Why the *beep* does the female protag keep returning to her abuser?

CheertheSecond

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I read a fair share of abuse romance isekai/time reverse/reincarnate novels recently. Since there is no where to vent my frustration, I will make a piss right here.

Why the f does the female protag keep returning to her abusive male lead?

Don’t get me wrong if there is a genuine reason for her to forgive her man, I wouldn’t feel this frustrated. There is literally no good reason.

Female lead is young (child-like young since I don’t remember her age but she looks like a child). The one she loved said he felt annoyed with her affectionate behaviours. He told her straight that he decided to sold her (a child at that time) to a noble for a castle which he commented to her face is a good price and that he should have sold her sooner. The female protag got sold to the abusive noble who physically abused her. She partially lost her ability to speak properly because the noble cut off a portion of her tongue. The female protag still believed the male lead will come back to her. Circumstances change and she became a vagabond then captured gladiator then slave. Her new owner sent her to the male lead (a to-be-king now). He didn’t recognise her. He had his way with her (while she doesn’t want to). Female protag later found out that the male lead regretted selling her so he tracked her down. In his quest, he found the noble’s servant (the only person who cared for her while she was first sold). He tortured the girl to get the info about the female protag. When the girl refused stating that she rather die than letting the male lead find the protag because he is a fucker that doesn’t deserve her. The servant was killed after that. The identity of the protag is later revealed and while she is adamant about not forgiving the male lead. She allowed the male lead a second chance (?!?) What the actual f? The damn male lead’s servant the one who hold prejudice against her insulting her that she played hard to get to attract the male lead’s attention. She kept saying she wants to live her life her way but letting herself used for the sake of the male leads and his kingdom because why? Because the damn mentioned servant said one line of apology and preached about the greater good of the kingdom and that the male lead needs to be mentally healthy to keep the kingdom safe. By the horn of Satan, what the heck? And the female protag agreed with that bullock?

Then there is this female protag who was forced into a Royal engagement since childhood. She was forced to study to be a suitable princess, and she hated studying that much. She literally had no chance of going out to relax and if she showed sign of fatigue her instructors and those around reprimanded her about her responsibilities in the future which she wanted none of it. It was bad enough that she completely lost her child-like innocent smile just after a few months. She managed to survive ten years because she had a sliver of hope. She tried to make the male lead charmed with another girl to annul the engagement. The fucked up thing is her brother is the one who forced her in the marriage in the first place. He did that for what? It was for his family, the kingdom, and the prince. He did none for her and the entire time he acted like he had to make a difficult decision when he was the one that forced her into the corner. When the sibling confronted each other, he didn’t even apologise for forcing the engagement, he is just trying to justify himself. The damn prince knew about her situation but he ignored her suffering because he liked her and wanted her and couldn’t let her go. Is this morally alright? He also knew about her plan to break off the engagement so he tricked her to catch her when she escaped and now she couldn’t go outside without escort. One time she managed to go further, he imprisoned her in a basement room. The fuck is this sh*t? He literally tricked her for 10 years to get her properly studied and became his princess by giving her failed hope, then he had the audacity to play victim and blamed it on love? What more damnable is the entire universe tried to set her up with the prince, not a single person understands her suffering. Every word of sympathy those side characters spouting is nothing more than words through the mouth. What is her response to all of that? She gradually opened up to the prince? This is not a person accepting her fate. It’s the girl being brainwashed into loving her destiny. Those two previous sentences are not my interpretation, it’s literally how she was shown to be in the facking manga. She literally enjoyed her new imprisonment and the love that was shoved into her by the prince. How is that a logical or satisfying development?

Then there are countless other protag that were abused but forgave like those above so the plot can go on.

The fuck is this?

Now you will ask why I am saying all of these. I will tell ya. The reviews below those manga/manhwa/novel are similar to mine that the character development is more crabs than a browny diaper. This means a lot of people understand this. Then why the heck can’t I find a novel that isn’t doing any of those arbitrary development? I am not the only one who realised, so shouldn’t there be at least an author who realised it and wrote a different kind of development? The fuck?

