Who would win?.

[ElijahRyne]

I think everyone here has read a bit too much power fantasy. This isn't a situation where, once exhausted you can even kill the gorilla. How do you propose the men kill the gorilla? They can, at most, blind it. Our teeth can maybe MAYBE do some damage to their muscles. That'd be the humans only chance, to repeatedly bite the gorilla. Throwing rocks won't be enough, the gorillas are too muscular for more than bruising. The average man would very likely never even think to bite it. How many men die before they figure it out? Most men would try to punch, kick, or throw stuff at it. This is just a massacre of men. This question is like asking how many men does it take to fight a ford f-150 and win. Sure, eventually the tank runs out and they can dismantle it, but 100 men isn't enough.

You can fit 4, maybe 5 men on the back of the gorilla if you're pushing it. If they're the average man as described, they're 90kg. Sure, half of what the gorilla can carry. Issue for those men is that gorillas can easily grab things on their back, and swing them THROUGH other attacking men like a club.

Silverbacks only become silverbacks by fighting other gorillas in combat repeatedly. These are battle hardened gorillas that fight and win against other gorillas. They know how to fight and how to kill. Further, the 800kg estimate I gave is on the low end for them, that's a weak silverback. Peak silverback bench press strength is like 1800 kg. So, we can put the average at like 1300kg.

Exhaustion is only a factor if the fight is strenuous. Lifting a human man and spinning him around isn't a strenuous activity for a gorilla any more than carrying two grocery bags is for a weightlifter. It's a massacre of men.

For an idea of exactly how one sided this is, this is a chimpanzee getting it's hands on a raccoon. The numbers work out such that the approximate weight and strength is about the same as a human and gorilla. You think 100 raccoons would be able to beat a chimp?

Punching and kicking is a stupid way to fight. Much less against a gorilla, you would want grapple, bite, and use your elbows + knees. While it will be hard to damage the muscles of a gorilla, its skin is your chance although it is ~4-5x tougher than a humans. It might be possible through scratching, biting, using a sharp rock or stick, etc. to cut said gorilla. Five people on a gorilla will probably not slow it down much, but it should still exhaust it especially if these grapplers are able to draw blood through biting/constrict the neck of said gorilla even if temporarily. Once a cut is made you would tear at it gradually until it becomes large.

On another note a silverback weighs 450 pounds on average, even if it can lift 3x that it is not like it can do so all day long. With people constantly trying to grapple it, even if they are unable to cut it, the gorilla would be unable to kill them all before it is too exhausted to fight back. The average American man weighs about 200 pounds, four men grasping onto it would be a bit under double its weight. The most dangerous part/thing would be it’s bite, however it can only bite one person at a time, their punches would also be devastating, but in close distance they would be less effective & practical. Dozens of, maybe even half of the 100, people will probably die/be seriously wounded, but eventually the gorilla would be too exhausted to fight back effectively.

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[TachimeSan]

We have two ways of looking at this fight.

First is if the combatants are in their natural state of mind. People tend to forget that Gorillas are prey animals, not predators. One 400 pound Gorilla against a hundred screaming human males? No shot the Gorilla fights back, It'll just run away.

Now the second way of looking at this is if the combatants are blood lusted and have no care for their being. Now, I think people are underestimating just how many 100 healthy human males are. The average male Silverback Gorilla weighs between 340 to 400 pounds, they can lift approximately up to 1760 pounds, an average healthy human male weighs about 160 pounds, multiply that to 100, and you get a whopping 16,000 pounds. There is no possible way for a Gorilla to one-shot a human using JUST it's arms.

Yes Gorillas do use their teeth, but when we look at examples of Gorilla attacks, they very rarely do so, they mainly go unga boonga and just club their enemies to death using their arms. Now, can it do that to a human? Absolutely. But imagine just as it's clubbing a human's head in, 4 other humans pile on it, grabbing, scratching, poking, biting, it's eyes, nipples. groin, etc. then another 4, then another 4, then another 4, so on and so forth.

The Gorilla would tire waaaay before he could kill all 100 healthy human males.

 

[ElijahRyne]

We have two ways of looking at this fight.

