Writing Modern Poetry; A Guide

Jocelyn_Uasal

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Hiya! I've posted this elsewhere before but I think it's important for authors to learn more about the economy of words. I'm a poet before anything else, and I really think that learning to write modern poetry will improve anyone's writing. So yeah, here's the basics of what I learned in college, and the tips that have gotten me published across multiple literary journals.



Step by step we’ll go through everything amateur poets do wrong, and I will try to show just what is needed instead. Of course, poetry is a huge topic to handle, but in examining contemporary works there are but a few techniques you can use to bring your poem to the next level.

1. Do not center your poems:

To many, this should seem like an obvious, but to a less informed group maybe not so much. To center a poem is to age it nearly a hundred years and to try to make it look more poetic. When looking at poetry, you can almost feel a sense of professionalism in a left justified piece, and to prove my point, pick up any serious poetry book and find me one good centered poem. Most importantly, a left-justified piece also dramatically ends your lines, a technique we will further discuss as it can drastically alter the meaning of your poem. If you have a real reason, then I suppose I shall let it slide, but to have a purpose is to understand the body and rhythm of a poem otherwise, you risk looking like nothing but an amateur.

2. Do not rhyme:

If you’re coming out to high school or just starting to get into the craft, I understand that this sounds insane. Poetry has been nothing but rhyming for so long? Thousands of years even? But that’s just it, that is precisely why, as contemporary poets, we absolutely cannot rhyme. To put it simply, rhyme is dead. When was these last time you even saw something that rhymed? I can guarantee that it wasn’t poetry, but more likely than not it was some sort of advertising, and once the jaws of capitalism swallow any technique I can guarantee you that it’s not worth getting back. Additionally, why might we want to have rhyme back anyways? When crafting a poem, restricting ourselves to such a small selection of words shall only do us harm. I already have trouble finding the right words, so to disqualify 98% of the English language would be a death sentence.

3. Remember that the title is part of your poem:

This is simple, yet often forgotten. If your poem is about pollution and the title is The Turtles Are Dying, then ABSOLUTELY do not repeat yourself. If you are going to put a line in your title then to put that same line in the poem, or vice versa is to assume your audience dull. We see this too often in poets that enjoy repeating themselves, continually playing on the same phrase over and over again, apparently to make a point yet all it does is bore me. Instead, rather than taking a line from the text and making it your title, you should pick a title that encapsulates the entire feeling. One of my own poems about hating birds is named “Blue Jays,” though I never specifically named any specific species in the piece.

4. End each line with words that matter:

This also goes along with the first bit of advice, but one of the main draws to the left-aligned piece is that it gives you the ability to end each of your lines with a striking word that fits your tone. You never want to end a line with throw-away words such as “and” “it” “me” etc. You can see below in the snippet of Claude McKay’s nature poem “To One Coming North” that each ending word helps to define the tone. (Note: While rhymes are present in this piece, and I said not to do that, this piece was written in the early 20th century, so it isn’t the contemporary poetry we write today.)

“And when the fields and streets are covered white
And the wind-worried void is chilly, raw,
Or underneath a spell of heat and light
The cheerless frozen spots begin to thaw,”


5. Understand your use of enjambment, or end-stopped lines:

Compared to all of the other pieces of advice here this one is a bit more advanced, yet this small change can completely transform how your poem sounds. In short, enjambment is to end your line without any punctuation and to move onto the next line; this creates a fast-paced poem in which each line flows into the next. End-stopped lines, however, are when an author ends her lines with punctuation, whether it be a period, semicolon, comma, what have you. End-stopped lines should be in use whenever each individual line must be stressed, such as the language in poems on grief. These techniques should not be sporadic throughout a single poem, but instead should be used in a majority of lines for whichever method you decide to use.

6. Create a scene:

This should be self-evident in any writing, but you must understand the difference between concrete language and abstract. A reader must be able to understand what is happening in your poem, not just what you are feeling because feelings are subjective and non-descriptive. Concrete language is used to create a visual scene, words like “table,” “desk,” “oak.” Abstract words are words that are most often associated with poetry, yet do nothing to paint any picture, such as “angry,” “depressed,” “excited.” A reader will not care about your work if they can’t tell what it’s about, rather than writing about being sad write about a moment when you were sad. Write the why.

