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[Nahrenne]

I was thinking about making a map of the actual city. What do you guys think about it? Do you think it would be too restrictive?

It would be nice to have a general idea of the layout, personally.
(^-^)

X

 

[AliceShiki]

I was thinking about making a map of the actual city. What do you guys think about it? Do you think it would be too restrictive?

I think that could be fun~

Though you'd need to make it big enough to add new things as people created new locations and stuff, which could be a bit troublesome.

I don't think it'd be a bad idea nonetheless~

 

[ohko]

I was thinking about making a map of the actual city. What do you guys think about it? Do you think it would be too restrictive?

I'm fine with it~ Although someone needs to figure out and resolve all of the different ways people have laid out the city!

 

[Yorth]

I'm fine with it~ Although someone needs to figure out and resolve all of the different ways people have laid out the city!

yeah, that's gonna be quite the task

 

[Nahrenne]

I'm fine with it~ Although someone needs to figure out and resolve all of the different ways people have laid out the city!

*has purposefully left things minimal and vague when describing the layout of the city*
'-'

X

 

[ohko]

yeah, that's gonna be quite the task

*has purposefully left things minimal and vague when describing the layout of the city*
'-'

X

I'm not reading quest reports anymore, but back when I was, I often spotted things like people putting a warehouse district in the north, X district here, Y district there...

The only thing I can say confidently is that lots of people seem to agree that Scribel City has at least four gates, one in each cardinal direction. It is apparently also a walled city.

 

[Nahrenne]

I'm not reading quest reports anymore, but back when I was, I often spotted things like people putting a warehouse district in the north, X district here, Y district there...

The only thing I can say confidently is that lots of people seem to agree that Scribel City has at least four gates, one in each cardinal direction. It is apparently also a walled city.

'o'

How surprising and insightful.
I only imagined it with one gate, for some reason I don't know...
>w<

X

 

[ohko]

@ohko I think the first one makes more sense. Though I think having a reward score that combines both exp and gold would be better since then you could play with both parameters. Maybe even add more parameters that you could convert to gold and have them affect the total reward score.

Mmmmmmmm, let me try splitting this into ranks.

Model 1 rewards:

• Unranked: 7-29G
• E-rank: 25-70G
• D-rank: 63-123G
• C-rank: 113-259G
• B-rank: 242-517G
• A-rank: 491-945G

Model 2 rewards:

• Unranked: 7-21G
• E-rank: 16-42G
• D-rank: 34-69G
• C-rank: 59-138G
• B-rank: 122-268G
• A-rank: 246-484G

Mmmmmmmmm... I feel like Model 1 scales too fast, getting 70G still at E-rank feels like too much to me tbh...

On the other hand, I like getting 30G while unranked I guess... Though on yet another hand, having basic unranked quests give so little gold might incentivize people making custom quests with bigger rewards, which isn't a bad thing.

I like Model 2 more tbh~

I'm leaning more toward's Alice's comment right now -- about preferring Model 2 since it seems more realistic.

In Model 2, a Rank E adventurer makes 2x the amount of a Level 1 adventurer. A Rank D makes twice that of Rank E... it seems to loosely follow doublings by rank. The 10X multiple is reached by Level 21 (Rank C).

In Model 1, the salary doubling occurs by level 3. In fact, the 10x multiple is reached by Level 13 (Rank D).

So yeah... I agree with Alice's evaluation that model 1 paces too quickly. I'd generally prefer players to be short money than have tons upon tons of it... although that's my stylistic preference after reading tons of fantasy stories where the main leads are always broke.

 

[SpearOfLies]

Well no, probably not. Though they would be expendable. Also, absolutely most definitely not my subordinates. Asking for a friend, asking for a friend.

*noms*

 

[Himekawa]

Going to rescale gold rewards from quests.

