Isekai definition change.

[Fried_Chicken]

Currently the definition is vague, when the crux of what is expected form an isekai is for the story to be told from the lense of someone form our earth or one functionally identical.

Currently, shows such as Stargate and Star Trek would qualify as isekai when its not what anyone expects from an isekai.

Furthermore, lately the fanfiction isekai genre has been inundated with amnesia-isekai stories that don't offer what is expected from an isekai story. They take a cheap way and start with a blank slate that is nearly identical to the farm boy trope.

I suggest using the reincarnation tag for when a person is given another life without their sense of self contained within those lost memories.

Otherworldly knowledge can be useful for when some memories are retained but most lost.

Portal fantasy can used for when the Mc has the ability to world hop back and forth to earth like say in the Gate series.

This leaves the isekai tag solely for when the Mc is placed in another world with their sense of self intact.without the ability to return home af all, or return home easily.

Tldr: The isekai tag is almost useless Currently and rendered moot when paired with the amnesia trope. Let's make the category much more concise.
For those who disagree please comment why.

 

[Rhaps]

Isekai isn't necessary philosophical, you are throwing basically an alien into another world, think Superman, externally he look no different from a human but biological very much different.

 

[Fried_Chicken]

This feel like a version of Theseus' ship, whereas the ship don't change but the captain change. Is it still the same ship? Yes, to the very soul and body, but is the one driving it the same? No.

Changing one component doesn't make it the an entirely different thing, the crew in this sense is muscle memory, different orders same action.

In the end it is still a being sent to another dimension, the very core of isekai. Memory or not, it is the same as sending someone to another world.

The voices in your head can't interact with physical matter. Or are you isekaid, and the previous owner of your body is in there somewhere?

Keep going it needs to make another lap around the house.

Keep going it needs to make another lap around the house.

2 sentences 2 shots. I'm gonna regret this in the morning.

 

[Corty]

2 sentences 2 shots. I'm gonna regret this in the morning.

You are already replying to yourself; better ask your friends to take over the wheel. Or you are just an alcoholic. Sadge.

 

[Rhaps]

You are already replying to yourself; better ask your friends to take over the wheel. Or you are just an alcoholic. Sadge.

Ngl this is entertaining af.

 

[Corty]

Ngl this is entertaining af.

Yep. It made my Saturday morning.

 

[Fried_Chicken]

You are already replying to yourself; better ask your friends to take over the wheel. Or you are just an alcoholic. Sadge.

They just get combined after editing for typos, but wait is " sadge" a whole sentence by itself?, ehh whatever we roll!

 

[Anonjohn20]

Then I won. Wohooo!

PS: If you had read my reply, you would know I had already given you an answer.

Now I get why you are this fixated on changing things. You don't understand what you read, do you? If you had read past the 2nd sentence, you would have realized I had already answered you.

Tl;dr

It comes down to your having a reading comprehension issue. I am genuinely sorry that I called you a retard; I didn't know you really had issues with reading; I thought you were just a stuck-up dense idiot.

He's made a lot of assertions, and then whenever anyone tries to discuss the topic with him rather than blindly accepting whatever he demands we accept as truth, they are:
1. oppressing him with the "rule of the majority."
2. behaving like sore losers.
3. acting in bad faith.

Not even when people pulled up definitions from the dictionary did he admit he was wrong. As for his claim that amnesia leads to personality changes and ego death, lets consult the experts:

 

[Fried_Chicken]

Ngl this is entertaining af.

The funniest part is that the ceespit of reddit actually agrees with me more than everyone here disagrees, at least when it comes to amnesia and isekai. Found a post of savage divinity being ripped on for this exact issue.

 

[Corty]

He's made a lot of assertions, and then whenever anyone tries to discuss the topic with him rather than blindly accepting whatever he demands we accept as truth, they are:
1. oppressing him with the "rule of the majority."
2. behaving like sore losers.
3. acting in bad faith.

Not even when people pulled up definitions from the dictionary did he admit he was wrong. As for his claim that amnesia leads to personality changes and ego death, lets consult the experts:
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Yeah, it was fun to read the thread. I always wondered about those users who only dish out 1-star reviews and complaints because they can't enjoy anything in life. A symptom coming from their self-proclaimed superiority. Now, I finally met one in the flesh.

Also, I already reported the thread to be locked because it is pointless to keep it going.

 

[Fried_Chicken]

He's made a lot of assertions, and then whenever anyone tries to discuss the topic with him rather than blindly accepting whatever he demands we accept as truth, they are:
1. oppressing him with the "rule of the majority."
2. behaving like sore losers.
3. acting in bad faith.

Not even when people pulled up definitions from the dictionary did he admit he was wrong. As for his claim that amnesia leads to personality changes and ego death, lets consult the experts:
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I can prove you wrong easily and simply.

