Average Growth for New Series

[nahyesq]

What is the average views, readers, and favorites growth for a new series to be launched? If we're focusing on the Fanfic Type of Market instead of original webnovel series.

Because I've been looking into some of the peeps here who writes have a random amount of views, readers and etc. Some are lower, and some are higher than the others. While I, not to mean to flex but, got about 1.9k views, 47 favorites and 42 readers in the past of 4 days. Granted maybe I wrote something that's rare or even barely made on this website because I climbed to Rank 2 on the Fandom tag due to there's only 3 related fanfic about it so there might be some demands regarding the fic? I don't know.

But what I'm really interested is to know other authors ratio or growth daily to give me a general idea whats a good growth or a bad growth for this website weird algorithm. That's all I'm asking and thank you in advance!

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Your growth is low compared to novels with popular genres\tags. I can't get you the specific numbers, though.

 

[LostLibrarian]

It's more or less on the lower half of average.
Though you should look at readers/chapter more than readers/day.
Or if you want to go by work... words/reader.

It depends a bit on your target audience and the tags you use, but for "non-popular"-tags, 3 readers/chapter is a good average value for long-running series, but a bit low for a new series. Especially as the beginning often sees more activity (new series frontpage), before it gets lower with some peaks when you hit frontpage-trending. The frontpage is where you'll get a lot of new readers later and what will raise up the average...

One reason might be the high-amount of chapters/day, another the tags you have.
Though I would also say: don't worry about numbers at the start. There isn't much meaning to them too early.
The interesting numbers are when you hit trending and how much you get out of it...

 

[Agentt]

What is the average views, readers, and favorites growth for a new series to be launched? If we're focusing on the Fanfic Type of Market instead of original webnovel series.

Because I've been looking into some of the peeps here who writes have a random amount of views, readers and etc. Some are lower, and some are higher than the others. While I, not to mean to flex but, got about 1.9k views, 47 favorites and 42 readers in the past of 4 days. Granted maybe I wrote something that's rare or even barely made on this website because I climbed to Rank 2 on the Fandom tag due to there's only 3 related fanfic about it so there might be some demands regarding the fic? I don't know.

But what I'm really interested is to know other authors ratio or growth daily to give me a general idea whats a good growth or a bad growth for this website weird algorithm. That's all I'm asking and thank you in advance!

That's mostly rng based because most of your readers are gonna come through the latest series bar, but if it so happens that many people upload at the same time you did, it gets burried,

Your best bet is to publicise it here after that.


And let's see,
I'll place it at 10 readers, considering your genre isn't isekai or smut.
This doesn't mean that mystery doesn't strive well, but since isekai has MC killing a bear in chapter 1, and smut has a sex scene in chapter 1 as well, the lack of clickbait kinda narrows you down

 

[KiraMinoru]

if you had popular tags it wouldn’t be strange to see around 200 readers in as low as 4 chapters for an original.

 

[LostLibrarian]

if you had popular tags it wouldn’t be strange to see around 200 readers in as low as 4 chapters for an original.

Though a lot of those "popular early" stories also plateau faster.
A lot of less popular stories (by tags) will achieve the same height (or even more) over time with constant growth.

Which is why the first 2,3 times on the trending list are a better indicator for "growth potential" compared to "a lot of people clicked on the smut story with the waifu cover". After you get to 30/40 chapters, one or two new, really active readers are all you need to hit trending for the first time. Afterwards, one can see whether it shows "+10", "+50", or "+100" after a day of trending...

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Though a lot of those "popular early" stories also plateau faster.
A lot of less popular stories (by tags) will achieve the same height (or even more) over time with constant growth.

 

[nahyesq]

It's more or less on the lower half of average.
Though you should look at readers/chapter more than readers/day.
Or if you want to go by work... words/reader.

It depends a bit on your target audience and the tags you use, but for "non-popular"-tags, 3 readers/chapter is a good average value for long-running series, but a bit low for a new series. Especially as the beginning often sees more activity (new series frontpage), before it gets lower with some peaks when you hit frontpage-trending. The frontpage is where you'll get a lot of new readers later and what will raise up the average...

One reason might be the high-amount of chapters/day, another the tags you have.
Though I would also say: don't worry about numbers at the start. There isn't much meaning to them too early.
The interesting numbers are when you hit trending and how much you get out of it...