First is if the combatants are in their natural state of mind. People tend to forget that Gorillas are prey animals, not predators. One 400 pound Gorilla against a hundred screaming human males? No shot the Gorilla fights back, It'll just run away.

Now the second way of looking at this is if the combatants are blood lusted and have no care for their being. Now, I think people are underestimating just how many 100 healthy human males are. The average male Silverback Gorilla weighs between 340 to 400 pounds, they can lift approximately up to 1760 pounds, an average healthy human male weighs about 160 pounds, multiply that to 100, and you get a whopping 16,000 pounds. There is no possible way for a Gorilla to one-shot a human using JUST it's arms.

Yes Gorillas do use their teeth, but when we look at examples of Gorilla attacks, they very rarely do so, they mainly go unga boonga and just club their enemies to death using their arms. Now, can it do that to a human? Absolutely. But imagine just as it's clubbing a human's head in, 4 other humans pile on it, grabbing, scratching, poking, biting, it's eyes, nipples. groin, etc. then another 4, then another 4, then another 4, so on and so forth.

The Gorilla would tire waaaay before he could kill all 100 healthy human males.

Exactly.

 

[Plantorsomething]

I saw this trend on tiktok and it was funny in my opinion,who do you think would win between 100 average men with no weapon vs a silver back gorilla?

Me

 

[RepresentingCaution]

It depends on how the men are at cooperating.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

Humans vs gorilla? What's the difference anyway? It's basically 100 ants vs a slightly bigger ant. My blood money is on the 100 ants.

 

[Tyranomaster]

The question to consider asking yourself is if you think 10 average men could beat mike tyson in a fight in his prime without weapons. If you think the average men would lose, then there is no shot the men can beat a silverback.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

The question to consider asking yourself is if you think 10 average men could beat mike tyson in a fight in his prime without weapons. If you think the average men would lose, then there is no shot the men can beat a silverback.

If they use everything at their disposal, yes. Though it also depends on what you consider as a weapon. Is big rock a weapon? Also depends on how you look at the question, in a vacuum or not. In real life even 10 average men would be scared shitless to do anything to prime Mike. If we look at it in a vacuum considering they don't care about damage they sustain? As soon as Mike trips, he loses.

 

[Anonjohn20]

The men would win, the gorilla only have two hands and maybe teeth, there's no way it would handle 100 hundred people. It would be even worse for the gorilla if both the human and gorilla would be in peak performance

The gorilla knows no fear; the men, on the other hand, are going to be hesitant every time they see it crush a person or rip a person apart.

 

[TachimeSan]

The question to consider asking yourself is if you think 10 average men could beat mike tyson in a fight in his prime without weapons. If you think the average men would lose, then there is no shot the men can beat a silverback.

10 average men with no regard for their own safety would absolutely beat a single Mike Tyson with no regard for his safety. Mike Tyson at his prime was 215-220 pounds. The average American weighs 199 pounds. 10 average healthy men would weigh 1990 pounds collectively, I find it hard to believe that Mike Tyson could just swat away that much weight. Imagine ten,199 pound healthy American male all grabbing, scratching, and poking at Mike's sensitive parts, there's just no way. If you think that Mike Tyson could beat that, then you're probably the one who's read/watched too many power fantasy shows.

You could argue that technique plays a role in this. yes, Mike could absolutely juke and kite 10 men, and knock them out individually. But that wasn't the argument, the argument was if both parties had no regard for their safety and just went ape shit (pun intended.)

A Gorilla does not have technique, all it has is its overwhelming physical strength, but even that isn't enough for it to take out a hundred men before tiring out or sustaining enough damage. Yes, a lot of those 100 men would die or get mangled horribly, but in the end, the indomitable human spirit would prevail.

After all, it was us who was made in the image of God.

The gorilla knows no fear; the men, on the other hand, are going to be hesitant every time they see it crush a person or rip a person apart.In

In a natural setting, the Gorilla CAN and most probably WILL be scared by a hundred screaming men. Can you imagine the sheer sound of a hundred screaming men? That would probably put the gorilla in this state:

 

[The_Bip_Boop2003]

Don't people realize how much a crowd of 100 people is?

It's essentialy that-

That's what the poor silver back has to deal with, but now they are all men.

