How to write a certain scene?

KrakenRiderEmma

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Yes. If you didn't understand(I know my English isn't the best), how do you put it on paper? That's the point of this thread. How to write this.
I guess that paragraph I wrote is some of how I'd put it on paper, if I was writing in second person.

In third person, I would describe what the character who feels disgusted is experiencing, seeing, hearing, noticing. The thoughts they are having about how their attention is drawn to the process of chewing and tearing, grinding and juices, until they feel disgusted. The goal is to have the reader understand viscerally why the character is disgusted, so sensory detail, emotions, feelings of horror, or maybe mental comparisons relevant to the character ("when he tore into the flesh of the lamp chop, she couldn't help but be reminded of the way Ulric's head had split open under her axe"). Internal monologue is probably good for this. Even just "When you thought about it too much, eating was incredibly disgusting."
 

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I'm not sure I should ask this here or in other subforum, but whatever. Before I begin, I want to mention another thing. I don't need an answer immediately. Although I do plan to include such scenes in the future, it won't happen soon. So this is more of a discussion spurred by my curiosity.

With this out of the way, the scene itself. How to write an eating\dining scene that will make a reader disgusted without disgusting parts. What I mean by this, how to disgust a reader with eating scene, without using\including disgusting food(for example, maggot-infested food, or poop) or physically disgusting, repulsive characters? Basically, how to write a Denethor eating scene from LotR movie? I understand that you should probably show contrast, and focus on the personality of a character who should disgust while eating. Yet the technicalities, how exacty I should do it eludes me. So, if you can add a small example to your answer, it would be great.
“Her fingers delicately pinched off a flake of succulent, caramelized meat. Slowly, oddly slowly, she brought it up to her thinned lips.
She exhaled through the gamut of expressions her face ran through, the flake of meat hovering innocently.
Her gorge bulged as she tried to swallow, not that her cottoned mouth had any saliva to do so. It hurt so bad.
She attempted to swallow down yet again. A sharp, glass-like pain drawing down the inside of her throat.
The corners of her eyes, watering like a cut welling blood, strained painfully down as she stared at the flesh of the animal impaled on her silvered fork. Her arm seized and she dropped her fork with the nauseating meal onto the plate with a resounding, wince-worthy clatter.
She paled to a bone-white tone, only a green tinge and her shining tears coloring her excruciating mask of a sickeningly sweet smile.
She would have to pick it up all over again.
Pangs of pain struck her stomach with a gut-wrenching twist like the clang of the bells of hell.
Her eyes easily put a dead fish to shame, inhumanly glazed as she swiftly stuck the meal onto her tongue. Her innocent smile froze, for a second looking more like a visceral scream of horror.
She keeled off her chair, retching and coughing mixed with what oddly sounded like sobs.
She retched once. Then twice. All the while, she smashed her fist with revulsion into the ground she had become acquainted with.
 

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“Her fingers delicately pinched off a flake of succulent, caramelized meat. Slowly, oddly slowly, she brought it up to her thinned lips.
She exhaled through the gamut of expressions her face ran through, the flake of meat hovering innocently.
Her gorge bulged as she tried to swallow, not that her cottoned mouth had any saliva to do so. It hurt so bad.
She attempted to swallow down yet again. A sharp, glass-like pain drawing down the inside of her throat.
The corners of her eyes, watering like a cut welling blood, strained painfully down as she stared at the flesh of the animal impaled on her silvered fork. Her arm seized and she dropped her fork with the nauseating meal onto the plate with a resounding, wince-worthy clatter.
She paled to a bone-white tone, only a green tinge and her shining tears coloring her excruciating mask of a sickeningly sweet smile.
She would have to pick it up all over again.
Pangs of pain struck her stomach with a gut-wrenching twist like the clang of the bells of hell.
Her eyes easily put a dead fish to shame, inhumanly glazed as she swiftly stuck the meal onto her tongue. Her innocent smile froze, for a second looking more like a visceral scream of horror.
She keeled off her chair, retching and coughing mixed with what oddly sounded like sobs.
She retched once. Then twice. All the while, she smashed her fist with revulsion into the ground she had become acquainted with.
This isn't what I need. I'm a bit busy at the moment, so I can't explain. Can you look at other replies? There is an explanation of what I need in this thread.
 

