AI, what is it good for?

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It's clear that a lot of people have a contentious view of AI. Various ethical concerns, and what not. But even outside of all that and just looking at AI language models as an available tool, has anyone actually had a good experience with one? I've been playing around a little with ChatGPT and Bard, really just to see what all the fuss is about. They use creative writing specifically as an example of something they can help with, offering suggestions or ideas, but I haven't been impressed so far. Ask it to generate a list of ideas or a better way to word something and it spits out garbage for the most part.

Another thing I tried doing was putting the entire text of my novel into a Google Doc, then ask Bard to read it and tell me what it thought. It took half a day to ingest it. Overall, its review was that my novel was perfect, the greatest thing ever written, but a few of my sentences were a bit awkward. The examples it gave were not from my book though, so another dud there I think.

So has anyone had an actual positive experience? Found any AI suggestion to be of actual use?
 

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Hmm. I guess the AI doesn't do text very well.

So I guess not?
 
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It's clear that a lot of people have a contentious view of AI. Various ethical concerns, and what not. But even outside of all that and just looking at AI language models as an available tool, has anyone actually had a good experience with one? I've been playing around a little with ChatGPT and Bard, really just to see what all the fuss is about. They use creative writing specifically as an example of something they can help with, offering suggestions or ideas, but I haven't been impressed so far. Ask it to generate a list of ideas or a better way to word something and it spits out garbage for the most part.

Another thing I tried doing was putting the entire text of my novel into a Google Doc, then ask Bard to read it and tell me what it thought. It took half a day to ingest it. Overall, its review was that my novel was perfect, the greatest thing ever written, but a few of my sentences were a bit awkward. The examples it gave were not from my book though, so another dud there I think.

So has anyone had an actual positive experience? Found any AI suggestion to be of actual use?
One actual use of AI imo is that it grounded some 'high-flying snobs' of twitter artists back into reality that their 'jobs' can be taken over if they continue pissing off their clients.
 

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I think there great probably what will boost humanity to space exploration. For know thought they are focused on creativity productivity seems hard.
 
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Eh, you guys know I'm an artist myself, and I'm well-aware of the struggles and difficulties in producing artwork.

Also, I'm well-aware of how hard it is for new illustrators to gain traction and following, since everyone's on-guard with their hard-earned money.

And for those twitter artists to take their clients for granted is something stupid.
 

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ai can be good at almost anything.

bard is horseshit. copy your paragraphs into chatgpt and 100% it'll give you a useful response.
 

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Yeah, if I did art professionally I would be worried about Midjorney and technologies like it. They can crank out passably good art with little to no effort. Even if something is a bit wrong, there's always photoshop to clean it up. The cover I'm using for my book was AI generated. I wouldn't consider that a lost sale though. I would never have commissioned anyone to make art for a free web novel.

When it comes to language AIs though, they're just not even close. At least not yet. So for right now I can't see any losing their job to ChatGPT.
 

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also, one of the best use cases for llms like chatgbt and bard is researching. you can ask obscure and odd questions and receive an answer in seconds instead of scouring random sites and quora.
 

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It's clear that a lot of people have a contentious view of AI. Various ethical concerns, and what not. But even outside of all that and just looking at AI language models as an available tool, has anyone actually had a good experience with one? I've been playing around a little with ChatGPT and Bard, really just to see what all the fuss is about. They use creative writing specifically as an example of something they can help with, offering suggestions or ideas, but I haven't been impressed so far. Ask it to generate a list of ideas or a better way to word something and it spits out garbage for the most part.

Another thing I tried doing was putting the entire text of my novel into a Google Doc, then ask Bard to read it and tell me what it thought. It took half a day to ingest it. Overall, its review was that my novel was perfect, the greatest thing ever written, but a few of my sentences were a bit awkward. The examples it gave were not from my book though, so another dud there I think.

