Enlightenment

[LunaSoltaer]

btw can I talk to you one day about transism? I'm planning to write a trans girl and it would be interesting to have a perspective from a trans girl in the flesh

Absolutely! You may want more perspectives than just mine because I've strayed off the beaten path a bunch.

Also I will personally lol at transism because I have my own beef with the mainstream communities but it WILL come off as insensitive unless you know exactly what the fuck you're doing.

I am not mad at you, in fact i am hearting this comment of yours. I just don't want to see you blindsided.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

You will shine with sparkles and come out with a new form and say your new name while making a pose

I'm going to try to do a Magical Girl transformation for my Monotone Puppet.
It dabs a flaming eyeball to its adorably smol cheeks with a flourish, like applying rouge. The toy pirouettes on its fluffy felt shoes/feet, a glowing white light spiking up in a pure transformative magic. Its black button eyes look out the onlookers with a mirthful glint, cutely bringing its fingerless hand up to its stitched mouth in adorable innocence. To the gasp of onlookers it leaps out over the gray concrete towards the carnivorous creatures, its black floofy hair lengthening into ebony veins branching delicately out behind it. Then it keels over, retching out a grey heart that settles against its patchwork quilt dress. Bland grey flame crawls leisurely across its chest, creating a slightly too big suit with pant legs and sleeves long enough that it looked like rather dapper PJs on the puppet, but it continues to walk inexorably to the dangerous demon dogs. Its purple beads turn into purple streamers trailing behind it along with the ebony veins like the fairy pokemon Sylveon, and finally, a marotte sparkles into the paw of The Monotone Puppet.

 

[dummycake]

it WILL come off as insensitive unless you know exactly what the fuck you're doing.

it's not like I would mind, in fact, I would ask you to be harsh if I did something insensitive or fucked up the character

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

it's not like I would mind, in fact, I would ask you to be harsh if I did something insensitive or fucked up the character

You're pretty Stars-darned cool. *laid-back hippie nod of approval*

 

[BlackKnightX]

I used to feel like that all the time. Yes, all the time. Since the moment I started reading novels for the first time up until about a year ago, I always felt deep connection with the character when I read. Every single time.

I believe I even posted about this on this forum some time ago. It went something like, there are two types of readers, the spectator and the participant; I'm the participant, something like that.

You can basically call it a self-insert. No matter what I read, I become a character and experience everything the character experiences. Literally. Even if the character does something not acceptable by the society standard, I would find it justifiable because I know how the character feels and why he does what he does. And yes, it's an ecstasy. A complete euphoria.

Now, I said I used to because nowadays I don't feel that way anymore. I suspected stress before, but I've come to realize that's not really it. Maybe I have matured once again. My worldview has changed. I'm more grounded now, almost zen-like. I don't find much enjoyment in escapism like I used to. Nowadays, when I read, I'm more like an observer, seeing the character from the outside perspective. I'm more picky when it comes to what character I would allow myself to insert into.

 

[dummycake]

You're pretty Stars-darned cool. *laid-back hippie nod of approval*

Hehe... not really... *blushes*

I don't find much enjoyment in escapism like I used to

Me too, maybe that's why I don't enjoy Fantasy LitRPGs anymore.
"If you reincarnated where would you go?" Can I stay home, please? I don't want to fight monsters, I want to watch TV and eat fast food.

 

[LunaSoltaer]

Hehe... not really... *blushes*

Imma second the puppet here.

See, random audience member viewing this comedic drama? THIS IS WHY YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE!!!!

That way we have more awesomeness and less... I'm going to cut off my rant here.

Ill think of some books to recommend you just so you get an idea of the different perspectives that are out there... Let me come up with a list, which i will largely base off of what ive been recommended, but I can definitely say that LilliannaWinter's Astraology is top of that list.

Charisma is a good exploration of how someone can use humour to put on a smile when everything is kaput.

There's my own book, Solstice, which is really only on the list so you get an idea of my own experiences/etc.

 

[dummycake]

Imma second the puppet here.

See, random audience member viewing this comedic drama? THIS IS WHY YOU FORGIVE PEOPLE!!!!

That way we have more awesomeness and less... I'm going to cut off my rant here.

Ill think of some books to recommend you just so you get an idea of the different perspectives that are out there... Let me come up with a list, which i will largely base off of what ive been recommended, but I can definitely say that LilliannaWinter's Astraology is top of that list.

Charisma is a good exploration of how someone can use humour to put on a smile when everything is kaput.

There's my own book, Solstice, which is really only on the list so you get an idea of my own experiences/etc.

I will definitely check it out!!
I don't really like LGBT novels focused only on the LGBT part. I want it to be a normal thing, not a tag, you know? But that's eons away from being the norm. We have to tag it for people to see and others to avoid. I just wish it was something we didn't have to do.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

I used to feel like that all the time. Yes, all the time. Since the moment I started reading novels for the first time up until about a year ago, I always felt deep connection with the character when I read. Every single time.

