RoyalRoad- aka Censorship Road

[RedMuffin]

Are you using this as an excuse to look at cat-girls in tight outfits? Did this thread taught you nothing?

You know, we never said cat girls. The original agreement was cat pictures and the only reason that cat girls pass the definition is because they're partly cat.

 

[beast_regards]

You know, we never said cat girls. The original agreement was cat pictures and the only reason that cat girls pass the definition is because they're partly cat.

What is the measure of cat in comparison to Kanadaj's measure of teen?

 

[RedMuffin]

What is the measure of cat in comparison to Kanadaj's measure of teen?

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Please elaborate.

 

[beast_regards]

I don't quite understand what you're saying. Please elaborate.

Says things. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves.

 

[RedMuffin]

Says things. Refuses to elaborate. Leaves.

 

[Lysander_Works]

This has happened to other on RR before. You are not the first, nor are you going insane. If you still wish to proceed with your existence on RR, one more thing you could try is, having a much more innocent looking cover and description (as a secret place holder), wait for approval, then after approval, swap the cover and description with what you were initially to have. A hidden bait and switch, but in fairness they are not following their own guidelines by your receipts. It may also be worth seeing if different site admins allow this kind of behavior ~ if you are not violating any of the submission rules yet get rejected anyway, it could become a conflict of interest for them later, assuming the admin is not all the same person and assuming they all care, bla bla bla.

Not certain if my first idea will work, cause the cover being changed may also require submission time, but I'd wait it out for two days or something first, let the dust settle so it goes a bit under the radar.

If all else fails, just keep this forum post up and explain the benefits of SH (on a RR forum). Maybe some people will leave the site and come here. At the very least, people will understand what is going on.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I don't have any strength left to read and comprehend, give me a tldr of the drama.

 

[Corty]

I don't have any strength left to read and comprehend, give me a tldr of the drama.

"Thicc bad, flat is justice." Moderator John of Royalest Roads

Or something like that.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

"Thicc bad, flat is justice." Moderator John of Royalest Roads

Spoiler: ...

 

[Seaspecter]

Hello srwoods,

That seems fine. The implication is disturbing but the joke does not cross the line so you wouldn't be punished for this.

Regards,
Moderator John,
Royal Road team

I've traumatized Moderator John with my jokes before.

 

[beast_regards]

Not certain if my first idea will work, cause the cover being changed may also require submission time, but I'd wait it out for two days or something first, let the dust settle so it goes a bit under the radar.

It used to be instant. You could had changed the tags (especially the risky ones) too...

The mods (or mod, since they aren't many of them if you don't count priviledged accounts) aren't particularly attentive, they are just heavy handed.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

"Thicc bad, flat is justice." Moderator John of Royalest Roads

Or something like that.

That's Moderator Womp to you.

 

[Paul__Michaels]

Wow. This thread went nuts. I'm sad I missed all the fun.

 

[AuroraAvengarde]

So you're saying no one will look at that woman in a onesie and say "hey I'm turned on and would like to get intimate."

Like I told Muffin:

Projection​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

No one, will look at your cover and think "thick body, I want some of that."

Like I told Muffin:

Projection​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

I mean, if you believe that, then you do you.

No, thats literally reality.

"Psychological projection is a defence mechanism of alterity concerning "inside" content mistaken to be coming from the "outside" Other."

"Other is a term used to define another person or people as separate from oneself."

Other (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Psychological projection - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Accodring to AI:
Sexy is a more broad definition of allure,
Sexual in nature implies a desire for physical contact.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner! So when Muffin said it was "sexual" he was...projecting. My character in the image isn't wearing the spacesuit to be sexy or because she is desiring of physical contact. Neither am I when I wear a leotard, bathing suit, bodysuit (not the fetish wear bruh) or onesies. Or any short skirts or low cut attire.

If someone finds it sexy, that is fine. But they should keep their thoughts to themselves unless said person is flirting or indicating an active interest in said persons thoughts or feelings regarding them and their attire. Thats basic respect.

As for the image or media like that, they can say what they think freely. I dont have a problem with it. If you think my girl is sexy, thats great! But its still not the inherent nature of the image itself. So when Muffin said it was "sexual" he was implying that it was inherently sexual in nature. Do you get it now?

Muffin used these words. I correctly pointed out the flaw in his logic. He called that a personal attack.

The point being made is that there are enough people who'd want to 'bonk' your character on the cover. Therefore, it is sexual in nature... and all your statements about 'projecting'...

No, therefore it is projection. You wanting to bonk a woman in certain attire does not make them "sexual" in nature. That is a YOU thing, bruh. Not a me or an us thing.

You see, I did not missunderstand Muffin, just like I am not missunderstanding you. You are the ones missunderstanding and making the assumptions. lol. I'm highlighting the key words for you so you can keep up.

Projection​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

They both overlap a ton, and this whole thing is semantics. If you disagree with that, it's fine too, there is no point in arguing over semantics.

No actually they dont. This is what you learn when you take Psychology 101.

Hence, why I told Muffin I was willing to agree to disagree, and, that I did disagree with him 100%. He is the one who kept insisting I didnt understand which was his mistake.

As far as projecting, You're the one projecting your insecurities of things being potentially sexual in nature. None of us really care one way or the other.

Not at all. Thats how this works. Muffin's first post was "That image is sexual." As you correctly stated above, that is a totally different thing from saying it is sexy.

Which is projection:

Projection in psychology explained​

Medically reviewed by Joslyn Jelinek, LCSW, ACSW, RDDP — Written by Mandy French on August 1, 2023

"Projection is when an individual unconsciously projects their thoughts, feelings, or behaviors onto someone else."

