Anyone ever launch the idea of coordination amongst authors here?

[laccoff_mawning]

worthless here, sure.

Exactly my point. This forum? It's Scribblehub forums. And for 'here', these things are worthless.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

Though I've heard he did not actually say it, I like the quote allegedly from Groucho Marx: "I would never join any group that would have me as a member."

 

[Nolff]

Though I've heard he did not actually say it, I like the quote allegedly from Groucho Marx: "I would never join any group that would have me as a member."

Literally me and probably other people, lmao. I won't lie, I'd probably like it more if I have authority over others. Yes, that means trolling will exist. And yes, I'd be someone horrendous to be seen holding authority.

 

[Alski]

Serious question

why.
do.
you.
type.
like.
this.

 

[tiaf]

Idk. I

Hey, you in agreement with my assessment on Yuri Garden being territorial?

have no experience with their operations or NUF.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

we have three choices...
we can hate and review bomb each other (retarded) (this? is what my *last* site does. Idiots.)
we can do *nothing*, which is pretty much what we do now.
we can all show each other love.

now... I ask you.
Out of three choices?
which one is the worst.(first option)
which one is the best. (last option)
which one are we doing now. (middle option)

The problem I see with forming an actual 'group' of authors that supports other authors in the group is that it opens the possibility of abuse against authors who are not in that group. It just takes one disagreement at some point, and suddenly the group becomes a weapon, and once you use a weapon, it is easier to justify using it again.

Right now, SH is a wonderful community full of discourse, with people of all different viewpoints sharing ideas. It's full of individuals with different takes on writing. If you start forming cliques, this individuality will begin to disappear, as the opinions of the group will just become a sounding board.

We already have to compete with translated Xianxia and Cultivation baloney coming in from China; why should we invite the possibility of more infighting amongst actual authors? The way we do things may not be perfect, but it is better than the other options available.

Anyways, you do you. I just see no need for a change that would stagnate growth and creativity, as I believe groups like these would.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

The problem I see with forming an actual 'group' of authors that supports other authors in the group is that it opens the possibility of abuse against authors who are not in that group. It just takes one disagreement at some point, and suddenly the group becomes a weapon, and once you use a weapon, it is easier to justify using it again.

Right now, SH is a wonderful community full of discourse, with people of all different viewpoints sharing ideas. It's full of individuals with different takes on writing. If you start forming cliques, this individuality will begin to disappear, as the opinions of the group will just become a sounding board.

We already have to compete with translated Xianxia and Cultivation baloney coming in from China; why should we invite the possibility of more infighting amongst actual authors? The way we do things may not be perfect, but it is better than the other options available.

Anyways, you do you. I just see no need for a change that would stagnate growth and creativity, as I believe groups like these would.

Here? Is a wonderful place. its only for RR use, not for here. Because that's the state of things on the ground over there. I mean, I had no intentions of ever trying to make a yuri for RR? But now that I know some discord star chamber *forbids* it, and enforces it? it chaps my dimpled white irish @$$. What's next. Some... "Isekai Production Group" claims all isekai on RR, or else.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

There's a Boy's Love author circle here, the BL Palace.

@yansusustories and @tiaf are members.

not, my kind of kosher.

And, hello? Why are you posting with such level of grammar, while the grammar on your novels are more decent to be used here? Doesn't mean your wording there is good either.

Dude. you're not exactly in a position to be talking smack on my grammar. I'm not one to go making fun of someone for sounding like the clerk at the seven eleven because I don't mind foreigners. but you brought it up and impugned my prose first. You sound like tech support. get a grip. You are in no position to be giving english lessons. saar. And if your AI wonder-novel got a few more views than my stuff, more power to you. Because "when you are being talking like this" you don't exactly sit in the catbird's seat.

Serious question

why.
do.
you.
type.
like.
this.

to.
annoy.
my.
cat.

 

[Hans.Edward.Trondheim]

Well, in any case, since I finally understood this...I'm not really in favor, though I will surely benefit in this suggestion.

For one, such "group" can end up abused, and drive away starting authors. Such lack of newbies would limit the diversity of the stories here, already suffering from the influx of translations, AI slops, and isekai-smut photocopies.

Having exclusive groups would also stratify the forum, causing newbies who can't really socialize well to feel out of place.

And finally, reviews and ratings won't be authentic. Even if one puts up a rule that says, "Grade a story base on its merits" many would still do it because "author A is a good friend".

 

[Deleted member 44974]

Here

Curious tho, if you did form a cabal here what would you call yourselves?