Why can’t there be a novel about a protag who successfully detangled herself from her abusers and escaped. I don’t care if you show us how the abusers regret and sh**. I just want an abused protag to fight/reject/react fiercely against the forking-late reconciliation attempt of her abusers. They turned her life into hell and now when they wanted her back just weakly refused with some words? The fuck? You suffered so long under them. You know them far better. You think they will leave you alone with some harsh words? Why can’t she grab a chair or anything to defend her new found freedom and happiness. Why did she react so tamed in front of her now-regretted abusers? It makes bullshit of senses that she just yells at them. Hell, I will grab a knife and threaten them with death if they don’t back the fuck out of my life. Hell, I will even gut myself if I couldn’t win. The protag reaction is so pitifully normal that it made no sense after the hell she has gone through.

I want some more realistic reaction not some E-rating shit the incompetent authors made. When those authors described her abuse, it was far worse than the E-rating allows but when it comes to her reacting about the abusers returning to her life she had to act sensible? The fuck? Those are the dumbest shit I can have the misfortune of reading. Fucking donkeys!
 
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I'm not sure which manhwa/manga you've been reading, but the ones I've been reading usually have the asshole ML snagged away from the MC by the two-faced designated 'heroine' of these storylines, but yeah, I agree with a lot of what you said. Fucking *boink* them mo-fos!
 

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I'm not sure which manhwa/manga you've been reading, but the ones I've been reading usually have the asshole ML snagged away from the MC by the two-faced designated 'heroine' of these storylines, but yeah, I agree with a lot of what you said. Fucking *boink* them mo-fos!

The first example is from
I want to escape from Princess education

The second is from
On the Emperor's Lap
Who hurt you?

The World!!!

I mean that majority of women like this. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so popular. And I don't understand what else you expect from a shoujo\josei.

Yeah, but I refuse to believe that the novel that can satisfy my liking doesn't exist. The world is big, you know.
 

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The first example is from
I want to escape from Princess education

The second is from
On the Emperor's Lap


The World!!!



Yeah, but I refuse to believe that the novel that can satisfy my liking doesn't exist. The world is big, you know.
Ah, thanks!
 

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Okay. Is this serious, or rhetorical?

If you want a more in depth answer I can give it, but I'm assuming at the heart of this, you are just venting and don't want to know the answer.

From a narrative perspective, you have this thing at the end called a CLIMAX. No, not that kind. It's the point in the book where you reach the apex of the story. It all comes together at once. A trick most Writers use is to add "The Nadir" or, the low point, also known as the Third Act Bottom out. It's called a bunch of names. You basically and drop them to the lowest point in their lives IN THE STORY. You do this, so the climb out of the hole to the Apex is all the more satisfying for the reader.

YOU ARE READING BOOKS WRITTEN IN A DIFFERENT CULTURE.

There is the concept of the "Moral Event Horizon". This is the point where a character does something SO HORRIBLE, there is no coming back. WHAT IS THIS POINT? Well... depends. On YOUR CULTURE.

The point where I go, "Nope. Irredeemable Piece of SHIT. I pray they ALL DIE. I HATE EVERYONE IN THIS MANGA." is not the same as a Korean, or ... heaven forbid, it's written by someone from CHINA. Japan and America KINDA have a similar point, but well... only in general. Trust me, read any horror comic from Japan and well... you know what I mean.

However, when it comes to romance, well... in China, where you have companies basically run like ORGANIZED CRIME FAMILIES, they have a much different moral event horizon. Now add to that a Chinese impression of European Ambient nobility or any other version of western culture, and you get a point where, yeah, a woman accepting 10 years of shit and then going back to the man because, he realizes he should have taken off his rings before backhanding her, yeah, that's FINE.

Because, you know, when your family can't EAT, you totally understand why this woman who has done nothing but cry tears for the past 200 pages is going back to the rich guy who merely decided he is only going to treat her like a baby incubator, then like a cock sleeve. A real step up.

For you, who have... you know... STANDARDS. Well, it seems like this makes NO FUCKIN' SENSE. But to the writer, he's only writing her to a really low point, so they can forgive each other, make up, and she can get properly wifed up by a rich guy who will pay for the many babies.

Ya get it now?
 

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Corty said:
Who hurt you?

The World!!!

The World.JPG
 

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Okay. Is this serious, or rhetorical?

If you want a more in depth answer I can give it, but I'm assuming at the heart of this, you are just venting and don't want to know the answer.

From a narrative perspective, you have this thing at the end called a CLIMAX. No, not that kind. It's the point in the book where you reach the apex of the story. It all comes together at once. A trick most Writers use is to add "The Nadir" or, the low point, also known as the Third Act Bottom out. It's called a bunch of names. You basically and drop them to the lowest point in their lives IN THE STORY. You do this, so the climb out of the hole to the Apex is all the more satisfying for the reader.

