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great_sloth

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I just don't get why people troll in internet, aren't you guys scared of retaliation?

What if the guy you trolled decided to dedicate all his time to learn hacking? He will learn your IP, passwords, emails, and when he saw you being in your happiest moment he decides to go to your house then kill you.
 

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I just don't get why people troll in internet, aren't you guys scared of retaliation?
They think they are being cool, so best way to deal with it is through ignoring them.
What if the guy you trolled decided to dedicate all his time to learn hacking? He will learn your IP, passwords, emails, and when he saw you being in your happiest moment he decides to go to your house then kill you.
Well, it's a possibility, but to fixate on someone worthless means there's something wrong with you as well.
 

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I think I need to add some credibility to my words. Currently my rating is 3.6, I have 34 1-star ratings. I don't think anything has to be changed at all. Tony removes bot or troll ratings if you care about them and ask him. On the other hand, readers can get at least somewhat fair ratings and reviews to decide whether they should spend their limited time on reading a story. It's not perfect, but no system is perfect.
 

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There are a lot of unscrupulous authors. That's the most obvious, short, and real answer. If you think there are not, just look at WN and people who delete every review below 5 stars.
I get your point. I am not asking to give authors all the control. I don't see how letting users downvote reviews if they disagree hurts them. On the contrary, all my suggestions improve their experience just as much: readers get a more accurate rating because more people voted, see how other users agree with the novel review, and prompt them to rate/like because they often forget, even if they enjoyed what they read.
 

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Webnovel’s rating/reviewing/commenting system sucks.

Pirates often delete all the reviews, ratings, comments that regular users post on those novels pointing out that they stole someone else’s work, and the admins of Webnovel refuse to respond or delete those pirated novels for months, and even years at a time, if they ever do decide to remove the novels from the site.

I really don’t see how that fosters a good look?

At least on SH, our moderators actually take the time to humanly look through reports. I would say it’s the same on RR, with actual mods that do care. Webnovel has a horrible rating system.
Nope. RR is the worst. I still remember when I was writing an Original, they removed my work calling it illegal copy and moneymaking. Then I found out that some mofo joined my Patreon, stole that book, and posted it on a Russian site as his own. I tried to tell the admins but they didn't even care and outright removed it. I eventually posted it on Webnovel and took their shady contract. I sold them my book's copyright and the editor took care of the rest. So, nope. RR is the worst. As for Scribblehub, there isn't any way to block the trolls. Anyone can spam 1-star ratings and drop books and you have no way of knowing who and why. For someone who is posting starting from WN to Amazon and all other sites, I know. RR and SH have the worst rating system. This is my personal opinion as an independent author. Neither SH or RR can protect my Copyright either way. And WN outright takes away your copyright, but at least you know no one will be able to steal your work.
 

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Nah! I know I can't do something about him nor did I cry and twist my panties for all the 1 star rating I got in the past. But that is not the same every writers. We are here for fun, to learn and to improve if possible. Do you really understand how hard it is for some of the new writer who just start writing to get a 1 star rating. Would you even read a story that have very low rating? Have you? We only give low rating when it didn't worth reading.

So, we should just the troll to troll us just because they are troll?
One or two one stars wont change my ratings anyway but i never gave a damn about that to begin with. Its only annoying when they go into long rants about the story but it boils down to pet peeves or impatience over matters that get addressed a couple chapters later. Regarless, If your stories cant withstand a few trolls then you DO have a problem, my friend. Your foundation needs to be thick and solid, like my cock when the milf from two doors down goes out in that tight silvery dress
 

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It's the worst system, since a lot of authors only keep 5 stars.
But better than SH or RR atleast. Here most spam 1 star ratings. I faced it many times, did reported them, but nothing happened. So, yeah, if there wasn't any tapping ratings system, then it would be better.
 

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But better than SH or RR atleast. Here most spam 1 star ratings. I faced it many times, did reported them, but nothing happened. So, yeah, if there wasn't any tapping ratings system, then it would be better.
Sold your soul and now defending one of the worst sites, eh? So why is it you are here if this place is so bad anyway?
 