So has anyone had an actual positive experience? Found any AI suggestion to be of actual use?
I had a great experience with AI. One of my friends, a resident of the SH forums, @RepresentingEnvy , made this profile pic for me. It fits wonderfully and looks absolutely smashing! One of my favorite pieces of art. Provides quite a bit of writing inspiration just looking at it too. And then I can't forget the amazing AI pictures that she and @Kureous posted for my SH thread "Puppets for the Puppet."
 

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also, one of the best use cases for llms like chatgbt and bard is researching. you can ask obscure and odd questions and receive an answer in seconds instead of scouring random sites and quora.
That's one I'd be careful with. The AI can find accurate information, but sometimes it chooses to make up random stuff that just sounds accurate. It can even cite real sources for things it made up. :sweating_profusely:
 

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also, one of the best use cases for llms like chatgbt and bard is researching. you can ask obscure and odd questions and receive an answer in seconds instead of scouring random sites and quora.

Yep, yep, I was just about to say that.

I've had mixed results there as well. Part of the problem is that the answers that ChatGPT generates are very authoritative sounding. It sounds like it actually knows what it's talking about. The chapter I'm writing now has the MC firing a crossbow, so I wanted to know what kind of penetration a 400-pound draw crossbow would have when shot into a pine tree. It said a few inches. Is that correct? I have no idea. It seemed to think so.

However, if there's a field you know quite a bit about, you can ask it about some obscure knowledge that you might have, and see how it's usually pretty far off. For instance, I asked it to generate a regular expression that would match the days of the week. It gave me:

^(Monday|Tuesday|Wednesday|Thursday|Friday|Saturday|Sunday)$

Ok, sure. That's technically correct. But it's bad way to do that. It assumes that the day is the only word on that particular line, that it won't be abbreviated, and will be capitalized. D+ for effort.
 

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Yep, yep, I was just about to say that.

I've had mixed results there as well. Part of the problem is that the answers that ChatGPT generates are very authoritative sounding. It sounds like it actually knows what it's talking about. The chapter I'm writing now has the MC firing a crossbow, so I wanted to know what kind of penetration a 400-pound draw crossbow would have when shot into a pine tree. It said a few inches. Is that correct? I have no idea. It seemed to think so.

However, if there's a field you know quite a bit about, you can ask it about some obscure knowledge that you might have, and see how it's usually pretty far off. For instance, I asked it to generate a regular expression that would match the days of the week. It gave me:



Ok, sure. That's technically correct. But it's bad way to do that. It assumes that the day is the only word on that particular line, that it won't be abbreviated, and will be capitalized. D+ for effort.
oh no no no... bad idea. stay far away from math. most of the problems right now will be fixed in the future. gpt4 got a code interpreter. it can keep testing the regular expression it produces till it gets it right. if you really want to see how good llms are right now, buy a gpt4 subscription. gpt3 is the dumb cousin

That's one I'd be careful with. The AI can find accurate information, but sometimes it chooses to make up random stuff that just sounds accurate. It can even cite real sources for things it made up. :sweating_profusely:
that's true. numbers (dates, values, etc) are usually bad. it alsso shits the bed at very specific obscure stuff.
 
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Yeah, if I did art professionally I would be worried about Midjorney and technologies like it. They can crank out passably good art with little to no effort. Even if something is a bit wrong, there's always photoshop to clean it up. The cover I'm using for my book was AI generated. I wouldn't consider that a lost sale though. I would never have commissioned anyone to make art for a free web novel.

When it comes to language AIs though, they're just not even close. At least not yet. So for right now I can't see any losing their job to ChatGPT.
Nah, I'm not worried with AI proliferation at all. If anything, some of those AI-produced works have been a source of idea for me.

I see AI as a 'Great Equalizer', just like the 'Black Death' of 1300s Europe. Artists who thought of themselves as 'irreplaceable', and would do their best to make them feel they are too important than they actually are, now think twice about their position and is mad about AI use in art.

Well, if ever these fools got replaced by AI, history and experience have proved to me that commissioning artists won't totally disappear. Call it 'pruning', and those who'd remain will be 'luxury'.
 
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