YOU ARE READING BOOKS WRITTEN IN A DIFFERENT CULTURE.

There is the concept of the "Moral Event Horizon". This is the point where a character does something SO HORRIBLE, there is no coming back. WHAT IS THIS POINT? Well... depends. On YOUR CULTURE.

The point where I go, "Nope. Irredeemable Piece of SHIT. I pray they ALL DIE. I HATE EVERYONE IN THIS MANGA." is not the same as a Korean, or ... heaven forbid, it's written by someone from CHINA. Japan and America KINDA have a similar point, but well... only in general. Trust me, read any horror comic from Japan and well... you know what I mean.

However, when it comes to romance, well... in China, where you have companies basically run like ORGANIZED CRIME FAMILIES, they have a much different moral event horizon. Now add to that a Chinese impression of European Ambient nobility or any other version of western culture, and you get a point where, yeah, a woman accepting 10 years of shit and then going back to the man because, he realizes he should have taken off his rings before backhanding her, yeah, that's FINE.

Because, you know, when your family can't EAT, you totally understand why this woman who has done nothing but cry tears for the past 200 pages is going back to the rich guy who merely decided he is only going to treat her like a baby incubator, then like a cock sleeve. A real step up.

For you, who have... you know... STANDARDS. Well, it seems like this makes NO FUCKIN' SENSE. But to the writer, he's only writing her to a really low point, so they can forgive each other, make up, and she can get properly wifed up by a rich guy who will pay for the many babies.

Ya get it now?

Sure, I agree with it.
 
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I read a fair share of abuse romance isekai/time reverse/reincarnate novels recently. Since there is no where to vent my frustration, I will make a piss right here.

Why the f does the female protag keep returning to her abusive male lead?

Don’t get me wrong if there is a genuine reason for her to forgive her man, I wouldn’t feel this frustrated. There is literally no good reason.

Female lead is young (child-like young since I don’t remember her age but she looks like a child). The one she loved said he felt annoyed with her affectionate behaviours. He told her straight to her face that he decided to sold her (a child at that time) to a noble for a castle which he commented to her face is a good price and that he should have sold her sooner. The female protag got sold to the abusive noble who physically abused her. She partially lost her ability to speak properly because the noble cut off a portion of her tongue. The female protag still believed the male lead will come back to her. Circumstances change and she became a vagabond then captured gladiator then slave. Her new owner sent her to the male lead (a to-be-king now). He didn’t recognise her. He had his way with her (while she doesn’t want to). Female protag later found out that the male lead regretted selling her so he tracked her down. In his quest, he found the noble’s servant (the only person who cared for her while she was first sold). He tortured the girl to get the info about the female protag. Wheb the girl refused stating that she rather die than letting the male lead find the protag because he is a fucker that doesn’t deserve her. The servant was killed after that. The identity of the protag is later revealed and while she is adamant about not forgiving the male lead. She allowed the male lead a second chance (?!?) What the actual f? The damn male mead’s servant the one who hold prejudice against her insulting her that she played hard to get to attract the male lead’s attention. She kept saying she wants to live her life her way but letting herself used for the sake of the male leads and his kingdom because why? Because the damn mentioned servant said one line of apology and preached about the greater good of the kingdom and that the male lead needs to be mentally healthy to keep the kingdom safe. By the horn of Satan, what the heck? And the female protag agreed with that bullock?

Then there is this female protag who was forced into a Royal engagement since childhood. She was forced to study to be a suitable princess, and she hated studying that much. She literally had no chance of going out to relax and if she showed sign of fatigue her instructors and those around reprimanded her about her responsibilities in the future which she wanted none of it. It was bad enough that she completely lost her child-like innocent smile just after a few months. She managed to survive ten years because she had a sliver of hope. She tried to make the male lead charmed with another girl to annul the engagement. The fucked up thing is her brother is the one who forced her in the marriage in the furst place. He did that for what? It was for his family, the kingdom, and the prince. He did none for her and the entire time he acted like he had to make a difficult decision when he was the one that forced her into the corner. When the sibling confronted each other, he didn’t even apologise for forcing the engagement, he is just trying to justify himself. The damn prince knew about her situation but he ignored her suffering because he liked her and wanted her and couldn’t let her go. Is this morally alright? He also knew about her plan to break off the engagement so he tricked her to catch her when she escaped and now she couldn’t go outside without escort. One time she managed to go further he imprisoned her in a basement room. The fuck is this sh*t? He literally tricked her in 10 years to get her properly studied and became his princess by giving her failed hope, then he had the audacity to play victim and blamed it on love? What more damnable is the entire universe tried to set her up with the prince not a single person is understanding of her suffering. Everything is nothing more than words through the mouth. What is her response to all of that? She gradually opened up to the prince? This is not a person accepting her fate. It’s the girl being brainwashed into loving her destiny. Those two previous sentences are not my interpretation, it’s literally how she was shown to be in the facking manga. She literally enjoyed her new imprisonment and the love that was shoved into her by the prince. How is that a logical or satisfying development?