For EXP:

• Each quests should generally give 10 - 25% EXP necessary to level up to the next level.
• Early quests (Under level 10) should lean towards a higher rate... around 20-25%
• Later quests (Rank C+) should lean towards a lower rate... creeping down towards 15%

For Gold:

• I'm shooting for an index point of potions costing 80G -- adventurers need to be able to afford potions.
• Armor and weapons will generally more expensive (see prior discussions) to match a more realistic medieval price rate.
• The formula I cam up with as follows:
  • REWARD = 8 + 2 * LEVEL ^ ( 3 / 2 )
  • The lower and higher bounds are taken by the square root of the mean (by poisson distribution std.dev)

Here is calculation table:

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Level​	EXP​	ΔEXP​	10%ΔEXP​	15%ΔEXP​	20%ΔEXP​	25%ΔEXP​	$ LOW​	$ MED​	$ HIGH​
1​	0​	200​	20​	30​	40​	50​	7​	10​	13​
2​	200​	400​	40​	60​	80​	100​	10​	14​	17​
3​	600​	600​	60​	90​	120​	150​	14​	18​	23​
4​	1,200​	800​	80​	120​	160​	200​	19​	24​	29​
5​	2,000​	1,000​	100​	150​	200​	250​	25​	30​	36​
6​	3,000​	1,200​	120​	180​	240​	300​	31​	37​	44​
7​	4,200​	1,400​	140​	210​	280​	350​	38​	45​	52​
8​	5,600​	1,600​	160​	240​	320​	400​	46​	53​	61​
9​	7,200​	1,800​	180​	270​	360​	450​	54​	62​	70​
10​	9,000​	2,000​	200​	300​	400​	500​	63​	71​	80​
11​	11,000​	2,200​	220​	330​	440​	550​	72​	81​	90​
12​	13,200​	2,400​	240​	360​	480​	600​	82​	91​	101​
13​	15,600​	2,600​	260​	390​	520​	650​	92​	102​	112​
14​	18,200​	2,800​	280​	420​	560​	700​	102​	113​	123​
15​	21,000​	3,000​	300​	450​	600​	750​	113​	124​	135​
16​	24,000​	3,200​	320​	480​	640​	800​	124​	136​	148​
17​	27,200​	3,400​	340​	510​	680​	850​	136​	148​	160​
18​	30,600​	3,600​	360​	540​	720​	900​	148​	161​	173​
19​	34,200​	3,800​	380​	570​	760​	950​	160​	174​	187​
20​	38,000​	4,000​	400​	600​	800​	1000​	173​	187​	201​
21​	42,000​	4,200​	420​	630​	840​	1050​	186​	200​	215​
22​	46,200​	4,400​	440​	660​	880​	1100​	200​	214​	229​
23​	50,600​	4,600​	460​	690​	920​	1150​	213​	229​	244​
24​	55,200​	4,800​	480​	720​	960​	1200​	228​	243​	259​
25​	60,000​	5,000​	500​	750​	1000​	1250​	242​	258​	274​
26​	65,000​	5,200​	520​	780​	1040​	1300​	257​	273​	290​
27​	70,200​	5,400​	540​	810​	1080​	1350​	272​	289​	306​
28​	75,600​	5,600​	560​	840​	1120​	1400​	287​	304​	322​
29​	81,200​	5,800​	580​	870​	1160​	1450​	302​	320​	338​
30​	87,000​	6,000​	600​	900​	1200​	1500​	318​	337​	355​
31​	93,000​	6,200​	620​	930​	1240​	1550​	334​	353​	372​
32​	99,200​	6,400​	640​	960​	1280​	1600​	351​	370​	389​
33​	105,600​	6,600​	660​	990​	1320​	1650​	367​	387​	407​
34​	112,200​	6,800​	680​	1020​	1360​	1700​	384​	405​	425​
35​	119,000​	7,000​	700​	1050​	1400​	1750​	402​	422​	443​
36​	126,000​	7,200​	720​	1080​	1440​	1800​	419​	440​	461​
37​	133,200​	7,400​	740​	1110​	1480​	1850​	437​	458​	480​
38​	140,600​	7,600​	760​	1140​	1520​	1900​	455​	476​	498​
39​	148,200​	7,800​	780​	1170​	1560​	1950​	473​	495​	517​
40​	156,000​	8,000​	800​	1200​	1600​	2000​	491​	514​	537​
41​	164,000​	8,200​	820​	1230​	1640​	2050​	510​	533​	556​
42​	172,200​	8,400​	840​	1260​	1680​	2100​	529​	552​	576​
43​	180,600​	8,600​	860​	1290​	1720​	2150​	548​	572​	596​
44​	189,200​	8,800​	880​	1320​	1760​	2200​	567​	592​	616​
45​	198,000​	9,000​	900​	1350​	1800​	2250​	587​	612​	636​
46​	207,000​	9,200​	920​	1380​	1840​	2300​	607​	632​	657​
47​	216,200​	9,400​	940​	1410​	1880​	2350​	627​	652​	678​
48​	225,600​	9,600​	960​	1440​	1920​	2400​	647​	673​	699​
49​	235,200​	9,800​	980​	1470​	1960​	2450​	668​	694​	720​
50​	245,000​	10,000​	1000​	1500​	2000​	2500​	688​	715​	742​
51​	255,000​	10,200​	1020​	1530​	2040​	2550​	709​	736​	764​
52​	265,200​	10,400​	1040​	1560​	2080​	2600​	730​	758​	785​
53​	275,600​	10,600​	1060​	1590​	2120​	2650​	752​	780​	808​
54​	286,200​	10,800​	1080​	1620​	2160​	2700​	773​	802​	830​
55​	297,000​	11,000​	1100​	1650​	2200​	2750​	795​	824​	852​
56​	308,000​	11,200​	1120​	1680​	2240​	2800​	817​	846​	875​
57​	319,200​	11,400​	1140​	1710​	2280​	2850​	839​	869​	898​
58​	330,600​	11,600​	1160​	1740​	2320​	2900​	862​	891​	921​
59​	342,200​	11,800​	1180​	1770​	2360​	2950​	884​	914​	945​
60​	354,000​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​	​