 

[Tyranomaster]

A Gorilla does not have technique, all it has is its overwhelming physical strength, but even that isn't enough for it to take out a hundred men before tiring out or sustaining enough damage. Yes, a lot of those 100 men would die or get mangled horribly, but in the end, the indomitable human spirit would prevail.

A gorilla, an average gorilla, would lose, easily. The question was a silverback, which is a prime male gorilla who fights other gorillas regularly to keep control of a harem. This is a gorilla who is familiar with fighting not only other gorillas in single combat, but fighting other threats and even other troops. A silverback is well accustomed to fighting, even more so it's accustomed to fighting other primates.

Silverbacks are used to taking punches and dodging bites from OTHER GORILLAS. These are 100 average men. The average man cannot throw a stone hard enough, nor accurate enough to harm the gorilla without a lot of luck. The gorilla is also faster, you won't outpace it. The average human ALSO tires quickly. According to https://ourworldindata.org/obesity , the average male in 2016 had a BMI of 25, which was the cutoff for being overweight. Last I checked, the world has gotten fatter in the last 10 or so years, not thinner. The AVERAGE man is slightly overweight.

I think most people are overestimating the capabilities of the average human male in the modern world, and vastly underestimate the power of peak gorilla.

 

[BigBadBoi]

100 huys easy. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug and you underestimate the power of kicks and biting. Even just 20 guys dedicated to tearing out its throat is enough.

 

[TachimeSan]

A gorilla, an average gorilla, would lose, easily. The question was a silverback, which is a prime male gorilla who fights other gorillas regularly to keep control of a harem. This is a gorilla who is familiar with fighting not only other gorillas in single combat, but fighting other threats and even other troops. A silverback is well accustomed to fighting, even more so it's accustomed to fighting other primates.

Silverbacks are used to taking punches and dodging bites from OTHER GORILLAS. These are 100 average men. The average man cannot throw a stone hard enough, nor accurate enough to harm the gorilla without a lot of luck. The gorilla is also faster, you won't outpace it. The average human ALSO tires quickly. According to https://ourworldindata.org/obesity , the average male in 2016 had a BMI of 25, which was the cutoff for being overweight. Last I checked, the world has gotten fatter in the last 10 or so years, not thinner. The AVERAGE man is slightly overweight.

I think most people are overestimating the capabilities of the average human male in the modern world, and vastly underestimate the power of peak gorilla.

A gorilla, an average gorilla, would lose, easily. The question was a silverback, which is a prime male gorilla who fights other gorillas regularly to keep control of a harem. This is a gorilla who is familiar with fighting not only other gorillas in single combat, but fighting other threats and even other troops. A silverback is well accustomed to fighting, even more so it's accustomed to fighting other primates.

Silverbacks are used to taking punches and dodging bites from OTHER GORILLAS. These are 100 average men. The average man cannot throw a stone hard enough, nor accurate enough to harm the gorilla without a lot of luck. The gorilla is also faster, you won't outpace it. The average human ALSO tires quickly. According to https://ourworldindata.org/obesity , the average male in 2016 had a BMI of 25, which was the cutoff for being overweight. Last I checked, the world has gotten fatter in the last 10 or so years, not thinner. The AVERAGE man is slightly overweight.

I think most people are overestimating the capabilities of the average human male in the modern world, and vastly underestimate the power of peak gorilla.

How do Gorillas usually fight? They very rarely have to contend with more than one at a time, and they usually hit each other and bite, run away, chase, hit each other, repeat until one gives up, or sustains enough injury to give up. Very rarely do you see two alpha male Gorillas fight to the death.

In this scenario, the one silverback and the one hundred humans will not back down, will not run away, and will fight to the death. And Gorillas do tire fairly easily, their fast twitch muscles are bult for short extreme bursts of power, not prolonged fights.

Using the slightly overweight average of males against the prime of Gorillas is a bit disingenuous imo. The average weight of a man in the world is around 160 pounds, not generally considered overweight, but even if we consider them being SLIGHTLY overweight, a hundred of them would still absolutely be enough to tire out one silverback. The Gorilla's speed is a non factor in this fight because no one will be running away, they will face down and fight to the death. And in a battle of attrition, there is just no way for a Silverback to take down one hundred human males before it tires out.