7. Do not hide things from your audience:

What do you gain from putting your meaning behind walls? In the many workshops I have done, there is always too much “Well, you see, the flower is actually my mother, and you would have known that if you knew that in ancient Greek the word ‘mom’ is ‘μήτηρ.’” This does nothing but, and I can promise you this, annoy your audience beyond belief. Your poem should speak for both itself and you, not the other way around. Don’t be afraid to be brute and say what you mean; we’re writing poetry not riddles.

I'd love to see any poetry you create using these methods!!
 

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We wrote this poem back in 2003, and it very nearly won us a poetry slam (off by 0.3 points). We think it follows a lot of your advice here, except maybe number 7. Though, we aren't really hiding the meaning, either. It's just pure suggestiveness for the sake of being evocative of whatever conclusion your mind jumps to. And there's a little rhyming, but no particular scheme for it. We offer it as an early sample of our best work while we work on something new following your guide:

"You can be my Venkman"

Cigarette dangling, I cry your name

Something dripping
Clear and sticky
Looming messy draws me near
Clouds collecting
A thunderous ending
To the top of my genius tower
The twenty fourth floor offers me more
But untested I'm not certain I deserve that power
But if you go to the core
Where the streams are bending
Tracing a pattern of laughter and fear
You'll find in the depths of my containment mind
The source of my apocalypse hour

And if I'm right
My friend
You could save the lives of millions

Because, the sponges are migrating
And I can't hold them much longer
Because it has arms
And it is reaching out for me
And the coffee is willing
A cup that's refilling, with dreams around a campfire
I believe it's magic
And I'm getting a little tired of this

But maybe I'm on to something
Something big
Like a Twinkie
Something
Barking
And drooling
Like a cat or a dog
And from four feet above

I can see it whisper,

"Yes, have some."

And here you are
You've let the EPA in
To let them sift through my spores, molds and fungus
And this time they're picking up...
Not that they'll find much
Because, before I left off
You came

Particles accelerated
Cerebellum illuminated
And in your talkshow host voice
You saw

They hate it when you do that
And you are going to miss them!
And even though you're nothing but a sham, a dodge
With your beams crossed
Not even half the exterminator that I am
You twiddled my piano
You turned up the voltage
You cleared your mind
And summoned a god
You ate all my prophets
Stepped on my church
Blew up my building
And said, "you're so odd"
And then
In the middle of your media storm
You discharged my protons
And
Kicked
My
Ass

And all I'm asking is,

"No kiss?"
 

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2. Do not rhyme:

If you’re coming out to high school or just starting to get into the craft, I understand that this sounds insane. Poetry has been nothing but rhyming for so long? Thousands of years even? But that’s just it, that is precisely why, as contemporary poets, we absolutely cannot rhyme. To put it simply, rhyme is dead. When was these last time you even saw something that rhymed? I can guarantee that it wasn’t poetry, but more likely than not it was some sort of advertising, and once the jaws of capitalism swallow any technique I can guarantee you that it’s not worth getting back. Additionally, why might we want to have rhyme back anyways? When crafting a poem, restricting ourselves to such a small selection of words shall only do us harm. I already have trouble finding the right words, so to disqualify 98% of the English language would be a death sentence.
Nope. I’m sorry, but you lost me here.
 

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Nope. I’m sorry, but you lost me here.
Understandable! This one really got me at first, and I struggled a lot with it.

Since then though, I've also bought lots of poetry collections and I don't think I've seen any english rhyming poetry that's gotten published within the past 50-100 years or so. It has really fallen out of fashion, maybe because rap is just so good at it.
We offer it as an early sample of our best work while we work on something new following your guide
It is so refreshing to see poetry that tells a story! I call poetry without a narrative "whining poetry" because all they do is complain ?
 

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Hiya! I've posted this elsewhere before but I think it's important for authors to learn more about the economy of words. I'm a poet before anything else, and I really think that learning to write modern poetry will improve anyone's writing. So yeah, here's the basics of what I learned in college, and the tips that have gotten me published across multiple literary journals.