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Nope. RR is the worst. I still remember when I was writing an Original, they removed my work calling it illegal copy and moneymaking. Then I found out that some mofo joined my Patreon, stole that book, and posted it on a Russian site as his own. I tried to tell the admins but they didn't even care and outright removed it. I eventually posted it on Webnovel and took their shady contract. I sold them my book's copyright and the editor took care of the rest. So, nope. RR is the worst. As for Scribblehub, there isn't any way to block the trolls. Anyone can spam 1-star ratings and drop books and you have no way of knowing who and why. For someone who is posting starting from WN to Amazon and all other sites, I know. RR and SH have the worst rating system. This is my personal opinion as an independent author. Neither SH or RR can protect my Copyright either way. And WN outright takes away your copyright, but at least you know no one will be able to steal your work.
You’re no longer an independent author the moment you sign a contract with a shady webnovel publishing company, even after forfeiting all rights to them.

... A company taking away your copyright... doesn’t prevent it from being stolen, though? What you’re saying is that to prevent robbers from robbing your house, your house needs to be robbed before those robbers rob.
 

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But better than SH or RR atleast. Here most spam 1 star ratings. I faced it many times, did reported them, but nothing happened. So, yeah, if there wasn't any tapping ratings system, then it would be better.
Maybe it's because the one who gave you 1 star was not a troll? This will happen. Your story is not perfect, and rating system is prone to interpretation. Does it represents the quality, or how much you've enjoyed it? People can give you an answer, but can't force you to follow the same interpretation. If a person read a couple of chapters, and felt it was bad, they can give you 1 star. The difference between your case and the one in the thread is that Hopper publicly announced he is going to do it after reading a reply in a thread. Not after reading HuaiChi's story, plus his previous behavior is taken into consideration.

Also, WN has the worst system. It's not better. Letting authors delete reviews allows the unscrupulous ones to have the best rating. If you are serious about writing, unless you abandon your principles and do the same, you won't be able to beat them. Here you can beat any troll or shitty author if you are good enough and know what you are doing.
I get your point. I am not asking to give authors all the control. I don't see how letting users downvote reviews if they disagree hurts them. On the contrary, all my suggestions improve their experience just as much: readers get a more accurate rating because more people voted, see how other users agree with the novel review, and prompt them to rate/like because they often forget, even if they enjoyed what they read.
You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism. It is something that happens with upvoting reviews that has nothing but praise in them, shoving reviews with valid criticism down, where readers will have a higher chance to miss them.

Being able to reply is redundant. If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it. If it's not complete bullshit, what's the reason to reply to it? I can't see any. I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.

About your other suggestion. You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining. I wrote smut before I hiatused, and another dude wrote smut at the same time I started. His novel was more entertaining so he got more comments and hearts. My story was more divisive since it had lesser quality, and at the same time it had more clickbaity title, so I got more reviews(at the time). That's how it works.
 
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I always post finished works, so maybe this is why I don't care much about reviews. But I still love my stories dearly, even if I could've written them better. I guess it's hard to hit perfection, but those comments still sting at times. I've learned that if it isn't constructive, to ignore it. People there seem to love to give 1* to everything, especially in RR.


Strangely, I still haven't hit those folks, but it seems they are everywhere. Good rotten apples always make the rest look bad, too.


Gosh, if I ever post stories from when I was a teen, :blob_no: I think I'd die.


I think we will always care, but I think what will always help is the people we allow to escape with our stories. :blob_aww: And those are why I keep posting for the few who might enjoy my stories.