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@forli @Jemini Do you have anything to add to the topic that hasn't been already mentioned in other replies?

Really, for eating scenes, it's actually not that hard to make it disgusting. Just describe it in an uncomfortable level of detail. That's really all you have to do.

Basically, do a written version of the opening to Dexter. Dexter opens with a close up of the MC's mouth as he's eating, and that's seriously half the opening. He's just eating normally, but it's INCREDIBLY uncomfortable.

What they did with Dexter there is they just keyed into a psychological peculiarity of humans. Watching a person eat and focusing in on the details of them eating really is just uncomfortable for some reason. We all do it, but it's something that when examined in detail becomes very cringe inducing.

Honestly, it's actually harder to write a detailed eating scene WITHOUT making the reader feel incredibly put off. Most writers do it by going WAY overboard on the positive adverbs like "divine" and "sumptious" and going into great detail about how fantastic the food is to a level where they make some ordinary food seem like the person's about to die from an eating-induced orgasm or something. The reason the writers wind up doing this is actually because if they don't the eating scene will actually become either boring or uncomfortable, or both.

Another common thing to avoid making eating scenes uncomfortable is to de-emphsise the food. It just doesn't describe the food or the eating of it in much detail and instead focuses in on the meal-time conversation.

So, if you want to make the audience feel grossed out from an eating scene, all you gotta do is just, well... not do any of those things that are usually put there to make the eating scene less uncomfortable. Just describe the eating of normal food in way too much detail. That's all you gotta do.
 

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Have you watched the eating scene from Spirited Away? Pretty disgusting even before they turned into pigs. Same principle. Sounds, manners, descriptions of the food, and table manners. Everything can be the drop that lets the glass called 'good taste (pun intended)' spill over and turn the scene from food porn to food horror.
 

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Revulsion and/or disapproval are what the writer is trying to evoke within the readers. Therefore, to begin, the writer should decide who or what they want the readers to feel disgusted towards. What aspect(s) of the character/object/events that evoke the unpleasant feelings?

In this case, eating, but it is neither the food nor the character’s behavior/physical aspects that are what’s disgusting. It certainly is a little tricky, as the two most obvious elements: food and character, are not to be the main focus. My idea is to make the situation, context and the meaning of the meal disgusting.

Yeah, illusive, here’s an example.
Yes, I know you said "a small example". I'm sorry, it is very long because I’m bad at building context with a short amount of words. ?

It has been three years since John had sneakily joined the enemy forces as a spy. It was an ultra-secret mission; not even his family was to be told of the truth. Serving under the enemy Lord, there’s not a single second that John didn't remind himself of what he was truly fighting for, and the atrocity this lord had brought to his home country.

Over these years, John’s brother Jim had become a captain of the army from his home country, just as John had risen in the enemy forces as the lord’s righthand man.

Jim never believed that his dear brother was a traitor to his home country, and had been seeking an opportunity to confront him in person for years.

One day, Jim was on a mission to transport a supply of food for his army. The enemy Lord knew of this delivery and handed the task of hijacking this supply to John.

The brothers meet for the first time in years, and Jim finally gets to confront John. Jim received a bullet to the head from John, instead of his answer.

John so wanted to tell Jim everything he had been through; he so wanted to explain why he had been doing all of this. Yet he couldn’t; he knew that the enemy Lord had planted eyes nearby to watch how he'd perform in this mission.

After John’s success, the enemy Lord held a lavish celebration banquet for it. John was to join, obviously. During the banquet, John sees a plethora of delicious meals comprised of hundreds of different ingredients, yet only the rice used what John had gotten from his brother. He suddenly understood: the enemy Lord never lacked food.

He had to do it because his home country was willing to sacrifice that little bit of food and soldiers' lives to plant a spy like himself on the enemy’s side; he had to do it because the enemy team knew that killing a blood relative was the best way to prove his loyalty to them.

Nevertheless, John ate; nevertheless, John smiled. He spoke on what an honor it was to serve under a Lord like that to every enemy present. The drinks were quenching, and the foods were great, but John found them as hard to swallow as clay.

If you find that enemy Lord or even the home country or the war between them was disgusting, then I think I've done my job.
(Open to feedback.)
I read more of your reply and, am sorry I misunderstood you back there.

