Too unrealistic?

[ThisAdamGuy]

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[VanVeleca]

four hundreed feet tall is pretty damn tall, maybe if you feel like it's too much you can go like "probably" or "appears to be from so far below", which would mean it looks like that from the protagonist's POV but not actually that hyuge

Or go for the classic slight hallucinations angle where it's probably about as normally tall as a church but looks bigger due to drugs or fear

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

the way I am reading this...its like the beads hit the ground then burst each time, and each time she is falling from higher and higher.

the 2nd bead shouldnt have gotten her as high as the first, just the simple physics of it. Yeah you can say ooo magic, but it doesnt make a lot of sense, magic or not. In this case, the first bead she was beside it and on the ground. She received the full force of the spell, propelling her upwards.

The 2nd bead also hit the ground, except this time, she fell 75 ft before the blast hit her. She would be dropping at about 56ft a second at that point (earth gravity), so the now dispersed and weakened airblast pellet, having travelled out 25 ft from the epicenter, would need to overcome her inertia.

suffice to say, those pellets probably wouldnt even slow her down.

if the pellets could explode just below her prior to hitting the apex of the 'jump', she could continue her upwards momentum, but as written, it doesnt make sense if you logically think about it.

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

she fell 75 ft

That's not what it said. It says that each bead shoots her upwards roughly 100 feet, and she falls approximately a third of that distance while waiting for the next gust of wind.

the 2nd bead shouldnt have gotten her as high as the first

Why? It says that each bead has the power to take her all the way to the top of the wall. They just stop working too quickly, meaning she keeps going upwards for a second or two before running out of momentum (this is when she throws the next bead) at which point she starts to fall. So as long as she doesn't fall all the back to the ground, each bead should take her higher than the one before it.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

That's not what it said. It says that each bead shoots her upwards roughly 100 feet, and she falls approximately a third of that distance while waiting for the next gust of wind.


Why? It says that each bead has the power to take her all the way to the top of the wall. They just stop working too quickly, meaning she keeps going upwards for a second or two before running out of momentum (this is when she throws the next bead) at which point she starts to fall. So as long as she doesn't fall all the back to the ground, each bead should take her higher than the one before it.

First point, yep, I read wrong

Second point. Then im not understanding how the bead itself works. Is it an explosion of air that expands in a sphere? Or is it a jet that pushes upwards from its point of impact? If its a sphere, it would weaken as it got larger. If its a jet, does it keep its same energy as it goes upwards?

I will say I like the scene, but unless these beads were explained earlier in the writing on how they work, being further away from the explosion of air would mean it has less energy. A person falling from height has more 'energy' than a person standing still.

Say its a jet of air that last x amount of time but she needs 4x to get to where she needs to get, then she would need to time her throws to maintain upwards movement to get close to the height she needs to get to.

From a fun standpoint, its cool, but a logical standpoint, yeah, as you stated in your initial post, the realism is gone.

 

[CharlesEBrown]

The two things that bothered me about this:
The height of the wall in question. Unless there were some impressive magic involved in its construction, it just does not make sense. Maybe just make it one hundred, fifty feet - keep the rest as-is; the beads barely last long enough to get her up at any significant distance, she falls a bit, and the next one pushes her; that's fine.
Now, the spinning in place and throwing a grappling hook with nothing beneath her is ... questionable as well. Unless she's practiced that maneuver before, it would make more sense for her to expect to have to do this and have the hook in hand before she starts leaping, knowing she will probably have to use the thing.
At least to me.

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

Or is it a jet that pushes upwards from its point of impact?

This one. It's a spell contained inside the bead. Break it, and it releases a gust of wind going straight up that's strong enough to shoot an adult person off the ground like one of those human cannonballs. Each gust of wind is technically strong enough to reach all the way to the top of the wall, but since it only lasts two seconds, she has to keep throwing beads until she eventually gets to the top of the wall.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

This one. It's a spell contained inside the bead. Break it, and it releases a gust of wind going straight up that's strong enough to shoot an adult person off the ground like one of those human cannonballs. Each gust of wind is technically strong enough to reach all the way to the top of the wall, but since it only lasts two seconds, she has to keep throwing beads until she eventually gets to the top of the wall.