I use Patreon and offer early access chapters and I also am writing web serials right now. My finished series "Her Beasts" was around half a million words for the five volumes, but my current series will likely end up being close to double that unless everyone loses interest and I have to cut things short. I've been trying to speed up the pace a bit, but there are only so many floors of a 25 floor dungeon that I can cover in one volume before it just completely ruins the pacing of the story. I don't really think I could spend 5 years writing a story and then several more posting a story if I wasn't posting it as I was writing it. Besides which, with Patreon and early access chapters, it just works better if you're writing and posting as you go along. If you're going to have like 12 volumes ready to go at once, you may as well be posting it to Amazon and, even then, you won't make as much as you would with early access Patreon chapters. Of course, there is also the unique part of my current work where my Patreon readers enjoy voting on which theme to have for the next floor and all that to consider, but yeah it's just that longer series don't work well to complete them first.

I actually didn't post every story I wrote when I was a teen. Some of them I just never finished, another one if semi-fan-fiction and super cringey, and others I simply lost my copy of the story and couldn't post them if I wanted to. A lot of people, especially on Inkitt, are actually enjoying my cringey stories I wrote when I was a teen. They like romance mostly over there so it's helpful to have some completed romance stories over there to establish myself as a writer and convince them to give my newer work a try. Very few people trust new writers to finish what they started and, since my new work is so long, they won't be posted in full for two years for my Her Beasts series and even longer for my dungeon work, so that's a bit long to wait. So, it was mostly an advertising decision that I made rather than one based on my own willingness to share my older work. I'm glad some people are enjoying it, but there's no denying that I can do better now.
 
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If you're going to have like 12 volumes ready to go at once, you may as well be posting it to Amazon and, even then, you won't make as much as you would with early access Patreon chapters. Of course, there is also the unique part of my current work where my Patreon readers enjoy voting on which theme to have for the next floor and all that to consider, but yeah it's just that longer series don't work well to complete them first.
That's actually like an interactive story! :blob_aww:
 

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You’re no longer an independent author the moment you sign a contract with a shady webnovel publishing company, even after forfeiting all rights to them.

... A company taking away your copyright... doesn’t prevent it from being stolen, though? What you’re saying is that to prevent robbers from robbing your house, your house needs to be robbed before those robbers rob.
Yeah, they take the copyright, but doesn't interfere with my work, and at least that thief got taken down. And yes, it stops theft. Heck, they even compensated me for the theft later. And taking a contract doesn't mean I'm not an independent author lol. It's just for 1 book, not all my work. I don't have money to hire lawyers or do anything of that level to protect my copyright. It was the best option at that time.
 

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One or two one stars wont change my ratings anyway but i never gave a damn about that to begin with. Its only annoying when they go into long rants about the story but it boils down to pet peeves or impatience over matters that get addressed a couple chapters later. Regarless, If your stories cant withstand a few trolls then you DO have a problem, my friend. Your foundation needs to be thick and solid, like my cock when the milf from two doors down goes out in that tight silvery dress
How can this mere mortal be compared to the ungodliness of such godly beings as you???
 

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Sold your soul and now defending one of the worst sites, eh? So why is it you are here if this place is so bad anyway?
Sold nothing. LOL. ?? It's not about defending or accusing any site. It's all about facts. Does SH and RR have a way to stop theft or stop trolls? NONE. Maybe the admin can remove book thieves, but that's a long process. Can WN stop theft or trolls? Yes, almost instantly. And most people hate WN because of the locked chapters. I know that. And I only said RR and SH have the worst rating system and never said this site is the worst. So, get your priorities straight, it will help you in life.
Maybe it's because the one who gave you 1 star was not a troll? This will happen. Your story is not perfect, and rating system is prone to interpretation. Does it represents the quality, or how much you've enjoyed it? People can give you an answer, but can't force you to follow the same interpretation. If a person read a couple of chapters, and felt it was bad, they can give you 1 star. The difference between your case and the one in the thread is that Hopper publicly announced he is going to do it after reading a reply in a thread. Not after reading HuaiChi's story, plus his previous behavior is taken into consideration.

Also, WN has the worst system. It's not better. Letting authors delete reviews allows the unscrupulous ones to have the best rating. If you are serious about writing, unless you abandon your principles and do the same, you won't be able to beat them. Here you can beat any troll or shitty author if you are good enough and know what you are doing.