To make the act of eating itself disgusting, with nothing wrong with the characters, and no one is triggered, is difficult to do even in video media. That Denethor eating scene from LotR movie example you used, placed a person singing but is constantly interrupted by Denethor’s magnified chewing voices. Viewers (not all) would rule on the side of the singer and (may) be like “Oh my god Denethor just eat like a normal person and stop interrupting the song! You disgusting potato!”

In writing, with descriptions alone, my take then is to just focus on the details, even if it feels improbable, of the eating process. It’d be better (I think) to focus on descriptions of fluids. Include anatomical terms if ever appropriate.

John takes a bite out of the stake; his saliva, thickened from hunger, is drawn out into a line from his tongue to his palate as he opens his mouth. The sticky line is broken when the chunk of meat is shoved in. His jaw smushes down, squeezing tiny drops of a mixture of his spit and the juice in the meat out through the spaces between his teeth.

John then has a piece of potato. It is much easier to mash than the beef. The veggie paste soon takes up any remaining space between John’s molars that the strips of meat couldn’t entirely fill up.

A drop of oil slips down the corner of his lips, dragging a trail of fat down John’s chin. He doesn’t notice; he is too busy enjoying his food. The drop eventually falls, landing directly in the spoonful of John’s next bite which he happily sends into his half-filled mouth without any hesitation.

Near the end of the meal, John raises the plate and begins shoveling the remaining juices and left-over smeared pastes onto his fleshy tongue. His chewing becomes more and more slurpy as his oral cavity hosts more and more watery contents. When the condition is right, a small bubble would even form under John’s tongue, only to be crushed into a squishy explosion of debris when he chews again.

After John finally finishes, he smacks his lips a few times in reminiscence of the tasty treat. He then reaches for the napkin with glistering fingers and wipes the remaining oil near his mouth into a crushed tissue.

I guess? I think that's normal enough, and I think that ain't very appetizing.
(Open to feedback)
 
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You are an experiecned author, maybe you can add something new, were my thoughts when I asked you.
Well, I was going to say to make the description of the eating very detailed and/or make something awful happen while the character is just eating as if nothing was wrong (since that's how the Denethor scene works).

But both of those things have been said already.
 

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Really, for eating scenes, it's actually not that hard to make it disgusting. Just describe it in an uncomfortable level of detail. That's really all you have to do.

Basically, do a written version of the opening to Dexter. Dexter opens with a close up of the MC's mouth as he's eating, and that's seriously half the opening. He's just eating normally, but it's INCREDIBLY uncomfortable.

What they did with Dexter there is they just keyed into a psychological peculiarity of humans. Watching a person eat and focusing in on the details of them eating really is just uncomfortable for some reason. We all do it, but it's something that when examined in detail becomes very cringe inducing.

Honestly, it's actually harder to write a detailed eating scene WITHOUT making the reader feel incredibly put off. Most writers do it by going WAY overboard on the positive adverbs like "divine" and "sumptious" and going into great detail about how fantastic the food is to a level where they make some ordinary food seem like the person's about to die from an eating-induced orgasm or something. The reason the writers wind up doing this is actually because if they don't the eating scene will actually become either boring or uncomfortable, or both.

Another common thing to avoid making eating scenes uncomfortable is to de-emphsise the food. It just doesn't describe the food or the eating of it in much detail and instead focuses in on the meal-time conversation.

So, if you want to make the audience feel grossed out from an eating scene, all you gotta do is just, well... not do any of those things that are usually put there to make the eating scene less uncomfortable. Just describe the eating of normal food in way too much detail. That's all you gotta do.


Just realized, why don't I just link the video of the opening I mentioned here?

Actually, the eating didn't take up as much of the scene as I remembered, but it's enough. Pretty much, you just have to describe a scene that gives the same "close-up" impression that this OP does.

 

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This is obviously disgusting, but it's not what I'm looking for. The point is to write a normal meal, but make it disgusting. The person's table manners can be bad, but not THAT bad, since it's the easy way to make readers disgusted and I don't need anyone's advice to write it.
Ahh so basically wat i said but way way smaller in detail and depth? Which makes sense
 

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I would read about how people experiencing sensory overload experience dining or those who can’t stand different textures, etc.
 
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