Is Gender Bender tag ruined?

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Prince_Azmiran_Myrian

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Half right. My dad had to read through a collection of the Apocrypha for his work (at the Toledo Public Library) when they were published (around 1990). He said most of it was garbage and reasonably cut from the New Testament - but those books DO exist. The Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas and, IIRC, three others (I think one was the Gospel of Mary Magdalene as well but not sure of that one).
The issue i saw was saying they were from the dead sea scrolls. New testament stuff was not there because of timeline.
Gnostic books aren't even considered apocryphal.
 

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The issue i saw was saying they were from the dead sea scrolls. New testament stuff was not there because of timeline.
Gnostic books aren't even considered apocryphal.
Ah, my bad with the history part. Thought they were found together. And the advance press I saw listed the Gnostic Gospels as apocrypha - I never saw more than the dust jacket myself.
 

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Why does every thread I follow become 'last to comment wins'
I'm winning currently by reminding everyone that meaning of a word in its use. If one can't describe "gender bending" properly and instead uses a definition that differs from the accepted meaning and the originator, one must be silent.
Fine, I ammend my statement.

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Smash, next question
 

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Ah, my bad with the history part. Thought they were found together. And the advance press I saw listed the Gnostic Gospels as apocrypha - I never saw more than the dust jacket myself.
Ok, hold on. Maybe some misunderstanding on my part. By definition i suppose they are apocryphal, but gnostic books are not a part of the Apocrypha, a set of books the Roman Catholic church recognizes.
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Apocrypha is apocryphal old testament.
Gnostic is apocryphal new testament text.
 

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I would not say it's ruined, per se. Changed, for sure. Expanded, maybe. You could perhaps even argue it was highjacked. But not ruined.
Even original GB tended to include gender identity in some form, even if nobody would call it trans then. Gender-bent characters would express their denial, later confusion and finally acceptance. But compared to explicitly trans stories, it was more subdued, and often used for comedic effect.

As for me, I have not tired of them yet. I'm more cautious when choosing them, as a good number of them now have significant focus on gender identity and subsequently the related politics/political correctness. They can be so foccussed on it, they forget to tell an actual story. Those are always a turn-off. But there are trans stories which get the balance right, neither drowning in the topic, nor glossing over it, and there are still some traditional GB stories too.

In my opinion, gender bender is not the same as trans, and should not be treated as such. Ostensibly, trans is a form of gender bender, but gender bender does not have to be trans, depending on the intended theme and focus.
Trans obviously deals more with the... well, trans topics, while GB focusses less on those aspects, and more on just swapping the gender of a character - either a pre-existing one, or one created for the story - which understandably comes with typically feminine or masculine traits.
Well, yes, things do change if the point of focus is the change in gender. My point was that I find more appeal in trans characters than I do this idea of a gender bent character. I'm not really fond of it at all. I was just trying to keep that opinion out of my point lol
 
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