Does this weapon design sound bad to anyone?

[Deleted member 54065]

But then again, I just realized...aren't pole weapons meant to pierce or break the armor of an opponent? If so, then the counterweight could prove a disadvantage since you need a pole weapon's full crashing power at the first strike.

 

[Asami_Shirogane]

Sounds more like a halberd hybrid if you ask me. Since scimitar are utilized as a single edged weapon.

Edit* Now that I think about it, it might be more of a sickle type of weapon.

 

[NotaNuffian]

I think it's a good weapon then. Just make your character physically powerful to match his weapon stats.

And of course, his fighting style should be more on the 'berserk' side, since the counterweight could also present a risk to his comrades in a tight formation.

Yup, this is a long reach weapon that forces solo play as well as outdoor battles because most corridors can't fit its wild swings.

Unless the MC is cool af and slices and smashes the rooms as well.

If you think that is long the Polish, Winged Hussars had six meter long lances that they used in their cavalry charges.

Yup, but those are highly specialised weapons. As OP said, he plans his MC to use the 2.4m pole for ground combat as well...

 

[CarburetorThompson]

I like the idea of having the metal over the wood. It’s something that would never work irl, unless you used glue or pinned the metal to the wood, both of which aren’t really effective. Though I imagine that in what I assume is a fantasy world there is probably extremely durable wood and advanced/magical blacksmithing techniques, so I think it is fine and a neat way to make a weapon out of a heavy material.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

@2021 The user is from a group called the Swalli whose entire economic system is based on spearman, deep-sea fishing, and naval transport. Most of them are ripped and tall. @Nairo Hardened wood is an awesome and underutilized weapon @NotaNuffian It is definitely heavy and slow so it is mainly used for cavalry attacks. However, it was supposed to be used as a heavy slashing weapon on the ground. Zero defense but a lot of power. Cannot be used in close quarters such as corridors @CarburetorThompson I wanted to sharpen the back edge so that it would act more like a scythe during a cavalry charge. However, if the shaft is broken then it could be used as a classic scimitar. There are also plenty of real-life examples of coating wood with metal to make a lightweight weapon. However, they aren't very dependable due to the metal cracking.

 

[Reborn_Cat]

alright.

Yeah, that's why I wanted to have it layered over wood. Thus, making it lighter. However, it would still be heavy. Which is why it needs the counterweight. Though it probably wouldn't work to use tungsten anyways. Maybe steel would be better?

If it is a fantasy story, you could probably get away with using a fantasy alloy also the image of the weapon feels like this but with a longer shaft

But then again, I just realized...aren't pole weapons meant to pierce or break the armor of an opponent? If so, then the counterweight could prove a disadvantage since you need a pole weapon's full crashing power at the first strike.

Aren't they more for the range so they can be used easily on horseback and stuff like that

 

[Representing_Tromba]

Sounds more like a halberd hybrid if you ask me. Since scimitar are utilized as a single edged weapon.

Edit* Now that I think about it, it might be more of a sickle.

It was kind of both. like a sickle halberd with a counterweight to make it easier to manuever.

 

[NotaNuffian]

But then again, I just realized...aren't pole weapons meant to pierce or break the armor of an opponent? If so, then the counterweight could prove a disadvantage since you need a pole weapon's full crashing power at the first strike.

The counterbalance is for better control over the weapon. If Paul says shits like only one end has a heavy head, I will berate him on that as even halberds are not as heavy as you think.

I understand your concern being the counterbalance unfucks the centre point of the weapon (axe has a higher Centre of Gravity and therefore really good for bringing the weight down) and thus makes the armor piercing improbable. But when he decided to put a scimitar instead of a pick, I already throw the armor piercing out of the window.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

@2021 The user is from a group called the Swalli whose entire economic system is based on spearman, deep-sea fishing, and naval transport. Most of them are ripped and tall. @Nairo Hardened wood is an awesome and underutilized weapon @NotaNuffian It is definitely heavy and slow so it is mainly used for cavalry attacks. However, it was supposed to be used as a heavy slashing weapon on the ground. Zero defense but a lot of power. Cannot be used in close quarters such as corridors @CarburetorThompson I wanted to sharpen the back edge so that it would act more like a scythe during a cavalry charge. However, if the shaft is broken then it could be used as a classic scimitar. There are also plenty of real-life examples of coating wood with metal to make a lightweight weapon. However, they aren't very dependable due to the metal cracking.

You could get more ideas on a similar weapon, the falx.

Long, scythe-like blade for slashing through armors.

 

[NotaNuffian]

@2021 The user is from a group called the Swalli whose entire economic system is based on spearman, deep-sea fishing, and naval transport. Most of them are ripped and tall. @Nairo Hardened wood is an awesome and underutilized weapon @NotaNuffian It is definitely heavy and slow so it is mainly used for cavalry attacks. However, it was supposed to be used as a heavy slashing weapon on the ground. Zero defense but a lot of power. Cannot be used in close quarters such as corridors @CarburetorThompson I wanted to sharpen the back edge so that it would act more like a scythe during a cavalry charge. However, if the shaft is broken then it could be used as a classic scimitar. There are also plenty of real-life examples of coating wood with metal to make a lightweight weapon. However, they aren't very dependable due to the metal cracking.

So a war sickle?

 

[Representing_Tromba]

The counterbalance is for better control over the weapon. If Paul says shits like only one end has a heavy head, I will berate him on that as even halberds are not as heavy as you think.

I understand your concern being the counterbalance unfucks the centre point of the weapon (axe has a higher Centre of Gravity and therefore really good for bringing the weight down) and thus makes the armor piercing improbable. But when he decided to put a scimitar instead of a pick, I already throw the armor piercing out of the window.

Alright. This is good to think about. It was less about piercing than slashing but I wanted it to be useful on the ground as well as with calvary so I thought a counterweight would help.

 

[Deleted member 54065]

If it is a fantasy story, you could probably get away with using a fantasy alloy also the image of the weapon feels like this but with a longer shaft
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Aren't they more for the range so they can be used easily on horseback and stuff like that

Yeah, I mean, the way you kill enemies with pole weapons. Pierce the armor, or break it to incapacitate the armored foe.

 

[Representing_Tromba]

So a war sickle?

yeah, a long war sickle basically.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Alright. This is good to think about. It was less about piercing than slashing but I wanted it to be useful on the ground as well as with calvary so I thought a counterweight would help.

I agree though, since the curved point is basically shit for stabbing spear move while the flair end is used as a hammer/ club.

But here is my thought, don't need to spike the end.

 

[2021]

So a war sickle?

War scythe

 

[Reborn_Cat]

If they are naval then bone weapons also work great, I imagine they can hunt large sea creatures for their bones and stuff

 

[Representing_Tromba]

I agree though, since the curved point is basically shit for stabbing spear move while the flair end is used as a hammer/ club.

But here is my thought, don't need to spike the end.

alright

 

[Deleted member 54065]

 

[Lloyd]

Yeah it would break very easily

 

[Representing_Tromba]

If they are naval then bone weapons also work great, I imagine they can hunt large sea creatures for their bones and stuff

They did in the past. Though since the rest of the continent started trading with them they started using metals rather than bones.

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Thank you for the reference. You are a very diligent teacher.

Yeah it would break very easily

That seems to be the consensus.