Projection in psychology: Definition, signs, and more

Projection is when a person projects their thoughts or feelings onto another. It can occur for various reasons. Learn more here.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

The only problem in this thread is that RedMuffin wanted you to understand what he was saying and somehow you refused to do so and started attacking him (saying someone is projecting without understanding what it is, is an attack) instead of just trying to understand his statement. Even if you disagreed, that's fine, but there's no need to go off on tangents.

So here's the thing. He is the one with the missunderstanding here. Not me. I didn't missunderstand anything...I disagreed with him. And. He kept wanting to argue...just like you.

I told him two times that I was not willing to argue or debate the topic any further because I realized it was a waste of time, he wasn't going to change my mind, yes I did understand his point/s, and no that did not change my conclusion. And he kept at it.

Then...he said I was making a personal attack because I correctly described what he was doing and saying as...projection. Then someone on here accused me of reacting with emotion. Lets get it straight, Muffin was the one reacting with emotion when he felt that the term projection was a "personal attack" on him. And you too, Anon. Not me.

Im not angry about anything. Im just tired of wasting my time with argumentative people when the debate or conversation is clearly not going to yield any worthwhile results. My time is precious to me.

No one on here has any right to demand a conversation with someone else when that person has indicated they are unwilling to argue a point any further, or continue a certain conversation. Nobody is entitled to that.

Anyway, what we do agree on:

We all hate censorship.
Your cover is good with all of us here, whether we think it's sexual in nature or not.

So Welcome to SHF.

Good. I can agree on that. But I still disagree about all the other stuff and I didnt missunderstand anything.

But, as I said before when I tried to avoid all this meaningless arguing, I can also agree to disagree.

So lets agree to disagree!

Thank you!

 

[AnonUnlimited]

Like I told Muffin:

Projection​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

Like I told Muffin:

Projection​

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff
Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.


"Projection is when an individual unconsciously projects their thoughts, feelings, or behaviors onto someone else."

I am going to say it, you really are an insufferable person due to your own insecurities.

Even by your definition of projection, you're the one projecting your frustration on us trying to bully everyone into saying you're right about other people projecting because you can't see, or just refuse to see it yourself.

The only one here gaslighting and projecting is you.

 

[AuroraAvengarde]

I am going to say it, you really are an insufferable person due to your own insecurities.

Even by your definition of projection, you're the one projecting your frustration on us trying to bully everyone into saying you're right about other people projecting because you can't see, or just refuse to see it yourself.

The only one here gaslighting and projecting is you.

No, you are wrong and your facts and logic are incorrect. And if you dont like me, fine.

I dont have a problem with you personally. Because I am not reacting from emotion, as someone incorrectly said earlier. I just disagree with you.

I can agree to disagree. If you dont want to...fine. But I am not the insufferable one in this scenario. And by the way...you are projecting with that one. :)

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Hey! I want to be one of the cool kids as well! I find this cover to be sexual, as in, this girl sexually attracts me. Do you have her number? I'm willing to become 2D, won't lose any weight though, that's too much.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

No, you are wrong and your facts and logic are incorrect. And if you dont like me, fine.

I dont have a problem with you personally. Because I am not reacting from emotion, as someone incorrectly said earlier. I just disagree with you.

I can agree to disagree. If you dont want to...fine. But I am not the insufferable one in this scenario. And by the way...you are projecting with that one. :)

I don't like to accuse others of projecting because the accusation of projecting in it of itself, can easily be a form of projection. Saying someone is projecting is an attack on them, brings out no actual conversation or understanding, and in it of itself is bullying.

One you accuse someone of projecting, they'll get defensive and try to prove that they are 'not projecting' but in general, you started it.

This was the conversation:

Well, that image is sexual tho.

No, thats just you projecting.

Just like a woman with a curvy body in the real world isn't 'sexual' just because shes built like that. Its because you looked and thought that.

And like I told John...that isnt my fault or my problem. If they want to make it my problem, I'll just go somewhere else.

No, I am not projecting. I'm using valid references to make a judgment.

No. First of all, I feel that's a personal attack and not an opinion, and secondly, it's sexual because of the style of the clothes on this specific character. That is my judgment on this specific image.

No thats literally you projecting. LOL. Maybe you love censorship but most the rest of us dont.

Granted, Muffin's opening wasn't great, but going into an accusation of projecting, then trying to say you 'understood' what's going on?

This is where everything stemmed from.
Then it went off on a tangent about standards.

If you just said you disagreed without saying he was projecting, all this is avoided.

Edit: And I just have to add, for someone who is posting psychology articles, you don't even understand the basics of communication with someone you disagree with.

 

[AuroraAvengarde]

I don't like to accuse others of projecting because the accusation of projecting in it of itself, can easily be a form of projection. Saying someone is projecting is an attack on them, brings out no actual conversation or understanding, and in it of itself is bullying.

One you accuse someone of projecting, they'll get defensive and try to prove that they are 'not projecting' but in general, you started it.

This was the conversation:





Granted, Muffin's opening wasn't great, but going into an accusation of projecting, then trying to say you 'understood' what's going on?

This is where everything stemmed from.
Then it went off on a tangent about standards.

If you just said you disagreed without saying he was projecting, all this is avoided.

Edit: And I just have to add, for someone who is posting psychology articles, you don't even understand the basics of communication with someone you disagree with.

Wow. This thread went nuts. I'm sad I missed all the fun.

Nah, just people who get angry when people disagree with them. ?

 

[AnonUnlimited]

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Nah, just people who get angry when people disagree with them. ?

Nope, stop gaslighting.
People got upset when you accused them of projecting.