Then there are countless other protag that were abused but forgave like those above so the plot can go on.

The fuck is this?

Now you will ask why I am saying all of these. I will tell ya. The reviews below those manga/manhwa/novel are similar to mine that the character development is more crabs than a browny diaper. This means a lot of people understand this. Then why the heck can’t I find a novel that isn’t doing any of those arbitrary development? I am not the only one who realised, so shouldn’t there be at least an author who realised it and wrote a different kind of development? The fuck?

Why can’t there be a novel about a protag who successfully detangled herself from her abusers and escaped. I don’t care if you show us how the abusers regret and sh**. I just want an abused protag to fight/reject/react fiercely against the forking-late reconciliation attempt of her abusers. They turned her life into hell and now when they wanted her back just weakly refused with some words? The fuck? You suffered so long under them. You know them far better. You think they will leave you alone with some harsh words? Why can’t she grab a chair or anything to defend her new found freedom and happiness. Why did she react so tamed in front of her now-regretted abusers? It makes bullshit of senses that she just yells at them. Hell, I will grab a knife and threaten them with death if they don’t back the fuck out of my life. Hell, I will even gut myself if I couldn’t win. The protag reaction is so pitifully normal that it made no sense after the hell she has gone through.

I want some more realistic reaction not some E-rating shit the incompetent authors made. When those authors described her abuse, it was far worse than the E-rating allows but when it comes to her reacting about the abusers returning to her life she had to act sensible? The fuck? Those are the dumbest shit I can have the misfortune of reading. Fucking donkeys!
In reality, once someone escapes the abusive conditions he/she was raised in, and is made aware of, that person would do whatever it takes not to go back to those people who abused him/her. However, if that someone grew up in an abusive environment, and no one was there to tell him/her that it shouldn't be that way, then he/she will view his/her treatment as normal. Hence, he/she will return to his/her abusers.

It's what I observed in the children (now young adults and teenagers) I worked with. Some of them keep on returning to the abusive relationship simply because it's what they believe is normal. And fucking hell, getting them to change their beliefs sure takes a lot of patience because they'd defend their twisted views with their own 'stupid' reasons.

A good example of this is one of my students who keeps on running after the guy who told her straight, "I don't love you. And don't you fucking ever show your face in front of my house again." Every time she lets out her story on me, I'd advise her on what to do, and that person doesn't love her.

Yet, she comes back. And when she gets hurt, it's me--her teacher--who's going to be disturbed in the middle of the night because she needs someone to talk to.

(One might wonder, "Isn't it that I've been abused myself by my students?" The answer is, yes. But back then, I'm too traumatized by the suicide of one of my students, so I tried to be a 'friend who listens' to them. However, I stopped doing it once I realized I can't save everyone.)

So yeah, though it may be stupid--and straight from an incel author's brain, those novels had some sliver of reality.
 
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Easy. It's for "padding" x "drama".
It also apply for male MCs isekais and for heartwarming rebirth-in-time romcom novels with a chinese MC, or worse example of all "love triangle harem dense beta MC jp old animes".

Look at what looks like a series with a smart/decisive/strong MC :
original drawn by bb_(baalbuddy)
original drawn by bb_(baalbuddy)
original drawn by bb_(baalbuddy)
 

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Women are retarded. That's why I don't write female protagonists or read any novel with a female protagonist. I won't even read books written by a woman.
 

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There's a good chunk of people who fetishize abuse. What you're reading is just it having been put to ink. Try not to let it get to you. It's just a fetish that you would appear to not enjoy .
The point of the story isn't her getting back at her abuser. It's her reuniting with him
 
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