A guy gets isekaied with everything but his name due to amnesia. He was Richard the 2nd, and intended to name his first born son Richard the 3rd. Now he names his son something totally different because he forgot his name.

Different actions taken when other actions would have been taken with all memories= different person.

Yeah, it was fun to read the thread. I always wondered about those users who only dish out 1-star reviews and complaints because they can't enjoy anything in life. A symptom coming from their self-proclaimed superiority. Now, I finally met one in the flesh.

Also, I already reported the thread to be locked because it is pointless to keep it going.

Also arguments from authority Mean nothing. Particularly when describing real life amnesia vs what is used in isekai stories.

 

[Anonjohn20]

The funniest part is that the ceespit of reddit actually agrees with me more than everyone here disagrees, at least when it comes to amnesia and isekai. Found a post of savage divinity being ripped on for this exact issue.

So the place known for being an echo chamber has people that agree with you when everyone else disagrees with you? Who would have thought.?

Also, I already reported the thread to be locked because it is pointless to keep it going.

Oh no, you're oppressing him!

 

[Fried_Chicken]

So the place known for being an echo chamber has people that agree with you when everyone else disagrees with you? Who would have thought.?


Oh no, you're oppressing him!

It wasn't even me that posted it. Two years old from someone else. But it's nice of you to make assumptions. Makes you look like an ass.

https://www.reddit.com/r/litrpg/comments/ya5939

 

[Corty]

I can prove you wrong easily and simply.

A guy gets isekaied with everything but his name due to amnesia. He was Richard the 2nd, and intended to name his first born son Richard the 3rd. Now he names his son something totally different because he forgot his name.

Different actions taken when other actions would have been taken with all memories= different person.

My dude... really... A name =/= personality. The Nomen est Omen quote is not applicable here.

Don't you realize it already? When your thread stands at -17, and nobody agrees with you, it is no longer a "them" issue. It is a YOU issue. Maybe start considering that the people are not wrong, YOU are.

Oh no, you're oppressing him!

Good. Village idiots used to be oppressed so they wouldn't bring shame to the villagers.

 

[Fried_Chicken]

My dude... really... A name =/= personality. The Nomen est Omen quote is not applicable here.

Don't you realize it already? When your thread stands at -17, and nobody agrees with you, it is no longer a "them" issue. It is a YOU issue. Maybe start considering that the people are not wrong, YOU are.


Good. Village idiots used to be oppressed so they wouldn't bring shame to the villagers.

Galileo was oppressed for being correct as well. The self righteousness among is laughable. Amnesia of any kind defeats the entire purpose of the isekai genre period. Nothing will change my mind.

 

[Rhaps]

The funniest part is that the ceespit of reddit actually agrees with me more than everyone here disagrees, at least when it comes to amnesia and isekai. Found a post of savage divinity being ripped on for this exact issue.

You know most of the people using SHF are authors, so we are not creatively challenged. An Amnesia Isekai is super interesting as a concept, for me at least

 

[Fried_Chicken]

You know most of the people using SHF are authors, so we are not creatively challenged. An Amnesia Isekai is super interesting as a concept, for me at least

Perhaps of its not simply used to escape having any kid of backstory, and shows true amnesia and not comical amnesia as we see in stories and soap operas. I have yet to any such story though.

 

[Corty]

Galileo was oppressed for being correct as well. The self righteousness among is laughable. Amnesia of any kind defeats the entire purpose of the isekai genre period. Nothing will change my mind

The issue is that Galileo was right because he could prove it, and the church had no rebuttal to his findings. You, on the other hand, refuse to face the rebuttals. In this situation here, we are the Galileos, and you are the church.

 

[Fried_Chicken]

You know most of the people using SHF are authors, so we are not creatively challenged. An Amnesia Isekai is super interesting as a concept, for me at least

Most of the authors on scribblehub are bad authors lol. They'll one star in retribution just for your politics. Total snowflakes.

The issue is that Galileo was right because he could prove it, and the church had no rebuttal to his findings. You, on the other hand, refuse to face the rebuttals. In this situation here, we are the Galileos, and you are the church.

I faced all rebuttals. Aside from you, because you replied about some farmboy reincarnated thing I never talked about. Most people here I just backed into a corner and they stopped responding.

 

[Corty]

I faced all rebuttals. Aside from you, because you replied about some farmboy reincarnated thing I never talked about. Most people here I just backed into a corner and they stopped responding.

Cap.

Most of the authors on scribblehub are bad authors lol. They'll one star in retribution just for your politics. Total snowflakes.

You are retarded.

 

[Rhaps]

Most of the authors on scribblehub are bad authors lol. They'll one star in retribution just for your politics. Total snowflakes.

Ah yes, me, bad author, maybe, but at least I enjoy and stick with my story. My moto is always write for the fun of it.
And snowflake? Really? Aren't you projecting?