Grammar

Phantonym

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What is the best way to check for grammar? Also is using a grammar checker against the rules?
 

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It isn't.

The grammar checker is not considered AI. At least, on the normal sites...

So, you could use the programs like Grammarly or Pro Writing Aid, not to mention that every text editor has the grammar checker of its own.

If you are, however, looking for feedback, it's better to not ask on the forum and instead find the volunteer who is willing to proof-read your work.
 

Phantonym

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It isn't.

The grammar checker is not considered AI. At least, on the normal sites...

So, you could use the programs like Grammarly or Pro Writing Aid, not to mention that every text editor has the grammar checker of its own.

If you are, however, looking for feedback, it's better to not ask on the forum and instead find the volunteer who is willing to proof-read your work.
Ok, are you willing? :blob_aww:
 

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Ok, are you willing? :blob_aww:
The problem is, English isn't my first language, so any feedback would be rather detriment to syntax and grammar. I could read the story, context wise, but I wouldn't recognize the grammatical error even if it hit me with the hammer.
 

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no grammar checkers are fine. the only issue is stories completely generated by AI. also the best is honestly preference. i use and pay for Grammarly premium and its never let me down
 

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The problem is, English isn't my first language, so any feedback would be rather detriment to syntax and grammar. I could read the story, context wise, but I wouldn't recognize the grammatical error even if it hit me with the hammer.
Okay that's all I really need, I'll hit grammarly up for grammar
 

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I use the Pro Writing Aid myself. Not sure if it actually is any better, but I feel it is less prone to the corporate speech and goes better with the Google Docs.
 

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Technically tools like ProWritingAid count legally as AI-assisted.

Most people don't understand the nuance between Assisted and Generated, so they flinch in revulsion at seeing the word AI.

My car is loaded with AI features for safety. Phone autocorrect and email keep suggesting words is AI-assisted.

Professional writers absolutely use AI to help them, and professional editors also do.

The important part is that it's just one tool in the pile they use. They don't listen to all of its suggestions (it's often wrong), and they don't rely only on it.

Should you, as a new writer, use tools to help you write better? Absolutely.

Will some people look down on you if you rely on "Rephrase" or "sparks" too much? Yes

Especially until it's normalized. In the meantime, well...

Most people keep quiet about it for a reason. It's a minefield.
 

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I have used pro writing aid and while I do love it, it seems to be deathly allergic to adverbs. Which probably says more about me than it does the AI but I’m just a descriptive person.

It’s decent with grammar and the rephrases do help sometimes but more often than not when I read them aloud they just don’t seem to ‘word’ as well as what I originally wrote.

But as far as catching basic grammar it’s pretty good.
 

Phantonym

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Yeah, that's why it's important to know when to click ignore and say "this is my voice, I will not budge on that one."
I have used pro writing aid and while I do love it, it seems to be deathly allergic to adverbs. Which probably says more about me than it does the AI but I’m just a descriptive person.

It’s decent with grammar and the rephrases do help sometimes but more often than not when I read them aloud they just don’t seem to ‘word’ as well as what I originally wrote.

But as far as catching basic grammar it’s pretty good.
Are you guys willing to give me feedback on my novel? If it will let you get to it. https://www.scribblehub.com/read/1389504-a-gods-punishment/chapter/1391449/
 

RepresentingCaution

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This is a great idea I never thought of before! Do you have any recommendations for TTS/AI narration apps?
I just use whatever I don't have to pay for. I paid $70 for software a decade ago. Now everything is a subscription, and I don't like subscriptions.
 

Phantonym

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there is some free stuff out there that is decent, I saw one at one point where you could use multiple ai voices and choose which speaks when
 

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For grammar, I recommend using QuillBot first, then DeepL. Keep in mind that DeepL likes to rewrite the stuff you have written, so keep an eye on it. ProWritingAid is also a good helper, but it hates words like "was" and asks you to rewrite sentences. Just copy and paste, say, Tolkien or Ursula, and see how low a score it gives them. If you're going to use these programs, don't chase the score; aim for fluency, clear understanding, and what makes sense (to you). Also do a "which" hunt.
 
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