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nii07

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Here, can I get you to take a look at a new story that I'm working on.

 

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If you would be willing! Thank you so much for your time :blob_hide:
 

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this story has only one chapter yet

Endless War: Elementalist
RATING: Would not Keep Reading

The writing made it clear I wouldn't keep reading right off the bat, so let's just do some editing:

Firon, a curious 5-year-old, It's incredibly weak to stop your story just to tell us expository information like this. Especially if it's information that could be easily delivered through the text or information we simply don't need. played with his ball So "Firon played with his ball" is the core idea here, but it doesn't tell us much. What kind of ball, how was he playing, how near the woods? If you give us more info, then the audience's imagination gets to play along. I might think, 'oh, he's going to hit the ball into the woods and that's how the story starts.' And even if that doesn't happen that's okay, because you've engaged me in that one sentence. near the woods. Boredom struck, Don't just have things happe 'cause. It's never "And then character did XYZ". You need to write "Because this thing happened, character did XYZ." What you've constructed is completely aribtrary and doesn't amount to story telling. prompting him to venture into the forest despite his mother's warning. Like this. Quick way to set expectatations. As he explored, See how much better this reads if we delete that? Don't reestablish info, we know he's going through the woods. the vibrant flora and fauna captured his attention, making him oblivious to the increasing distance from home. Just kind of week. You could say something like: 'The further he got, the prettier it became". let your audience draw it's own conclusions. Lost in the beauty of nature, I think you're on the right track, but this is completely redundant with the previous sentence. Intorduce something new he can be interrupted with. Firon suddenly Bit of a filler word. Unless it was ongoing and he suddenly heard, but that doesn't appear to be your intent. heard distant cries. Concerned, he followed the sound until he reached the river. Why THE river? Is it special. Does he know it?; he shouldn't know it since you sesem to be saying he shouldn't be around these parts. There, he discovered a Once again, he's at the river. If you just say a girl wept on the other side, we understand that he is discovering it. girl weeping on the other side. "Hey, are you okay? Why are you crying?" Firon called out. Suspicion tinged the girl's reply, "Why do you ask, and who are you?" Really odd framing. He's the one lost in the woods, why is this girl suspicious. Also, it's framed on his perspective, why are we suddenly finding out what's in her head? Does the MC find her tone this way? Why would he think that?
Here, can I get you to take a look at a new story that I'm working on.

RATING: Middle of the Road so Would not Keep Readings

THE GOOD


I think you started off strong. The writing met the level and you had some characterization-- as a starting point, I understood who Damien was, his environment, and what he needed in life.

I also found the hook interesting. What I expected was a portal fantasy. Oh no, he's dead and in another world. But this promised to be a bit more interesting than that.

THE BAD

As things progressed, we quickly ran into some issues:

The characterication never progressed. In fact, you started repeating information. I know Damien is over worked and underapprciated. . . and then what. Either we need to advance these ideas with new tangents or to deepen them, or we can cut out the repitition.

The writing also got more clunky. There were sections that could be edited down, rephrased, punch up descriptions, etc.

If you would be willing! Thank you so much for your time :blob_hide:
RATING: Would not Keep Reading

The biggest issue here is that I didn't connect with anything. In a story that is presumptively heavy character based, we didn't get a lot of character work here. Little dialogue and most everything what conveyed through the MC's thoughts and circumstances-- most of which were not interesting.

Some of the writing got a little confusing. The big offender was two men were connected by a tightened fist. Had to reread the entire dream section with some context to get it.

And then pacing. This would probably be a different story if we had intersting or deep character beats, but I was just spending my time waiting for anything. I really wasn't sure what I was meant to connect to. Zhi was the only person remotely interesting, and that was by virtue of being active. In any other context the scene of him bursting into the bed room would have been overdone, but in this context I was glad to have somebody that wanted something and was working to get it.

OVERAL

Focus more on characters.
 
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nii07

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RATING: Middle of the Road so Would not Keep Readings

THE GOOD


I think you started off strong. The writing met the level and you had some characterization-- as a starting point, I understood who Damien was, his environment, and what he needed in life.

I also found the hook interesting. What I expected was a portal fantasy. Oh no, he's dead and in another world. But this promised to be a bit more interesting than that.

THE BAD

As things progressed, we quickly ran into some issues:

The characterication never progressed. In fact, you started repeating information. I know Damien is over worked and underapprciated. . . and then what. Either we need to advance these ideas with new tangents or to deepen them, or we can cut out the repitition.

The writing also got more clunky. There were sections that could be edited down, rephrased, punch up descriptions, etc.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Yeah, it's a bad writing habit of mine and I'm working on it. I'll go back and try to apply your suggestions when I'm rewriting some of the earlier chapters.
 

RemHydragrove

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RATING: Would not Keep Reading

The biggest issue here is that I didn't connect with anything. In a story that is presumptively heavy character based, we didn't get a lot of character work here. Little dialogue and most everything what conveyed through the MC's thoughts and circumstances-- most of which were not interesting.

Some of the writing got a little confusing. The big offender was two men were connected by a tightened fist. Had to reread the entire dream section with some context to get it.

And then pacing. This would probably be a different story if we had intersting or deep character beats, but I was just spending my time waiting for anything. I really wasn't sure what I was meant to connect to. Zhi was the only person remotely interesting, and that was by virtue of being active. In any other context the scene of him bursting into the bed room would have been overdone, but in this context I was glad to have somebody that wanted something and was working to get it.

OVERAL

Focus more on characters.
Thank you so much for the detailed reply! I totally understand the lack of things happening! ? This was written with the idea of long chapters, but I was quickly given the advice that shorter chapters do better!

I already had written 250,000 words in long format, so admittedly I didn't rewrite it, just gave it the chop. And thus, my chapter one is actually only 1/4 parts of my original first chapter.

I appreciate the response because I can focus on getting a little bit more done with chapter one and maybe push it forward a bit faster! Or at least add some more character sustenance if I cannot edit pacing.

? Thank you again, I appreciate the hard work!
 

TheTrinary

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Thank you so much for the detailed reply! I totally understand the lack of things happening! ? This was written with the idea of long chapters, but I was quickly given the advice that shorter chapters do better!

I already had written 250,000 words in long format, so admittedly I didn't rewrite it, just gave it the chop. And thus, my chapter one is actually only 1/4 parts of my original first chapter.

I appreciate the response because I can focus on getting a little bit more done with chapter one and maybe push it forward a bit faster! Or at least add some more character sustenance if I cannot edit pacing.

? Thank you again, I appreciate the hard work!
Story/chapter length can matter with some of the story telling, but the rate at which information is communicated shouldn't change all that much. On a very basic level, you need to be able to go paragraph by paragraph and be able to articulate what you're adding by having it there.
 

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Just read
 

RemHydragrove

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Story/chapter length can matter with some of the story telling, but the rate at which information is communicated shouldn't change all that much. On a very basic level, you need to be able to go paragraph by paragraph and be able to articulate what you're adding by having it there.
Alright, so I should do just that--go line by line and decide if its telling the reader anything of value. I can also add relevant stuff as I go. :blob_hide: Thank you again! I'll be editing a bit this week because of these responses.
I believe I have enough stuff happening throughout the first section, but it needs to be happening faster so the readers can cling to something more than abstract thought.
 
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