Step by step we’ll go through everything amateur poets do wrong, and I will try to show just what is needed instead. Of course, poetry is a huge topic to handle, but in examining contemporary works there are but a few techniques you can use to bring your poem to the next level.

1. Do not center your poems:

To many, this should seem like an obvious, but to a less informed group maybe not so much. To center a poem is to age it nearly a hundred years and to try to make it look more poetic. When looking at poetry, you can almost feel a sense of professionalism in a left justified piece, and to prove my point, pick up any serious poetry book and find me one good centered poem. Most importantly, a left-justified piece also dramatically ends your lines, a technique we will further discuss as it can drastically alter the meaning of your poem. If you have a real reason, then I suppose I shall let it slide, but to have a purpose is to understand the body and rhythm of a poem otherwise, you risk looking like nothing but an amateur.

2. Do not rhyme:

If you’re coming out to high school or just starting to get into the craft, I understand that this sounds insane. Poetry has been nothing but rhyming for so long? Thousands of years even? But that’s just it, that is precisely why, as contemporary poets, we absolutely cannot rhyme. To put it simply, rhyme is dead. When was these last time you even saw something that rhymed? I can guarantee that it wasn’t poetry, but more likely than not it was some sort of advertising, and once the jaws of capitalism swallow any technique I can guarantee you that it’s not worth getting back. Additionally, why might we want to have rhyme back anyways? When crafting a poem, restricting ourselves to such a small selection of words shall only do us harm. I already have trouble finding the right words, so to disqualify 98% of the English language would be a death sentence.

3. Remember that the title is part of your poem:

This is simple, yet often forgotten. If your poem is about pollution and the title is The Turtles Are Dying, then ABSOLUTELY do not repeat yourself. If you are going to put a line in your title then to put that same line in the poem, or vice versa is to assume your audience dull. We see this too often in poets that enjoy repeating themselves, continually playing on the same phrase over and over again, apparently to make a point yet all it does is bore me. Instead, rather than taking a line from the text and making it your title, you should pick a title that encapsulates the entire feeling. One of my own poems about hating birds is named “Blue Jays,” though I never specifically named any specific species in the piece.

4. End each line with words that matter:

This also goes along with the first bit of advice, but one of the main draws to the left-aligned piece is that it gives you the ability to end each of your lines with a striking word that fits your tone. You never want to end a line with throw-away words such as “and” “it” “me” etc. You can see below in the snippet of Claude McKay’s nature poem “To One Coming North” that each ending word helps to define the tone. (Note: While rhymes are present in this piece, and I said not to do that, this piece was written in the early 20th century, so it isn’t the contemporary poetry we write today.)

“And when the fields and streets are covered white
And the wind-worried void is chilly, raw,
Or underneath a spell of heat and light
The cheerless frozen spots begin to thaw,”


5. Understand your use of enjambment, or end-stopped lines:

Compared to all of the other pieces of advice here this one is a bit more advanced, yet this small change can completely transform how your poem sounds. In short, enjambment is to end your line without any punctuation and to move onto the next line; this creates a fast-paced poem in which each line flows into the next. End-stopped lines, however, are when an author ends her lines with punctuation, whether it be a period, semicolon, comma, what have you. End-stopped lines should be in use whenever each individual line must be stressed, such as the language in poems on grief. These techniques should not be sporadic throughout a single poem, but instead should be used in a majority of lines for whichever method you decide to use.

6. Create a scene:

This should be self-evident in any writing, but you must understand the difference between concrete language and abstract. A reader must be able to understand what is happening in your poem, not just what you are feeling because feelings are subjective and non-descriptive. Concrete language is used to create a visual scene, words like “table,” “desk,” “oak.” Abstract words are words that are most often associated with poetry, yet do nothing to paint any picture, such as “angry,” “depressed,” “excited.” A reader will not care about your work if they can’t tell what it’s about, rather than writing about being sad write about a moment when you were sad. Write the why.

7. Do not hide things from your audience:

What do you gain from putting your meaning behind walls? In the many workshops I have done, there is always too much “Well, you see, the flower is actually my mother, and you would have known that if you knew that in ancient Greek the word ‘mom’ is ‘μήτηρ.’” This does nothing but, and I can promise you this, annoy your audience beyond belief. Your poem should speak for both itself and you, not the other way around. Don’t be afraid to be brute and say what you mean; we’re writing poetry not riddles.