+ + +

Alternately we could go with 9 + LEVEL ^ ( 3 / 2)
​

Level​	$LOW​	$MED​	$HIGH​
1​	7​	10​	13​
2​	8​	12​	15​
3​	10​	14​	18​
4​	13​	17​	21​
5​	16​	20​	25​
6​	19​	24​	29​
7​	22​	28​	33​
8​	26​	32​	37​
9​	30​	36​	42​
10​	34​	41​	47​
11​	39​	45​	52​
12​	43​	51​	58​
13​	48​	56​	63​
14​	54​	61​	69​
15​	59​	67​	75​
16​	64​	73​	82​
17​	70​	79​	88​
18​	76​	85​	95​
19​	82​	92​	101​
20​	89​	98​	108​
21​	95​	105​	115​
22​	102​	112​	123​
23​	108​	119​	130​
24​	115​	127​	138​
25​	122​	134​	146​
26​	130​	142​	153​
27​	137​	149​	162​
28​	145​	157​	170​
29​	152​	165​	178​
30​	160​	173​	186​
31​	168​	182​	195​
32​	176​	190​	204​
33​	184​	199​	213​
34​	193​	207​	222​
35​	201​	216​	231​
36​	210​	225​	240​
37​	219​	234​	249​
38​	228​	243​	259​
39​	237​	253​	268​
40​	246​	262​	278​
41​	255​	272​	288​
42​	264​	281​	298​
43​	274​	291​	308​
44​	284​	301​	318​
45​	293​	311​	329​
46​	303​	321​	339​
47​	313​	331​	349​
48​	323​	342​	360​
49​	333​	352​	371​
50​	344​	363​	382​
51​	354​	373​	393​
52​	364​	384​	404​
53​	375​	395​	415​
54​	386​	406​	426​
55​	396​	417​	437​
56​	407​	428​	449​
57​	418​	439​	460​
58​	429​	451​	472​
59​	441​	462​	484​

Kind of disagree honestly, for the money part. How many quest is inherently risky that adventurer need a potion, beyond weak potion to do it? The healing herbs and slime core will cost at most 10-15 each since the adventurer can actually post a quest with reward competitive to the guild if they don't want to spend the day getting potion material. This is based on alchemist apprentice quest, so I think on lower level there should be a market for the weak healing potion, one with lower cost that 80G.

 

[Yorth]

http://imgur.com/a/5HjotXV

this is the map for now (I know, there is almost nothing). If someone remembers which district is where, please tell me lol

 

[Himekawa]

I was thinking about making a map of the actual city. What do you guys think about it? Do you think it would be too restrictive?

make sure you read all those quest located in scribel city, kay?