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Let me just explain you right away so then you understand what I mean.
...
I want you to understand that yes, I know you're writing for a specific kind of readers. I'm not here to make a comparison of my good writing and your bad writing, even though I am. No, don't even look at me glazing myself.

I am not trying to prove a point about me being better than you.

(editors note: that's a relief, judging by the first two sentences)

The grammar of your works is okay, most of the time.

(editor's note: not exactly high praise, considering the fountainhead this flows from. That's my alliteration and some idiom, by the by)

The phrasing, how you form words and sentences, how your paragraphs flow, and whatnot, feels so weird that I can't play the scene in my head.

Oh lord. Awkward. With your... let us just say that there might possibly be another reason for this, and leave it at that.

Reading a scene and imagining it coming to life is what makes reading fictions fun. But, your books, my friend, feels like it doesn't want to be played. It only wanted to be read and understood on the very basic level of understanding, as if it's a documentary.

Yeah. I think, the stuff that's one sentence paragraphs? Is more your speed. I write in big boy paragraphs.

Sorry, but if I cannot make sense of it, I'm sure that's why people flock away from your books.

again, you not grasping some of my sentence structure... yeah, it could seem a little like a documentary on PBS space-time to you. I'd recommend some Judy Blume, she's pretty good. For you. maybe... my nephew said the hungry hungry caterpillar is a blast. There's another one.

To anyone who wants to help me prove my point, you can read her novels here in her SH profile. Be sure to leave a comment here and there, if you want to help prove my point. https://www.scribblehub.com/profile/243593/tinamigarlo/

chief? I'll tell you a secret, if you know where to keep it, and you promise not to tell. I just happened to have been looking at my "views" and my "reads"... right before you started in with all this, this morning. I just *happened* to know what those numbers were. And you claimed to have read anything of mine? Ace. Player to player, pimp to pimp. not *one* view went up. Not *one* read went up. All you could have done? Was look and see my numbers. That's it.

"The way you are being with your typing"... why don't we both enter our own thread. We both, timed, make our own little story. *live*. I will smoke you.

and you will be being much the amazed one, with such a thing to be being happening.

 

[LastMinami]

Let's say that any group of people who come together to score points and support each other is destined to become corrupt in a short time....

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Curious tho, if you did form a cabal here what would you call yourselves?

well. C.O.C.K is... already taken. Darn it.
um.
How about, keeping the theme and all.
The Writers of Altruistic Truth. (T.W.A.T.) I mean, that way no one will get offended.
COCK and TWAT, just has a certain... je ne sais quoi

 

[Hans.Edward.Trondheim]

well. C.O.C.K is... already taken. Darn it.
um.
How about, keeping the theme and all.
The Writers of Altruistic Truth. (T.W.A.T.) I mean, that way no one will get offended.
COCK and TWAT, just has a certain... je ne sais quoi

Feel free to grab COCK coz I already have OnlyHans ?

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Let's say that any group of people who come together to score points and support each other is destined to become corrupt in a short time....

cute avatar. In my head? I'm imagining that anime girl saying "corruption"... and, well, never mind.

 

[Hans.Edward.Trondheim]

You can also do TWAT like,

T-he
W-riters
A-ssociation of
T-inaMigarlo

"Altruistic Truth" sounds so cultish.

 

[LastMinami]

You can also do TWAT like,

T-he
W-riters
A-ssociation of
T-inaMigarlo

"Altruistic Truth" sounds so cultish.

You can also do TWAT like,

T-he
W-riters
A-ssociation of
T-inaMigarlo

"Altruistic Truth" sounds so cultish.

It sounded to me like what they say when they want to invite you to a cult lol

 

[Sebas_Guzman]

So, Tina, I will say I think the general idea of an alliance is cool. I think Apathy is the biggest enemy.

For the people bringing up morals and integrity, I disagree on the more shallow end. I pay for an unfair advantage on Amazon through ads. Others have street teams for their in person selling when they go hard. Those with publishers have a whole apparatus behind them. On the facebook groups, you promote the group in the back of your book in order to post on their pages.
If anyone is asking what is the value of a false review and false positivity? It has the same value as a review that knocked your story down for genre mismatch. If the review stands, it stands.
At some point, you have to be pragmatic.
Now, personally, I'll pay for exposure. I wont pay for reviews or comments.
If you want to do review swaps or shoutouts, go for it. i dont like people so I dont.


