Need help regarding dark and sensitive themes.

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I am writing a dark fantasy story and it contains themes such as slavery, cannibalism, child abuse, and psychological corruption.
These elements are not included for shock value, but to explore the moral and emotional decline of the characters and the world they inhabit.
If you choose to read the prologue, I would appreciate feedback on how these sensitive subjects were handled.
Whether they felt meaningful, excessive, restrained, or impactful. You can check it out here.
 

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To actually give you feedback, I enjoyed the prologue. It feels heavy. Every word had weight and its purpose for existing. For any dark topic the MOST important thing is empathy. You must understand and feel the victim's pain. Do your research looking into history, read the texts of slaves who survived. Look up what child abuse can do, and look at accounts. Understand them, and type out the pain.
 

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Arc 4: Rise of Tenzing, Trailer
A drop of blood, a group of militants taking out guns from duffel bags …
The scene cuts to a man with a clean shave and a neat hairstyle, wearing a tuxedo, who enters a building, a building named Hanson Industries.
Scene cuts, the same person with messy curly hair, a dark beard, he is wearing a white shirt, he is holding an axe dripping with cold blood, there are stains on his bloodied shirt, an army of men holding guns, cheering him in a damaged commercial area.
The scene cuts to an explosion, pieces of flesh falling on the ground, walls turning red, a traumatised husky, his blue eyes reflecting a killing so brutal that splinters of blood fell on his fur, the bearded man quoted while sitting on a couch, “ They killed my father, now I don’t kill them… I will erase them.”
Rapid cuts of him dodging a dagger, a young man wearing a suit, a burnt corpse, and at last he was washing his hands, a pool of blood stained the sink
Title drop Rise of Tenzing. Arc 4
Yes on a scale of 1 to 10
 

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Arc 4: Rise of Tenzing, Trailer
A drop of blood, a group of militants taking out guns from duffel bags …
The scene cuts to a man with a clean shave and a neat hairstyle, wearing a tuxedo, who enters a building, a building named Hanson Industries.
Scene cuts, the same person with messy curly hair, a dark beard, he is wearing a white shirt, he is holding an axe dripping with cold blood, there are stains on his bloodied shirt, an army of men holding guns, cheering him in a damaged commercial area.
The scene cuts to an explosion, pieces of flesh falling on the ground, walls turning red, a traumatised husky, his blue eyes reflecting a killing so brutal that splinters of blood fell on his fur, the bearded man quoted while sitting on a couch, “ They killed my father, now I don’t kill them… I will erase them.”
Rapid cuts of him dodging a dagger, a young man wearing a suit, a burnt corpse, and at last he was washing his hands, a pool of blood stained the sink
Title drop Rise of Tenzing. Arc 4

Yes on a scale of 1 to 10

Careful about hijacking someone else's thread, there. :blob_okay:

I am writing a dark fantasy story and it contains themes such as slavery, cannibalism, child abuse, and psychological corruption.
These elements are not included for shock value, but to explore the moral and emotional decline of the characters and the world they inhabit.
If you choose to read the prologue, I would appreciate feedback on how these sensitive subjects were handled.
Whether they felt meaningful, excessive, restrained, or impactful. You can check it out here.

Hey, may I ask you a question about this dialogue? I've noticed quite a few people now are doing this and I'm not sure why they create a break between the same character who's still speaking. See what I mean here?

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Pls rate it ? ?
Rate it or I will summon the husky of doom
You can get banned for this, it's against the forum rules.
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Okay, also can you rate the teaser on my post , I have stopped using ai to refine my grammer
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Arc 4: Rise of Tenzing, Trailer
A drop of blood, a group of militants taking out guns from duffel bags …
The scene cuts to a man with a clean shave and a neat hairstyle, wearing a tuxedo, who enters a building, a building named Hanson Industries.
Scene cuts, the same person with messy curly hair, a dark beard, he is wearing a white shirt, he is holding an axe dripping with cold blood, there are stains on his bloodied shirt, an army of men holding guns, cheering him in a damaged commercial area.
The scene cuts to an explosion, pieces of flesh falling on the ground, walls turning red, a traumatised husky, his blue eyes reflecting a killing so brutal that splinters of blood fell on his fur, the bearded man quoted while sitting on a couch, “ They killed my father, now I don’t kill them… I will erase them.”
Rapid cuts of him dodging a dagger, a young man wearing a suit, a burnt corpse, and at last he was washing his hands, a pool of blood stained the sink
Title drop Rise of Tenzing. Arc 4

Yes on a scale of 1 to 10
My guy, if you really need a feedback so bad, head to my blunt feedback thread.