You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism. It is something that happens with upvoting reviews that has nothing but praise in them, shoving reviews with valid criticism down, where readers will have a higher chance to miss them.

Being able to reply is redundant. If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it. If it's not complete bullshit, what's the reason to reply to it? I can't see any. I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.

About your other suggestion. You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining. I wrote smut before I hiatused, and another dude wrote smut at the same time I started. His novel was more entertaining so he got more comments and hearts. My story was more divisive since it had lesser quality, and at the same time it had more clickbaity title, so I got more reviews(at the time). That's how it works.

Maybe it's because the one who gave you 1 star was not a troll? This will happen. Your story is not perfect, and rating system is prone to interpretation. Does it represents the quality, or how much you've enjoyed it? People can give you an answer, but can't force you to follow the same interpretation. If a person read a couple of chapters, and felt it was bad, they can give you 1 star. The difference between your case and the one in the thread is that Hopper publicly announced he is going to do it after reading a reply in a thread. Not after reading HuaiChi's story, plus his previous behavior is taken into consideration.

Also, WN has the worst system. It's not better. Letting authors delete reviews allows the unscrupulous ones to have the best rating. If you are serious about writing, unless you abandon your principles and do the same, you won't be able to beat them. Here you can beat any troll or shitty author if you are good enough and know what you are doing.

You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism. It is something that happens with upvoting reviews that has nothing but praise in them, shoving reviews with valid criticism down, where readers will have a higher chance to miss them.

Being able to reply is redundant. If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it. If it's not complete bullshit, what's the reason to reply to it? I can't see any. I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.

About your other suggestion. You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining. I wrote smut before I hiatused, and another dude wrote smut at the same time I started. His novel was more entertaining so he got more comments and hearts. My story was more divisive since it had lesser quality, and at the same time it had more clickbaity title, so I got more reviews(at the time). That's how it works.
Letting authors delete reviews isn't ok, but letting trolls troll your book with 1 star is ok. I don't see your logic. lol. Yeah, no book is perfect, but when you are getting a ratings bomb of 1 star, like 15 ratings of 1 star within 30 minutes, it's alright, yeah? I complained to the admin, but they did nothing. So, I removed that book and reposted it. Guess what? The same thing. 15, 1 star ratings within a day this time. There you have it. Write a review about what you didn't like about the book, is alright. I can take that. But some give 1 star because I keep my book on Patreon or because I tried to defend my work asking them to wait for the next chapter. ??? So, I wonder, which is the worst? So, don't throw your half baked logic lol.
Maybe it's because the one who gave you 1 star was not a troll? This will happen. Your story is not perfect, and rating system is prone to interpretation. Does it represents the quality, or how much you've enjoyed it? People can give you an answer, but can't force you to follow the same interpretation. If a person read a couple of chapters, and felt it was bad, they can give you 1 star. The difference between your case and the one in the thread is that Hopper publicly announced he is going to do it after reading a reply in a thread. Not after reading HuaiChi's story, plus his previous behavior is taken into consideration.

Also, WN has the worst system. It's not better. Letting authors delete reviews allows the unscrupulous ones to have the best rating. If you are serious about writing, unless you abandon your principles and do the same, you won't be able to beat them. Here you can beat any troll or shitty author if you are good enough and know what you are doing.

You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism. It is something that happens with upvoting reviews that has nothing but praise in them, shoving reviews with valid criticism down, where readers will have a higher chance to miss them.

Being able to reply is redundant. If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it. If it's not complete bullshit, what's the reason to reply to it? I can't see any. I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.

About your other suggestion. You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining. I wrote smut before I hiatused, and another dude wrote smut at the same time I started. His novel was more entertaining so he got more comments and hearts. My story was more divisive since it had lesser quality, and at the same time it had more clickbaity title, so I got more reviews(at the time). That's how it works.