I'm currently sitting on 42 readers at 14 chapters in. This is because i dumped the first 5 chapters on the 1st day, and then post 2-3 chapters so on so that i could catch up with the same chapter updates on the other sites with here. So that's why i have 14 Chapters in 4 day and of course this is a long running series which i have saved a lot of chapters that i will post later.

So it's a normal growth for a new series with a rare fanfic eh. I mean not that I'm complaining or talking bad about SH but I got around 10k+ per day readers on the other site where i posted the same fic. Though I'm not complaining if SH had a slow start compared that site, I just wanted to expand my audience regarding this fic so that i could have a large readerbase. That's all hshshshs.

That's mostly rng based because most of your readers are gonna come through the latest series bar, but if it so happens that many people upload at the same time you did, it gets burried,

Your best bet is to publicise it here after that.


And let's see,
I'll place it at 10 readers, considering your genre isn't isekai or smut.
This doesn't mean that mystery doesn't strive well, but since isekai has MC killing a bear in chapter 1, and smut has a sex scene in chapter 1 as well, the lack of clickbait kinda narrows you down

Is there any telling on when are the average authors be posting their new chapters so that I didn't get buried? hshshsh, I'm using GMT +7 and i post it around 9PM due to i have work and college so thats the best i could do to post updates.

Aww that sucks, just for you information these are the tags i'm using
Action Adventure Fanfiction Fantasy Horror Mystery Psychological Sci-fi Supernatural
and as for the tags
Ability Steal Adventurers Alternate World Apocalypse Cheats Confident Protagonist Confinement Evil Organizations Gods Hiding True Abilities Monsters Mutated Creatures Mysterious Past Overpowered Protagonist Parallel Worlds Protagonist Strong from the Start Saving the World Secret Organizations Souls Special Abilities Strong to Stronger Time Travel Transported into Another World World Travel

Now this really does put my mind at confused state, because my story is about a person that was thrown into a fictional world for some reason and now he has to live and survive in it. Now, does this counts as Isekai or not? Because my view of Isekai is like, you died and then you reincarnated to a new world. While mine's is just thrown into another timeline/world where stuff exists.

Another thing to note i'm not sure if Fantasy falls in the category also, since my view of Fantasy is like RPG, Medieval stuff while this is an Urban or Modern setting? But there are monster and weird creatures so with that doubt i picked Fantasy. So, is it better to switch Fantasy with Isekai or switch another tags with Isekai/another popular tags if its fitting with the fic story?

 

[LostLibrarian]

It's my personal experience. I took an eternity to get the first 100 readers, now I sit at a more decent number and there were a lot of "smut"-stories (I only did it for smut back then because it was a discussion in another topic) that had worse words/reader-ratio although they had a better start.


From back then:

Honestly, smut gets readers a lot faster, but you'll get readers with nearly everything that has at least some appealing tags/genres. It'll only take longer. I have no harem/gl/gb/smut or sexual content in the tags and ~660 readers in 75k words. Could have been more if not for muliple times of hiatus (before that I was trending multiple times without doing anything special) or if I could actually write better...

Just looking roughly over it there are around 700 smut stories with a word count of 75k or below. From those, 30 or so are clearly better and a handful is doing just as my story. My story, without any of those tags, and sadly probably more weeks in hiatus than being written. Would I just take those weeks and add the small growth I get with each chapter, the number of smut stories above mine would probably be 15-20. Which is probably true for most genre tags here.

Girls love or gender bender might have a different ratio and dominate my story more, but at least the early smut-peak reaches a plateau after a really strong beginning where they are far ahead... and my story isn't anywhere near the top either.

 

[greyblob]

What is the average views, readers, and favorites growth for a new series to be launched? If we're focusing on the Fanfic Type of Market instead of original webnovel series.

Because I've been looking into some of the peeps here who writes have a random amount of views, readers and etc. Some are lower, and some are higher than the others. While I, not to mean to flex but, got about 1.9k views, 47 favorites and 42 readers in the past of 4 days. Granted maybe I wrote something that's rare or even barely made on this website because I climbed to Rank 2 on the Fandom tag due to there's only 3 related fanfic about it so there might be some demands regarding the fic? I don't know.

But what I'm really interested is to know other authors ratio or growth daily to give me a general idea whats a good growth or a bad growth for this website weird algorithm. That's all I'm asking and thank you in advance!