 

[AliceShiki]

I swear it was not my intention to get my top spot back by making a 4251 words report! I just had too much stuff I wanted to go through in it! >.<

Btw, @GDLiZy, I recovered your lantern! If you don't feel like reading the whole report to read how, I attached a neat resume to make things easier! ^^)/

Oh and uhn... Sorry if you were planning to do anything else with that graveyard, I kinda nipped that thing in the bud... >.>

 

[SpearOfLies]

I'm leaning more toward's Alice's comment right now -- about preferring Model 2 since it seems more realistic.

In Model 2, a Rank E adventurer makes 2x the amount of a Level 1 adventurer. A Rank D makes twice that of Rank E... it seems to loosely follow doublings by rank. The 10X multiple is reached by Level 21 (Rank C).

In Model 1, the salary doubling occurs by level 3. In fact, the 10x multiple is reached by Level 13 (Rank D).

So yeah... I agree with Alice's evaluation that model 1 paces too quickly. I'd generally prefer players to be short money than have tons upon tons of it... although that's my stylistic preference after reading tons of fantasy stories where the main leads are always broke.

I like the model 2 too. I did feel the first model was a bit fast-paced but I didn't mind it too much (until I notice model 2 when Alice mentions it). Going for the safe route is good as if something happens, it will be much easier to manage it.

I swear it was not my intention to get my top spot back by making a 4251 words report! I just had too much stuff I wanted to go through in it! >.<

Btw, @GDLiZy, I recovered your lantern! If you don't feel like reading the whole report to read how, I attached a neat resume to make things easier! ^^)/

*patpat*

 

[Nahrenne]

I may have gone overboard with my writing in my latest quest...
3199 words...
orz

I'm an idiot.

Sorry @Zoey for subjecting you to such a long report.
*gives you massages, huggles and flapjacks in thanks and appreciation*

...x...

 

[AliceShiki]

I may have gone overboard with my writing in my latest quest...
3199 words...
orz

I'm an idiot.

Sorry @Zoey for subjecting you to such a long report.
*gives you massages, huggles and flapjacks in thanks and appreciation*

...x...

You have the 4th longest report, currently speaking! *shakes pompoms*

It was pretty fun going through it~

 

[Zoey]

I may have gone overboard with my writing in my latest quest...
3199 words...
orz

I'm an idiot.

Sorry @Zoey for subjecting you to such a long report.
*gives you massages, huggles and flapjacks in thanks and appreciation*

...x...

don't worry I started skimming it after the second customer.
It was a fun read though so no complaints.

 

[Nahrenne]

You have the 4th longest report, currently speaking! *shakes pompoms*

It was pretty fun going through it~

don't worry I started skimming it after the second customer.
It was a fun read though so no complaints.

I'm glad I managed to entertain you both with it, then.
(^-^)

*huggles you both*

I'm still trying to summon the courage to read yours Alice.
>w<
I might leave it to tomorrow, when I'm more alert, and take the time to read the quests before it that linked into it.

X

 

[AliceShiki]

I'm glad I managed to entertain you both with it, then.
(^-^)

*huggles you both*

I'm still trying to summon the courage to read yours Alice.
>w<
I might leave it to tomorrow, when I'm more alert, and take the time to read the quests before it that linked into it.

X

Take your time, it's not going anywhere! xD

Ah, and the references 2.1/2.2/2.3 are just Tavern posts, so it should be pretty quick to go over them. Only the #1 is a quest report, which isn't that big if memory serves me right~

Edit: 660 words for the linked report~

 

[GDLiZy]

I swear it was not my intention to get my top spot back by making a 4251 words report! I just had too much stuff I wanted to go through in it! >.<

Btw, @GDLiZy, I recovered your lantern! If you don't feel like reading the whole report to read how, I attached a neat resume to make things easier! ^^)/

Oh and uhn... Sorry if you were planning to do anything else with that graveyard, I kinda nipped that thing in the bud... >.>

Don’t worry, I’m not gonna suffer. But you might wanna pray for Luna tho. At best, she missed some world building and character development. At worst, a crucial information was missed and tragedy was long predestined.

Don’t forget, I’m a tragedy genre lover.