Fallout New Vegas: Is Caesar's Legion cringe?

Apparently, there's a bunch of people that unironically love this faction. And somehow believe that they'd be good for Mojave...?

And they hate the NCR because *checks notes* taxes? Forget the safety, rights, voting, being against slavery. The tiny amount of taxes is the issue.

And Caesar himself says that the legion will never outlast him, so why should he ever prevail?

Like I understand the argument for House, but never the legion.

Any Caesar glazers here?

Courier ending allied to brotherhood of steel and boomers is best.
House ending second.
NPC ending third.
Fuck the legion for everything they stand for and what they did to Nipton.

JayMark said:

Fuck the legion

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Degenerates like you belong on a cross

The Legion are just Roman Empire wannabe LARPers with guns and no real knowledge of the Roman Empire.
Also if taxes are the problem, how do they think Caesar is paying the soldiers? You have to get the cash somewhere, and there is only so far plunder will get you.

Having played every ending, I'd say that the NCR is more familiar to us because their organization and structure are just like today, a hidden dictatorship.
House is a Vegas dictator.
Caesar is an Arizonian dictator.

I prefer the independent ending where the Courier because the sole leader of Vegas.
If anyone has to be a dictator, I'd rather it be me.

But to answer your question, I prefer Caesar over NCR, at the very least he's not a hypocrite.

SouthernMaiden said:

And they hate the NCR because *checks notes* taxes? Forget the safety, rights, voting, being against slavery. The tiny amount of taxes is the issue.

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The NCR is the most corrupt faction in the game. Everywhere you go in the Mojave, you see people suffering under their rule for barely livable wages (see the sharecropper farms), so the people of Nevada are almost slaves; they are definitely treated as second-class citizens compared to those in California (so much for being against slavery and having rights); hell, the NCR does nothing about the gangs on the strip literally having slaves. They failed to deal with the powder gangers or the deathclaws in Quarry Junction (so much for safety), and the people being ruled in Nevada did not get the chance to vote in the elections.

The least bad option for the future of Nevada is the meritocratic technocrat known as Mr. House, and even he's not perfect. The least bad option for the player is the Yes Man route.

SouthernMaiden said:

And Caesar himself says that the legion will never outlast him

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In the game, he knows that Legate Lanius and Vulpes Inculta would make terrible successors due to their psychopathic nature, which is why Caesar wanted the player to be the next leader if you go that route.

Certified Mr. House glazer here. His only flaws were tolerating the gangs on the strip (one of those gangs was cannibalistic), and even they'd be on their way out once you gave him the chip and he got his robot army.

EDIT: Keep in mind that the NCR was willing to work with awful corporations like the Crimson Caravan and the Silver Rush Trading Co.

All the factions are cool.
But the Mojave is hot.
Does anyone else wish for a nuclear winter?

Legion ending is the best! MUAHAHAHAHA!

The Legion is a bunch of larpers, but by the standards of the wastes, they are thousands of times less corrupt than the NCR, which had become a bloated bureaucracy. The NCR is better in the sense that it's better for the stability of whatever will be left for the wastes. The Legion has the appeal that instead of being a fake democracy, it's a direct dictatorship; they are honest. Still, they are shit.

All I know is, I preferred the Legion, House, or the Yes-Man route.
If I have to live under crushing control, I'd rather they be honest about it rather than smile and blow smoke up my arse about how much better things will be "cuz democracy" and "muh votes" and so on while I'm still barely above starvation levels.

Save me the bullshit speeches and just do whatever you're going to do anyway.

Also because fuck you the Romans rule!!

As someone who watched Oxhorn but never play the game, to me all factions are bad, the NCR are corrupt politians. Ceasar are roman trash who didn't even do the job right. House is somewhat okay, and yes man rout is just chaos.

If i were to choose, i choose chaos.

Masked_writer said:

to me all factions are bad

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That's precisely the point of the game. You aren't the hero that saves the world; despite all the things you change and influence, at the end, "war never changes." Obsidian (the OG who created the franchise, not the current one) understood the themes in the IP in a way that Bethesda clearly doesn't (as evident in FO4 and FO76).