40 readers for 2k views is decent imo. I think scp is pretty underrated

It's my personal experience. I took an eternity to get the first 100 readers, now I sit at a more decent number and there were a lot of "smut"-stories (I only did it for smut back then because it was a discussion in another topic) that had worse words/reader-ratio although they had a better start.


From back then:


Girls love or gender bender might have a different ratio and dominate my story more, but at least the early smut-peak reaches a plateau after a really strong beginning where they are far ahead...

I feel like cliche popular tags novel burn out faster. I have seen it happen a few times. below average novel has popular tags > gets a lot of attention > its flaws are pointed out > gets bad reviews > author quits, goes on hiatus, or new readers are discouraged. that and smut novels have low life expectancy.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

It's my personal experience. I took an eternity to get the first 100 readers, now I sit at a more decent number and there were a lot of "smut"-stories (I only did it for smut back then because it was a discussion in another topic) that had worse words/reader-ratio although they had a better start.


From back then:


Girls love or gender bender might have a different ratio and dominate my story more, but at least the early smut-peak reaches a plateau after a really strong beginning where they are far ahead...

This is a survival bias, no? You don't have stats on all the stories. You also don't consider trending, which is random. And even if you think that you figured trending, you won't be able to convince me with simple words like: "trust me, I know." There is also a sticky on the side of NU that promotes random stories, and it gives you a boost as well. There are probably other things that I forgot to mention that allow those 'less popular stories' to achieve the same result as smut.

 

[LostLibrarian]

This is a survival bias, no?

No. It is a simple "Don't stop because some trendy trag is far ahead at the beginning".
Because a lot of those stories who started way ahead of me didn't stay there.

And yeah, it is just against my own story. But my story also isn't anything special, so any decent story should have the potential for a similar development. Whether that is through trending, constant work, or luck...

 

[RepresentingWrath]

"Don't stop because some trendy trag is far ahead at the beginning".

I agree with this statement and won't continue this dialogue. I don't agree with other things you say, you won't agree with what I have to say, and we won't be able to convince each other. Have a good day.

 

[ThockyKeyboard]

What is the average views, readers, and favorites growth for a new series to be launched? If we're focusing on the Fanfic Type of Market instead of original webnovel series.

Because I've been looking into some of the peeps here who writes have a random amount of views, readers and etc. Some are lower, and some are higher than the others. While I, not to mean to flex but, got about 1.9k views, 47 favorites and 42 readers in the past of 4 days. Granted maybe I wrote something that's rare or even barely made on this website because I climbed to Rank 2 on the Fandom tag due to there's only 3 related fanfic about it so there might be some demands regarding the fic? I don't know.

But what I'm really interested is to know other authors ratio or growth daily to give me a general idea whats a good growth or a bad growth for this website weird algorithm. That's all I'm asking and thank you in advance!

Hmm, I think you're doing good compared to me. I've also started posting my story here starting Feb 1. (but then again it's technically Feb 2 since it was 2 hours away from Feb 2.)

I also have the famous tag GB/GL/BL/slice of life/Isekai/Fantasy/Adventure (Why the hell do you have these tags?! Someone probably wondering, well when your characters can change their genders anytime they want...) attached and so far I've gained around 23 readers, 200+ valid reads, 15 favorites (someone spammed like), and 0 comments (this is natural for SH, the reader-san around these parts are silent but deadly, all of a sudden someone dropped a one star knife in your story). I've published 7 chapters so far and my word count us consistent at 1k.

I don't know how the people in SH works but in RR the reader-san really love word counts. Even the moderator said it themselves. That's why even if you have a badly written story as long as your word count is huge and you upload it in one week time, there's a chance you'll get to the front page. This actually happened recently to a story, and boy the reviews there were hot!!!

Point is if you want more readers consistency is one of the key. Why do you think NU forces their writers to consistently write and upload? Cause it brings in reader-san, more reader-san means more money to 'em money wh0r3 company.

Ah, sorry am projecting and got carried away... (ㆁᴗㆁ✿)

 

[Agentt]

there any telling on when are the average authors be posting their new chapters so that I didn't get buried? hshshsh, I'm using GMT +7 and i post it around 9PM due to i have work and college so thats the best i could do to post updates.