Okay then,

I would suggest rewriting it so it makes it seems like she is keeping her momentum, BUT the Last bead was slightly off angle so she had to use her grapple to get ahold of the ledge....its still unrealistic but its less of a reach than trying to treat a gust a wind like a trampoline with downwards momentum involved.

Also 400 ft, the main building of st Peter's Basilica is only 150ish ft tall(not including the hollow dome)...400 is excessive for stone, unless its magically reinforced. But that isn't a huge deal, magic is a thing in this world obviously.

 

[Racosharko]

Context matters.

To me, analyzing this excerpt without wider context of how magic and physics work is pointless. There is no universal relatively of what level of bullshit a reader will accept.

Suspension of disbelief is about world building and tone setting that comes long before any questionable incidents.

 

[Juia_Darkcrest]

Also, idle curiosity, since she is avoiding the unlocked door, is she trying to sneak in? How loud is this jet of air? Haha, hell with that kind of power is it going to break every window on that side of the cathedral?

Actually that would be a kind of a funny opportunity moment...you mc is trying to sneak in using these beads, but ends up breaking every window in the place because of the change in pressures the wind causes, BUT they all think they are underattack from the outside, allowing the mc to successfully infiltrate despite not expecting the calamity that just ensued

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

is she trying to sneak in? How loud is this jet of air?

The front entrance is guarded, but the church itself is massive. It's described as looking like a stereotypical earth church, but blown up to ridiculous proportions. So while it's not exactly stealthy, there's more than enough space for her to do this without alerting the guards.

 

[Bald-san]

I know the rule of cool supersedes realism when it comes to fantasy, but there are still some things that are so outlandish that they'll break someone's suspension of disbelief. I can't decide if what I just wrote is in danger of that or not. What do you guys think?

400 meters is like vertically stacked soccer field of my university (my Uni, so I dunno about inter. standard) so it's tall. Maybe 50 or 60 will do, except if its 'Cathedral of Giants' or something

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

400 meters

Feet

 

[Alski]

If you want to be more physics acurate she should have them activate as close to continuous as possible, not only will she get there quicker but also potentialy use less orbs.

 

[Arkus86]

There's only so much relevance my points can have without the full context of your world or at least the beads' exact effects, but...

Firstly, apparently the beads have enough power to comfortably propel (presumably) adult human woman 400 feet into the air, but barely even whip the grass around point of impact. I understand it is an effect directed upwards, but clearly it's not completely contained since it does affect the grass.
Secondly, as mentioned before, the effect should grow weaker the further away she is from the impact point, and at the same time, the time between her throwing each bead and its impact should grow longer - unless she can throw them so hard, the increased distance creates only a minimal difference, but then she would not have dropped nearly so much height each time. This point should not be countered by throwing the bead before the previous effect ceases either, as it would propel the bead upwards as well.
And thirdly, despite the strength of the wind that can propel a human like this without even a parachute or sail to catch the wind, there is no note of any effect on her other than propelling her upwards and wind roaring in her ears. No ruffling or tearing at her clothes, no difficulty with breathing, no discomfort or inconvenience with the wind at all. Even the one mention of her cloak is merely as it trails behind when she falls.

 

[Bald-san]

Feet

Oh, so about 121 something meters huh, I think is accurate enough

 

[ThisAdamGuy]

clearly it's not completely contained since it does affect the grass.

So?

there is no note of any effect on her other than propelling her upwards and wind roaring in her ears. No ruffling or tearing at her clothes, no difficulty with breathing, no discomfort or inconvenience with the wind at all. Even the one mention of her cloak is merely as it trails behind when she falls.

That's because it's not relevant to the story.

 

[Golden_Hyde]

Oh, so about 121 something meters huh, I think is accurate enough

right, that's actually the size of an average skyscraper.

 

[Racosharko]

right, that's actually the size of an average skyscraper.

I was today years old...

 

[Alski]

I was today years old...

Trust a shark to post a set of buildings that are all destroyed.