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Woolen_Monkey
Woolen_Monkey
Idk, this just sounds like everyday life with extra steps. No accountability.
AliceMoonvale
AliceMoonvale
A character from the Sims that truly breaks free and achieves free will.
SirContro
SirContro
That sounds like hell. Imagine a character constantly going "Zagooblarfeerv"
SirContro
SirContro
a man standing at a bar holding a glass of whiskey with the words not a great plan below him
Envylope
Envylope
Idk, this just sounds like everyday life with extra steps. No accountability.
It is not. The character never existed in a world that thought of free will. Every thought and thing a person does is not an "I am doing this" thought. It's a "the spirits possessed (person) to cook thought." Conceptually, it is very different from everyday life. All impulses are not "I am angry..."
Envylope
Envylope
They are more like, "the spirits struck me with anger." Though, maybe worded somehow differently.
SirContro
SirContro
Sounds like the character is just doing what they want, but failing to see that that's what they want to do, even though the existence of "evil spirits" in their eyes would make it quite clear that if they decided to do something different from how they've been operating so far, nothing would stop them.
Envylope
Envylope
It's not that at all. You are missing the entire concept. Perhaps I am not explaining it well.
SirContro
SirContro
If they did do something bad-natured would they rationalize it as a spirit forcing them to do something bad as an ends justify the means type deal, or would they rationalize it is being posessed by an evil spirit?
SirContro
SirContro
Correct.
Envylope
Envylope
They are not rationalizing it as anything. They don't rationalize it in a way we do to begin with. All things that happen to people in the tribe are governed by spirits/gods. Even if they do something really good, it is not them doing it.
Envylope
Envylope
It's, "the spirits compelled him/her to give away their belongings." A reader might interpret it using their own life context, but that's the problem. It cannot be interpreted with the context in which we view the world. It has to be seen through the way the tribe interacts with the world.
SirContro
SirContro
And that's exactly that brings us to the idea that you might just be explaining your concept poorly, because "the spirits compelled me to cook" and "the spirits compelled John/jane to kill evil spirits" are rationalizations. They're trying to make sense of what "the spirits" are doing to them.
SirContro
SirContro
Anyway. This concept has been done. I suggest you read this before deciding if you actually want to write this story.
Envylope
Envylope
No, they were never brought up with rationalizations that they do anything. Therefore, this is not a rationalization of their actions. It's what they actually think is happening. When they feel anger, they do not think they are mad. They think that a spirit is possessing them.
SirContro
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SirContro
SirContro
Yes, Envy. Using the logic they grew up with, they conclude that the spirits are making them do whatever they do. I know that they legitimately think the spirits are posessing them I never said they didnt. I simply wanted to know what would happen if they started acting out of character for how the spirit has been controlling them so far.
SirContro
SirContro
Would they think there was a change in the spirit or would they think they got possessed by another spirit?
Envylope
Envylope
Presumably it would depend on whatever system you are using to govern spirits or gods. Let's say that "Zeus" represented wrath. "Zeus possessed him to kill." Basically, each action they do is whatever God is controlling them at that time.
SirContro
SirContro
Uh huh, anyway, read The Giver. There isn't really spirits as a concept in this book but the setting is about a little society that's goven up all sense of free will.
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