In a linear world where time flows linearly. Would a time controller be the most powerful ability?

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While reading the Harry Potter fanfic, I realized one thing: unlike the rest of the universe, in this universe time is represented as a leyline, like in Prisoner of Azkaban. This was clearly demonstrated. When the past changes, it affects the future (even though, in fact, everything has already happened in the future, and everything that happens leads to a confirmation of that future). This got me thinking.

It turns out that someone who controls time in a world where it's linear becomes the most powerful?

Simply put, if a character has the ability to influence time and travel back in time, does that make them invincible?

Let's say there is a time pendulum in the Harry Potter world (I don't know the exact limitations of its use, but it's not that important). Let's imagine that the hero takes this pendulum and convinces himself that he's traveling into the future to deliver something to himself, like a note.

Provided I haven't set an exact time for this event, would this count as direct foreshadowing? That is, I already have the intention of traveling to the past and handing myself a note. But I haven't specified when that will happen. If the note appears to me at the moment I think about it, then I will get the status of invulnerability. It will be in effect until my intention to go back in time and hand myself the note is fulfilled.

That's invulnerability?
 

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Well if he can change the way time flows then it would be powerful as he can make a endless small loop cut off from the original timeline. but every time it does a 360 another timeline will be made smashed making another world and time playing at the same time in the same existence together slowly destroying reality itself.
 

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Yes and no. You will be invulnerable for the time till the note turns up but that just means you didn't do anything that'd prevent you from doing so.

The bigger worry is if you plan to do it and the note doesn't turn up. You are about to have something horrible happen to you.
 

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Well if he can change the way time flows then it would be powerful as he can make a endless small loop cut off from the original timeline. but every time it does a 360 another timeline will be made smashed making another world and time playing at the same time in the same existence together slowly destroying reality itself.
What I am saying is for a linear universe. I mean the following.Imagine that we have a device that will allow us to go back in time. And so it necessarily works, and we set the conditions that the universe where the hero is located, the time there is linear (By linearity, it means that when you return back in time and change the past, affects the future from which the hero returned back.) and so if the hero has such an opportunity, imagine the following option.that is, the hero, Thinks AND PLANS. Be sure to GO BACK AND GIVE YOURSELF SOMETHING And since as soon as he thinks about it, and if he suddenly gets something at the same moment (meaning an object), in fact it becomes something like a rule. that is, he does not set a specific time when he will return back to give himself something, leaving behind it free. That is, he can return back both in a day and in a few years. And so, provided that time is linear, if he suddenly turns out to be an object at exactly the moment when he thinks about it, then it turns out that he can no longer die or cease to exist . until you complete the action, (that is, go back to give yourself something) If the time is linear it cannot create a separate timeline. Why can't this work?
Yes and no. You will be invulnerable for the time till the note turns up but that just means you didn't do anything that'd prevent you from doing so.

The bigger worry is if you plan to do it and the note doesn't turn up. You are about to have something horrible happen to you.
The main question is to leave the uncertainty of when I will send a note to myself, which means it can be at any time.
Yes and no. You will be invulnerable for the time till the note turns up but that just means you didn't do anything that'd prevent you from doing so.

The bigger worry is if you plan to do it and the note doesn't turn up. You are about to have something horrible happen to you.
Also, what if you "conceive" to write in a note the reason for sending at that particular time, but the main thing is not to mention the exact date.
 
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It's freaking powerful, depends on what you define as powerful in first place.

I would recommend to Watch/Read Re:Zero if you want the full potential of constant use of time travel, complete with the risk and consequences.
 

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It's freaking powerful, depends on what you define as powerful in first place.

I would recommend to Watch/Read Re:Zero if you want the full potential of constant use of time travel, complete with the risk and consequences.
In the zero universe, time is not linear, as it can change freely. In linear time, everything is already happening, all the changes have already happened, and the action will lead to the fact that the changes themselves worked on their own, as I already gave an example of this, a moment from the prisoner of Azkaban, from the Harry Potter universe. Everything has already happened there, and actions lead to the fact that this future Confirmed
 

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So you want a set and stone timeline, the only thing i can think of for a story for what you described is a sci fi/indiana jones type of thing

edit: like discovering long lost secrets in the past
 

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Итак, вам нужен набор и каменная временная шкала, единственное, что я могу придумать для истории для того, что вы описали, - это научная фантастика / Индиана Джонс.

редактировать: как открытие давно потерянных секретов в прошлом
No, it's not for stories but rather reflections that prompted me when I was reading. I want to think of a login way when the main character becomes powerful, the main word is logical.
 

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No.

Because it already happened. You already did it so you can't change it. In the HP universe, there is no free will. Everything has already happened and all you are doing is going through the motions.

And its a time turner, not a time pendulum.

Harry potters universe is a bleak and hopeless world. Voldemort had no choice but to be what he was. He was always going to die. He was always going to fail. Nothing he did mattered. Nothing Harry did mattered. He was always going to win.
 

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this sounds like dr. who
Doctor Who operates on a Series of time beads, not time threads. Imagine a sphere. At the top is a fixed point in time. At the bottom, is a fixed point in time. How you get from the top to the bottom, you can take any path you want through the sphere. The sphere represents all possible paths from Fixed point to Fixed Point. You will arrive at the bottom fixed point, but how you get there is up to you.

Then there is another Sphere. Then another, Then Another.

It is a series of beads. Every life is a chain of beads with the more beads meeting up at a fixed point in time, the harder it is to break that fixed point. It is possible, but not advisable. Time gets absolutely BORKED if you mess with the wrong fixed point. Because those chains of beads are inside a bigger bead. Which is a chain of beads inside a bigger bead. Until you get one big, giant...

 

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Time-Travel in a world where time is Linear means you can't change the events that already happened.

It would means that butterfly effect won't be happening at all.

You got more freedom to Act as you wish, but at the cost of you won't be able to prevent someone's death if they're already dead in the future. The best you can do is faking their death if you had disposable dead body in-hand that were ready-to-use.

You can go to the past and said thing that could change the flow of war, and make technologies that shouldn't exist in time period, but the flow of war didn't change at all, and the technology simply stayed there without much change as nobody announced it or something.
 
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