Maybe it's because the one who gave you 1 star was not a troll? This will happen. Your story is not perfect, and rating system is prone to interpretation. Does it represents the quality, or how much you've enjoyed it? People can give you an answer, but can't force you to follow the same interpretation. If a person read a couple of chapters, and felt it was bad, they can give you 1 star. The difference between your case and the one in the thread is that Hopper publicly announced he is going to do it after reading a reply in a thread. Not after reading HuaiChi's story, plus his previous behavior is taken into consideration.

Also, WN has the worst system. It's not better. Letting authors delete reviews allows the unscrupulous ones to have the best rating. If you are serious about writing, unless you abandon your principles and do the same, you won't be able to beat them. Here you can beat any troll or shitty author if you are good enough and know what you are doing.

You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism. It is something that happens with upvoting reviews that has nothing but praise in them, shoving reviews with valid criticism down, where readers will have a higher chance to miss them.

Being able to reply is redundant. If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it. If it's not complete bullshit, what's the reason to reply to it? I can't see any. I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.

About your other suggestion. You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining. I wrote smut before I hiatused, and another dude wrote smut at the same time I started. His novel was more entertaining so he got more comments and hearts. My story was more divisive since it had lesser quality, and at the same time it had more clickbaity title, so I got more reviews(at the time). That's how it works.
Letting authors delete reviews isn't ok, but letting trolls troll your book with 1 star is ok. I don't see your logic. lol. Yeah, no book is perfect, but when you are getting a ratings bomb of 1 star, like 15 ratings of 1 star within 30 minutes, it's alright, yeah? I complained to the admin, but they did nothing. So, I removed that book and reposted it. Guess what? The same thing. 15, 1 star ratings within a day this time. There you have it. Write a review about what you didn't like about the book, is alright. I can take that. But some give 1 star because I keep my book on Patreon or because I tried to defend my work asking them to wait for the next chapter. ??? So, I wonder, which is the worst? So, don't throw your half baked logic lol.
 
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You can ask your readers to downvote valid criticism.
If the author wants to lose all the credit and respect of his readers by doing it, I have no problem with him trying. As I said, Reddit has had this system for almost two decades. It works just fine, giving you an idea of how valid someone's opinion is.

If the review is complete bullshit Tony will remove it.
We have come full circle. I've already explained why we can't depend on Tony to solve all our little problems. It's called micromanagement. I doubt he has the time to read a novel for each complaint to determine whether the review is valid. That's why it's so easy to exploit if you are smart and evil enough.

I can see how shitty authors will try to wiggle their way out of a "bad" review, and try to portray it as if the content of a review is wrong.
This is why I suggested letting everyone downvote the author's comments as well, so they can't wiggle out.

You can't force someone to rate, like, or whatever else. You can't force people to do it. It's not possible. The only way you can get more interactions is by writing something more entertaining.
No one is forcing anyone, only improving UI for everyone's good. When I ask for a review or rating at the end of a chapter, is that considered forcing? No, of course not. It's simply a call to action that does bring positive results. Why a website can't do it automatically is beyond my understanding.
I'm asking for a simple "Did you enjoy this novel? Consider leaving a rating: ☆☆☆☆☆". Pretty much every iOS and Android application does it because no one wants to waste their time opening the app store to do it manually. Only those who really, really dislike something would take the trouble to do so, and that's why there are so many complaints about 1-star ratings.
 

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It's all about facts. Does SH and RR have a way to stop theft or stop trolls? NONE. Maybe the admin can remove book thieves, but that's a long process. Can WN stop theft or trolls? Yes, almost instantly.

... It takes seconds to copy anything that’s on the internet. WebNovel cannot stop theft. It maybe can stop Trolls, but SH and RR have ways to stop trolls as well, such as limiting reviews and ratings to 1 per IP and not allowing VPNs to review or rate.

Let me prove it. Give me the link to a chapter of your novel on WN, and I’ll give you the chapter in plaintext within minutes, if not seconds.
 

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Jesus this spirals

Someone notify me when Hopper and or a mod appear.
I doubt @Hopper will appear after so much drama ?

Maybe a second scr***ler phenomenon will happen. (Old users will understand who I mean)

People should ping @Hopper more for public execution.
 
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