Aww that sucks, just for you information these are the tags i'm using
Action Adventure Fanfiction Fantasy Horror Mystery Psychological Sci-fi Supernatural
and as for the tags
Ability Steal Adventurers Alternate World Apocalypse Cheats Confident Protagonist Confinement Evil Organizations Gods Hiding True Abilities Monsters Mutated Creatures Mysterious Past Overpowered Protagonist Parallel Worlds Protagonist Strong from the Start Saving the World Secret Organizations Souls Special Abilities Strong to Stronger Time Travel Transported into Another World World Travel

Now this really does put my mind at confused state, because my story is about a person that was thrown into a fictional world for some reason and now he has to live and survive in it. Now, does this counts as Isekai or not? Because my view of Isekai is like, you died and then you reincarnated to a new world. While mine's is just thrown into another timeline/world where stuff exists.

Another thing to note i'm not sure if Fantasy falls in the category also, since my view of Fantasy is like RPG, Medieval stuff while this is an Urban or Modern setting? But there are monster and weird creatures so with that doubt i picked Fantasy. So, is it better to switch Fantasy with Isekai or switch another tags with Isekai/another popular tags if its fitting with the fic story?

Those do include isekai, yes.


And if there was a time where an average authors would post, i would imagine they would stop doing it...


Don't worry about it much, like others say, it will take a while, but you surely will rise

I don't know how the people in SH works but in RR the reader-san really love word counts. Even the moderator said it themselves. That's why even if you have a badly written story as long as your word count is huge and you upload it in one week time, there's a chance you'll get to the front page. This actually happened recently to a story, and boy the reviews there were hot

Here, readers like more of a 1.5k-2k words story, so meh

 

[ThockyKeyboard]

Here, readers like more of a 1.5k-2k words story, so meh

I think this is how much words most readers are expecting authors to write even in other websites, normally, unless the author has amazing hands and could type 3k a day. Like Zogarth that person must've eaten a keyboard cake or something.

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

What is the average views, readers, and favorites growth for a new series to be launched? If we're focusing on the Fanfic Type of Market instead of original webnovel series.

Because I've been looking into some of the peeps here who writes have a random amount of views, readers and etc. Some are lower, and some are higher than the others. While I, not to mean to flex but, got about 1.9k views, 47 favorites and 42 readers in the past of 4 days. Granted maybe I wrote something that's rare or even barely made on this website because I climbed to Rank 2 on the Fandom tag due to there's only 3 related fanfic about it so there might be some demands regarding the fic? I don't know.

But what I'm really interested is to know other authors ratio or growth daily to give me a general idea whats a good growth or a bad growth for this website weird algorithm. That's all I'm asking and thank you in advance!

Depends, but my series of that name gets no growth

 

[Psycholor]

Because my view of Isekai is like, you died and then you reincarnated to a new world. While mine's is just thrown into another timeline/world where stuff exists.

Isekai literally just means "Other world".

There are two main types, with a few sub types.

1. Reincarnation: The Isekai target has died and is reincarnated to another world.
   1. FromZero: Reincarnee born again as a baby. (Mushoku Tensei, Saga of Tanya the Evil)
   2. Recovered memories: Reincarnee recovers their memories at a later point in life, often after a head injury. (My next life as a villainess. All routes lead to doom!)
   3. Transfer-Lite: Reincarnee simply appears in the world in their new body at a specific age. (Tensei Shitara Slime, Deathmarch)
2. Transmigration: The Isekai target does not die, and simply transfers to the other world.
   1. Summoning: The Transferee is summoned, often as a hero to fight the demon lord or some bullshit. (Shield Hero, Arifureta)
   2. Spirited Away: The Transferee falls through a rift/get's on the wrong bus/otherwise accidentally leaves their world. (Digimon, Spirited Away)
   3. Two-way trip: The transferee can freely come and go between the diffirent world(s) and their own. (GATE: Thus The JSDF Fought There!, Arifureta: After Story) Thank you for reminding me, @CubicleHermit
3. Bonus: Isekai isn't real: The other world isn't real/the isekai target never left their original world. (Sword Art Online, Bofuri)

 

[CubicleHermit]

There's also a subtype of Transmigration where the other world is real, but it's not automatically a one-way trip - stuff like GATE, or Outbreak Company (also really common enough in western fantasy literature to have a subgenre of "portal fantasy.")