Yes it can take punches and bites effectively, but can it take 200 pokes to the eye? Hits to the balls? Bites to the nipples? Fingers in places they generally don't belong? Last I checked, no amount of muscle is enough to protect those things.

A gorilla, an average gorilla, would lose, easily. The question was a silverback, which is a prime male gorilla who fights other gorillas regularly to keep control of a harem. This is a gorilla who is familiar with fighting not only other gorillas in single combat, but fighting other threats and even other troops. A silverback is well accustomed to fighting, even more so it's accustomed to fighting other primates.




How do Gorillas usually fight? They very rarely have to contend with more than one at a time, and they usually hit each other and bite, run away, chase, hit each other, repeat until one gives up, or sustains enough injury to give up. Very rarely do you see two alpha male Gorillas fight to the death.

In this scenario, the one silverback and the one hundred humans will not back down, will not run away, and will fight to the death. And Gorillas do tire fairly easily, their fast twitch muscles are bult for short extreme bursts of power, not prolonged fights.

Using the slightly overweight average of males against the prime of Gorillas is a bit disingenuous imo. The average weight of a man in the world is around 160 pounds, not generally considered overweight, but even if we consider them being SLIGHTLY overweight, a hundred of them would still absolutely be enough to tire out one silverback. The Gorilla's speed is a non factor in this fight because no one will be running away, they will face down and fight to the death. And in a battle of attrition, there is just no way for a Silverback to take down one hundred human males before it tires out.

Yes it can take punches and bites effectively, but can it take 200 pokes to the eye? Hits to the balls? Bites to the nipples? Fingers in places they generally don't belong? Last I checked, no amount of muscle is enough to protect those things.

Keep in mind that this is a scenario wherein both the Silverback and one hundred humans have no regards for their safety and would just fight to the death.

 

[FieryLou]

Depends if I'm with the humans

 

[Racosharko]

One side of this equation is a specialist in gorilla warfare.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

One side of this equation is a specialist in gorilla warfare.

 

[TachimeSan]

The 800 pound silverback Gorilla, a veteran of a hundred battles, stares down his enemy. A group of hairless, skinny apes, howling in unison. Their skin soft and fragile, their teeth small and harmless, their arms half the size of its own.

The Gorilla scoffs. "oohh ooh ah ah ah" He bellows as he beats his chest.

Usually enough to deter enemies, the Gorilla is confused as the hundred strong ape army merely howls in defiance.

An act of challenge, the Gorilla's eyes turn bloodshot, no one challenges him and walks away unscathed, especially something as fragile and weak as these strange ape.

He charges with a burst of speed, into the throng of apes, knocking down several of them. he pins one down and roars at its face, the strange ape looking back with fiery eyes.

He raises his huge tree-trunks for arms and bears down on its head, shattering it. Then, all of a sudden, another one jumps on its back and tries to put its small arms around his neck.

Its not nearly long enough nor strong enough to do anything.

He jumps around trying to shake it off, when suddenly another one grabs at his feet, then another two clings to his arms. He sways them around, their weight barely enough to deter him.

Casually swatting away the strange apes, the Silverback finds himself piled on by another five.

They punch and scratch, his thick hide proving too strong for anything.

All of a sudden, he feels it. Something, or someone, had cling to his balls, gripping it with all its might. The Gorilla bellows a guttural scream. He pounds away at the ape gripping his balls, when another one jumps at his back and grabs his eyes. The pain is unbearable as this strange creature claw away at his eyes, then another two bites his nipples.

Feeling the most pain he's ever felt in his whole life, he wonders how can these strange apes fight with no honor. He's fought hundreds of other Gorillas, and beaten them. That was how he acquired the title Silverback. And yet, none have faced death as these creatures.

He bites another one causing it to drop to the ground like a broken doll, but another takes it's place. Then another, and another, and another.

The Gorilla contemplates running away.

No.

That would be cowardly, he decides to stand his ground and fight through the pain. The strange apes now swarming him like a pack of rabid dogs. He feels his hair pulled, his nostrils grabbed by tiny fingers, his nipples twisted, his balls gripped, time and time he swats them away, crush their skulls, bite their limbs.

Time and time again they fall.

But time and time again, another takes its place.

