in a Terminal. Is that even an option?

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Sorry, but I use Vim in a Terminal. Is that even an option?

I have no idea what this means, sorry.

 

[LuoirM]

directly in English, and I don't respect grandmas so I often write wrong but it's okay

 

[Evinoran]

Directly in English, but I can also write in my native language

 

[AwakenFreddy]

Sorry, but I use Vim in a Terminal. Is that even an option?

GitHub - rhysd/vim-grammarous: A powerful grammar checker for Vim using LanguageTool.

A powerful grammar checker for Vim using LanguageTool. - rhysd/vim-grammarous

github.com

not sure if its good or not

 

[beast_regards]

English is not my first language, and my tip is:

Always write directly in English.

Use Pro-Writing-Aid or Grammarly for checks. Keep in mind those have been designed to write official corporate letters and don't understand the creative writing.

Never use ChatGPT or anything that actually rephrases the sentence structure, and if you do, use it very sparingly. The so-called "AI" have a specific way of phrasing things. It's not worth the effort, and people could pick on that.

Once you are several chapters in, as for the volunteer to proof-read your chapters one by one, in any pace he or she sees fit. This is the best way to learn from errors. You would get very few volunteers for that, if any, it's very work intensive, but helps more than any threads to point out errors, and it gives you a chance to improve over time.

Don't bother with threads asking for advice.

 

[Deleted member 192215]

GitHub - rhysd/vim-grammarous: A powerful grammar checker for Vim using LanguageTool.

A powerful grammar checker for Vim using LanguageTool. - rhysd/vim-grammarous

github.com

not sure if its good or not

Not that, but my text editor.
Vim

 

[naosu]

Actually, I have experience with this question. I'm multi-lingual. A linguist. Not a degreed linguist but I study languages for my own research.

And the big problem is... well I think in my primary language. But when I am... even when I'm fluent in another language or semi-fluent, I still can't say all the things I can say in that other second language that I can say in English. And I'm more educated in my primary language; which is English. And so when I go to say something in Spanish or ... whatever other language I've become fluent in... I still can't quite dig out as many details or flavor. It doesn't mean I'm not fluent. But its like,... my mind is very grounded and educated in all these flavors of intellect that have been developed in my mother tongue, English.

So if you go to write in your second language you can miss that because you'll miss details. You will always be able to describe more in your home language.

Does this mean you should quit? NO> Don't quit. It doesn't mean you should stop or have to do it my way either. But you can think about. OK, how do I make sure I don't lose depth and details when you write in that other language? Ask yourself how to check yourself.

 

[Deleted member 192215]

Actually, I have experience with this question. I'm multi-lingual. A linguist. Not a degreed linguist but I study languages for my own research.

And the big problem is... well I think in my primary language. But when I am... even when I'm fluent in another language or semi-fluent, I still can't say all the things I can say in that other second language that I can say in English. And I'm more educated in my primary language; which is English. And so when I go to say something in Spanish or ... whatever other language I've become fluent in... I still can't quite dig out as many details or flavor. It doesn't mean I'm not fluent. But its like,... my mind is very grounded and educated in all these flavors of intellect that have been developed in my mother tongue, English.

So if you go to write in your second language you can miss that because you'll miss details. You will always be able to describe more in your home language.

Does this mean you should quit? NO> Don't quit. It doesn't mean you should stop or have to do it my way either. But you can think about. OK, how do I make sure I don't lose depth and details when you write in that other language? Ask yourself how to check yourself.

I'm the opposite. I suck at my home language, but good in my second language (English). My mum always tell me to learn english, but not much about my home language (still only know the basics) ?.

 

[AwakenFreddy]

Not that, but my text editor.
Vim

Thats grammar checker plugin for vim

If what you ask is is vim good as editing software, i think its okay, i heard someone write their novel on note app

Actually, I have experience with this question. I'm multi-lingual. A linguist. Not a degreed linguist but I study languages for my own research.

And the big problem is... well I think in my primary language. But when I am... even when I'm fluent in another language or semi-fluent, I still can't say all the things I can say in that other second language that I can say in English. And I'm more educated in my primary language; which is English. And so when I go to say something in Spanish or ... whatever other language I've become fluent in... I still can't quite dig out as many details or flavor. It doesn't mean I'm not fluent. But its like,... my mind is very grounded and educated in all these flavors of intellect that have been developed in my mother tongue, English.

So if you go to write in your second language you can miss that because you'll miss details. You will always be able to describe more in your home language.

Does this mean you should quit? NO> Don't quit. It doesn't mean you should stop or have to do it my way either. But you can think about. OK, how do I make sure I don't lose depth and details when you write in that other language? Ask yourself how to check yourself.

Here is another problem, i use my native languange and english when im thinking. No, im not multi lingual per se its just that i rarely reading in my native language after i can read english. And when im talking i mixed my native and my local languange.

So sometime when im know some word in english it takes time for me to remember that word in my native language. And some word that i strongly remember in my native it take long time to remember that word in english

Looking on my past note that i write, it clear that the recent i wrote the more english word that i use (except some word that for some reason i forget). Its just that because i dont have some formal experience on english literature i fear that what i wrote yeah i can read it just fine, but for native it read like shit.

 

[EverenVale]

I read others' replies, and since no one mentioned it, here is what I can tell you.

To improve your English, if you don't have anyone to talk to, use AI companions. I'm not talking about ChatGPT but actual companions. You can talk with them and ask them to correct your grammar if you said anything wrong.

Even with ChatGPT, you can do that. But you have to train it first, which means specifying what level of English you're trying to talk, how friendly the AI should be, and if you want to use day-to-day language or book language.

Look at it as a learning tool, not a writing tool. It helps.

 

[TheMagicOfArt]

Question for non native english.

Do you write your story directly in english or do you write first in your native language then translate it to english?

And how deal with grammar, tense or other sentence structure?

As someone that grow in country where the main language doesnt really care about languange structure and learn english myself from reading and rarely speaking or writing i always feel that i doesnt have a capabilty to write a good sentence structure or in natural way.

Any tips to improve my english writing skill? Like maybe learn this part first the that part.

Thanks you in advance

in direct english and use autocorrect and stuff like that and the answer to the third read and read and read and lastly read even more also you should really use something like soundplant if you writeing on a computer

 

[Daydreamers]

Do you write your story directly in english

Yes

And how deal with grammar, tense or other sentence structure?

I read a lot of books in english, and french helped, they are similar

As someone that grow in country where the main language doesnt really care about languange structure and learn english myself from reading and rarely speaking or writing i always feel that i doesnt have a capabilty to write a good sentence structure or in natural way.

You have to believe in yourself, my native language wasn't even recognized till 2011, it was just a spoken language, and AI doesn't even understand it,

Any tips to improve my english writing skill? Like maybe learn this part first the that part.

Read a lot, write a lot, and I'm not going to say don't use chatgpt, but avoid learning its style