I believe I even posted about this on this forum some time ago. It went something like, there are two types of readers, the speculator and a participant; I'm the participant, something like that.

You can basically call it a self-insert. No matter what I read, I become a character and experience everything the character experiences. Literally. Even if the character does something not acceptable by the society standard, I would find it justifiable because I know how the character feels and why he does what he does. And yes, it's an ecstasy. A complete euphoria.

Now, I said I used to because nowadays I don't feel that way anymore. I suspected stress before, but I've come to realize that's not really it. Maybe I have matured once again. My worldview has changed. I'm more grounded now, almost zen-like. I don't find much enjoyment in escapism like I used to. Nowadays, when I read, I'm more like an observer, seeing the character from the outside perspective. I'm more picky when it comes to what character I would allow myself to insert myself into.

The joy of childhood, being able to live it once more. Being such a malleable being when you are younger, there is less of a defined world view. You can and will freely adopt every emotion you get your hands.
Dang. It's all so... SAD!
What you are mentioning is definitely a kinder, more gentle version of the enlightenment I have been discussing (and is reader-based rather than writer-based). Had completely forgotten about that aspect. I still feel it. I don't think I will ever lose it. There's just something too special about holding onto it, too integral to me as a person, that I can't relinquish it unless I tried to.

I will definitely check it out!!
I don't really like LGBT novels focused only on the LGBT part. I want it to be a normal thing, not a tag, you know? But that's eons away from being the norm. We have to tag it for people to see and others to avoid. I just wish it was something we didn't have to do.

I fully agree. As you've said, the circumstances don't allow it, and as you've said, it'd be nice if it was just normal.

I can promise that my novel is definitely not only focused on the LGBT+ part. As novels go with such elements, I like to think it is... relatively subtle???
Hey Luna. Am I talking out my tushie when I say it's subtle?

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Why are vampires and werewolves mortal enemies anyway?

BS made up by dummies.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

BS made up by dummies.

My guess is that those dummies are horny people divided by furry fetish and biting fetish.

 

[LunaSoltaer]

I will definitely check it out!!
I don't really like LGBT novels focused only on the LGBT part. I want it to be a normal thing, not a tag, you know? But that's eons away from being the norm. We have to tag it for people to see and others to avoid. I just wish it was something we didn't have to do.

I assure you right now all three books have a central plot that's workable without trans or nb elements, though the worldbuilding probably would have had to change.

Mine is probably the darkest of the three, however. It was forged from a time when I was less than healthy, but I will see it through to the end.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

My guess is that those dummies are horny people divided by furry fetish and biting fetish.

That is why the middlemen had a solution of lycanpires. They got off to both.

 

[dummycake]

I can promise that my novel is definitely not only focused on the LGBT+ part. As novels go with such elements, I like to think it is... relatively subtle???

Mine the first 4 characters are gay. Girl-Girl and Boy-Boy. Still, it's not about that they're the same sex, it's about them as humans not them as tags.
It just sucks that people will shy away because there's a GL tag and they only like BL, and vice versa.

 

[LunaSoltaer]

That is why the middlemen had a solution of lycanpires. They got off to both.

*holds up a kitteh*

 

[dummycake]

BS made up by dummies.

I didn't do anything

 

[LunaSoltaer]

Mine the first 4 characters are gay. Girl-Girl and Boy-Boy. Still, it's not about that they're the same sex, it's about them as humans not them as tags.
It just sucks that people will shy away because there's a GL tag and they only like BL, and vice versa.

You can also blame a lot of... lets call them stereotype mining writers who, um, dont exactly write them the best.

People can and have ruined genres or reading as a whole for people.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

Mine the first 4 characters are gay. Girl-Girl and Boy-Boy. Still, it's not about that they're the same sex, it's about them as humans not them as tags.
It just sucks that people will shy away because there's a GL tag and they only like BL, and vice versa.

I know right?! They are people!
I could have put a GL tag, but I just did not have enough space for a tag that is based on a fleeting second of romance, and a queer relationship that doesn't quite fall under GL anyway. It just is not relevant enough compared to any of the other tags I have.

 

[dummycake]

People can and have ruined genres or reading as a whole for people.

And stereotypes.
If it's a lesbian movie, there's softcore porn.
If it's a lesbian woman, they fuck a lot of girls.
If it's a bisexual character they fuck everyone all the time.

 

[TheMonotonePuppet]

You can also blame a lot of... lets call them stereotype mining writers who, um, dont exactly write them the best.

People can and have ruined genres or reading as a whole for people.

Truth! Or as the actual Monotone Puppet would say, beautiful lies!

And stereotypes.
If it's a lesbian movie, there's softcore porn.
If it's a lesbian woman, they fuck a lot of girls.
If it's a bisexual character they fuck everyone all the time.

Yeah. The stereotypes can get reeeally bad.