Gonna make one just for you, and also other masochists.
 

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I am writing a dark fantasy story and it contains themes such as slavery, cannibalism, child abuse, and psychological corruption.
These elements are not included for shock value, but to explore the moral and emotional decline of the characters and the world they inhabit.
If you choose to read the prologue, I would appreciate feedback on how these sensitive subjects were handled.
Whether they felt meaningful, excessive, restrained, or impactful. You can check it out here.

First off? You weren't lying about the intent. Yeesh, this isn't edge for edge's sake here. You got a through-line of fear that's got teeth and it's hungry. Look at how it uses that fear as theology, as a political weapon, and as a psychological infection. That's pretty real for a theme, and that same theme sticks with Willbore, to Ananke, and to Aegis.

So what do I mean by real here? The cambion mines, the arena economy, and even the wager collectors? Those have structure to them. They ain't decorations, that's for sure. And what I mean by that is how they shape daily behavior. We got Neino's exhaustion, the threat of heads being used as candle holders, and the casual debt culture in the arena being ever present.

Now, as I said, it's real. But from what I have seen, it's not quite enough. Like, we don't linger inside the victims long enough before things escalate to the next spectacle. The mines? They get introduced, but we don't feel the rhythm of that suffering beyond conception. It sort of emotionally underdeveloped.

You got a meaningful foundation that feels real, but I definitely need some deeper immersion for it to fully hit me in the face. Now I don't mean to go more excessive. You got that already.

Here, let me break another moment down for you. Ananke's thoughts? You know, the intrusive ones?

Alright, the initiation goes well; it's ritualized, ideological, and humiliating. But the intrusive thoughts about his wife? It does communicate psychological corruption with the hunger overtaking his identity, but because it is jumping straight into something that is personal and grotesque, especially without a longer internal build-up, you're practically putting yourself at risk by presenting this as escalation for shock rather than The Descent.

Maybe slow down, let that hunger whisper a bit more before it starts screaming in our faces? More dawning devastation, less abrupt jump scare. Sound good? It's got an impactful concept, but in my opinion it is simply rushed at the peak moment.

You got the same going on with Neino too. Ananke hesitates, but that's like for a moment before the act, and that is so damn quick. Like the transition from paranoia to this violence and following it through to supernatural judgement is another case of abruptness. Like, think of it this way: the paranoia hits, Neino is grabbed, dead, oath broken.

That's the act.

Stuff like this, when you warn readers about it happening at some point, we're expect it to take our breath away like it got sucked out of the room or something. Instead it is a blink and you might miss who's being killed here.

Now, I ain't saying what you've written here is designed for shock-bait. It's actually... is operatic a word? Well, spellcheck didn't give me those red squiggly lines under it, so I guess it does exist. Back to the point, what you've got is compelling, rough in a good way, a tad heavy at some moments, but that heaviness is where the weight can be used to sink us down and gawk at how things have turned out. You just have to work a little more on the showing, not the telling.

There's more I could probably add in this, but I noticed someone else in your prologue dropped their own feedback. Listen to that. :blob_okay:
 

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Careful about hijacking someone else's thread, there. :blob_okay:



Hey, may I ask you a question about this dialogue? I've noticed quite a few people now are doing this and I'm not sure why they create a break between the same character who's still speaking. See what I mean here?

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Yeah i am a fairly new writer. I was kind of following the structure of other novels i read.
 

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Yeah i am a fairly new writer. I was kind of following the structure of other novels i read.

Figured as much, but what is the deal with that? Like... why? Why are they writing like that? Is this a new trend I missed out on?
 
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