A few minutes pass, most of the strange apes lie mangled in the battlefield, staining the ground in red. At the center, 10 of the remaining apes stood, howling and punching the air, triumphant.

The silverback lied at center, still alive, but unable to find the strength to do anything. His eyes were gouged out, his nipples torn off, his balls were practically non-existent. The pain was unbearable, but he neither had the strength nor the will to resist.

Broken and battered, he lied there as the strange apes celebrated and clawed away at his remaining flesh.

 

[RainingFish]

Assuming that everyone fights fearlessly, I'm betting on the men. You could have ten men grab each of its limbs and still have sixty left over to beat it. Chips aren't that much stronger men, but they've been known to have success against gorillas with numbers. One human may be weak, but a hundred of them together are stronger than a gorilla, more massive and have more hands.

 

[Tyranomaster]

The 800 pound silverback Gorilla, a veteran of a hundred battles, stares down his enemy. A group of hairless, skinny apes, howling in unison. Their skin soft and fragile, their teeth small and harmless, their arms half the size of its own.

The Gorilla scoffs. "oohh ooh ah ah ah" He bellows as he beats his chest.

Usually enough to deter enemies, the Gorilla is confused as the hundred strong ape army merely howls in defiance.

An act of challenge, the Gorilla's eyes turn bloodshot, no one challenges him and walks away unscathed, especially something as fragile and weak as these strange ape.

He charges with a burst of speed, into the throng of apes, knocking down several of them. he pins one down and roars at its face, the strange ape looking back with fiery eyes.

He raises his huge tree-trunks for arms and bears down on its head, shattering it. Then, all of a sudden, another one jumps on its back and tries to put its small arms around his neck.

Its not nearly long enough nor strong enough to do anything.

He jumps around trying to shake it off, when suddenly another one grabs at his feet, then another two clings to his arms. He sways them around, their weight barely enough to deter him.

Casually swatting away the strange apes, the Silverback finds himself piled on by another five.

They punch and scratch, his thick hide proving too strong for anything.

All of a sudden, he feels it. Something, or someone, had cling to his balls, gripping it with all its might. The Gorilla bellows a guttural scream. He pounds away at the ape gripping his balls, when another one jumps at his back and grabs his eyes. The pain is unbearable as this strange creature claw away at his eyes, then another two bites his nipples.

Feeling the most pain he's ever felt in his whole life, he wonders how can these strange apes fight with no honor. He's fought hundreds of other Gorillas, and beaten them. That was how he acquired the title Silverback. And yet, none have faced death as these creatures.

He bites another one causing it to drop to the ground like a broken doll, but another takes it's place. Then another, and another, and another.

The Gorilla contemplates running away.

No.

That would be cowardly, he decides to stand his ground and fight through the pain. The strange apes now swarming him like a pack of rabid dogs. He feels his hair pulled, his nostrils grabbed by tiny fingers, his nipples twisted, his balls gripped, time and time he swats them away, crush their skulls, bite their limbs.

Time and time again they fall.

But time and time again, another takes its place.

A few minutes pass, most of the strange apes lie mangled in the battlefield, staining the ground in red. At the center, 10 of the remaining apes stood, howling and punching the air, triumphant.

The silverback lied at center, still alive, but unable to find the strength to do anything. His eyes were gouged out, his nipples torn off, his balls were practically non-existent. The pain was unbearable, but he neither had the strength nor the will to resist.

Broken and battered, he lied there as the strange apes celebrated and clawed away at his remaining flesh.

In a fight to the death, I ask you, how do you intend to kill the gorilla. Gouging the eyes out is very difficult on a gorilla. They're backset, it has extraordinarily strong neck muscles (meaning restraining the head, even when exhausted is nearly impossible), and it's bite is twice that of a lion.

Human punches can't concuss it or break it's bone. Our bite even struggles to harm them. If you can't kill it within a minute or two of dog-piling it while exhausted, it'll recover enough strength to kill another 5 or 10 men. You can't just tire it once, you have to kill it while it's a bit tired.

I just fail to see how a human can kill it. Exhaustion just means it's fighting at a fraction of its strength, it isn't some magical thing that just causes it to die. Hypothetically it could die from exhaustion, but 100 humans isn't nearly enough for that.