Also Tina, you do have a weird construction in the way you talk, and the random novel i opened has it all over the place. And the vibe it gives me is a little bit weird to read so repeatedly. I imagine that doesnt make communicating your point easier.
But still, the idea of a support group is nice. I would totally use it if i had one.

 

[TinaMigarlo]

Literally me and probably other people, lmao. I won't lie, I'd probably like it more if I have authority over others. Yes, that means trolling will exist. And yes, I'd be someone horrendous to be seen holding authority.

for once we're in complete agreement, on something.

but, saar?
if you would like to go, we'll say... somewhere.
where trolling, is the order of the day?
and I just *happen* to know of just such a place.
(tombstone voice)
well, that's just my game.
but seriously, nolff. If you think you like trolling?
me, you, we shouldn't bother these nice people here.
I'll drop you a *link*, you come to that website.
trust me, anything goes there.
you can "troll" to your hearts content there.
I will *make*, a thread. I will title it? "Tina Migarlo. AMA"
And you can give me your best material. Lets see what you got.
but I'm telling you.
"when you will be phrasing the things that you will be saying in this way"
I am *not* responsible for some of the things the anons that happen along curious what's going on in our thread, say.
(more tombstone voice)
why, johnny nolff... you look like, someone just walked over your grave

or, alternately.
we could be civil about it.
there *is* a literature board there. we could each make our own thread. each write our own little story. *live*, let others judge it.
anyone here, is free to come watch us do it. either thing.

I'm your huckleberry.

so. just in case you have the stones. the links...

for trolling? anything goes...

/pol/ - Politically Incorrect - Catalog - 4chan

"/pol/ - Politically Incorrect" is 4chan's board for discussing and debating politics and current events.

boards.4chan.org

or, we can conduct this in a somewhat civilized manner. literature.
we each get our own thread, make our own story.

/lit/ - Literature - Catalog - 4chan

"/lit/ - Literature" is 4chan's board for the discussion of books, authors, and literature.

boards.4chan.org

that? is the internet hate machine.
the abyss, itself.
I double dog dare you.

So, Tina, I will say I think the general idea of an alliance is cool. I think Apathy is the biggest enemy.

For the people bringing up morals and integrity, I disagree on the more shallow end. I pay for an unfair advantage on Amazon through ads. Others have street teams for their in person selling when they go hard. Those with publishers have a whole apparatus behind them. On the facebook groups, you promote the group in the back of your book in order to post on their pages.
If anyone is asking what is the value of a false review and false positivity? It has the same value as a review that knocked your story down for genre mismatch. If the review stands, it stands.
At some point, you have to be pragmatic.
Now, personally, I'll pay for exposure. I wont pay for reviews or comments.
If you want to do review swaps or shoutouts, go for it. i dont like people so I dont.


Also Tina, you do have a weird construction in the way you talk, and the random novel i opened has it all over the place. And the vibe it gives me is a little bit weird to read so repeatedly. I imagine that doesnt make communicating your point easier.
But still, the idea of a support group is nice. I would totally use it if i had one.

cool
you get it. I mean, in the industry, those puff lines on paperbacks?
"The most important novel this year! --- David Glockenspiel, the Whatever Press"
Those are just paid ads, basically.
anything being pushed, anywhere.
its some arrangement, of some kind, every time. Its not "organic" and the more its made to seem so, the more it isnt.

which novel did you find... weird? curious.
I mean, I happen to have a two chapter writing sample up, in the writers feedback section.
I didn't think those were too bad.
just curious what you spot checked in on.
and yes, you called it a weird vibe you get. I've heard that phrased, different ways.
let me guess, nothing you can put your finger on, right? just... a feeling, a vibe?
I've heard that.

 

[HungrySheep]

from what L1aei said? *anyone* here (better writers then me, I'm quite sure)
if they want to write yuri?
They're not *allowed* !!
some, discord cabal? Enforces it!

Both of my novels are yuri. Both hit #1 trending multiple times. One maintained that position for nearly 3 days. Not sure what you're all on about. The algorithm that SH uses has been among the best out of all the sites I've seen so far. Webnovel's algo pushes newly contracted works. Don't blame 'em, they've got a business to run and they need to make contracting appealing. RR... I don't think I even need to talk about that. Honeyfeed has no algorithm. It's an even bigger cabalfest than RR.

SH already does the heavy lifting for us. Again, be consistent, write decently. You don't even need to write "meta" as long as you post frequently. I'm pretty sure a well-written detective noir that has daily chapter updates would be able to hit trending fairly easily.