I'd love to see any poetry you create using these methods!!
:blob_teary:No rhymes... Such injustice unheard. What about alliterations? :blob_cookie:
 

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Ah yes - everything that turned me away from modern poetry and back to classical stuff (though supposedly, according to teachers and the friends who stumbled on my efforts, I have a knack for modern poetry and, at best, produce doggerel in the classical style myself)... :biggrin_s:
 

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Ah yes - everything that turned me away from modern poetry and back to classical stuff
Love reading the classical stuff but god there's just sooo many rules to getting it right, and I'm pretty sure I only know like a third of them. Stuff like epic poetry is so hard I'd rather dig a trench with my two front teeth alone :blob_joy:
 

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2. Do not rhyme:

If you’re coming out to high school or just starting to get into the craft, I understand that this sounds insane. Poetry has been nothing but rhyming for so long? Thousands of years even? But that’s just it, that is precisely why, as contemporary poets, we absolutely cannot rhyme. To put it simply, rhyme is dead. When was these last time you even saw something that rhymed? I can guarantee that it wasn’t poetry, but more likely than not it was some sort of advertising, and once the jaws of capitalism swallow any technique I can guarantee you that it’s not worth getting back. Additionally, why might we want to have rhyme back anyways? When crafting a poem, restricting ourselves to such a small selection of words shall only do us harm. I already have trouble finding the right words, so to disqualify 98% of the English language would be a death sentence.
I fucking hate rhymes because it makes most poems sound stupid, like rhymes are only one 1 stylistic device, if you can rhyme it sure do but forcing everything no matter the cost to rhyme making it rule number 1 is to me nothing but outrageous.
 

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I fucking hate rhymes because it makes most poems sound stupid, like rhymes are only one 1 stylistic device, if you can rhyme it sure do but forcing everything no matter the cost to rhyme making it rule number 1 is to me nothing but outrageous.
Also since there is an actual limit to how many words rhyme with other words, I'm pretty sure that across the past 5,000 years we've said and rhymed literally everything that is possible and interesting. At this point, it's just rehashing the classics but way worse
 

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Also since there is an actual limit to how many words rhyme with other words, I'm pretty sure that across the past 5,000 years we've said and rhymed literally everything that is possible and interesting. At this point, it's just rehashing the classics but way worse
luckily, we can invent new words
To the Skibidi of Infinity

"YOLO." said Millennials and "yeet." the Zoomers cried.
"Rizzler gyatt fanum tax." the Alphas then replied
And lo, there came a shaking as an ebon spire rose
Upon it writ the tongues of men, their generations' prose
And from the sky a thund'rous voice called out unto the stone,
As golden letters glowed upon its surface, newly shown:
"RIZZLER GYATT FANUM TAX. SIGMA OHIO SKIBIDI."
And all beheld the the words embossed theron in great timidity.
With shaking and with wavering voice, the grim refrain began
as all the generations sang the verse at its command
Their weeping and their running sores did nothing to delay
The chanting of that fevered song as night succumbed to day
But rose that morn a blighted sun whose light scoured like a flood
The sky was rent asunder and the rivers turned to blood
Their flesh peeled off in sickly strips, their bones were rendered bare
And they still chanted ever on, the words they uttered there
Until bone and flesh and earth and death were all forgotten things
And still unbidden, undesired, the blackened spire sings
Around it wind the whispers of the souls in its captivity:
"rizzler gyatt fanum tax... sigma ohio skibidi.'​

iambic pentameter, btw (not my poem, to be clear here)
i doubt sending something like this would get you published on a magazine or something tho... maybe in a few more decades. there's just a certain beauty to all the rules that classical poetry have that makes modern poetry feel lacking to me. i do enjoy ones that only have one to three words per line though, has the kind of vibe abstract art has.
 
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Hiya! I've posted this elsewhere before but I think it's important for authors to learn more about the economy of words. I'm a poet before anything else, and I really think that learning to write modern poetry will improve anyone's writing. So yeah, here's the basics of what I learned in college, and the tips that have gotten me published across multiple literary journals.



Step by step we’ll go through everything amateur poets do wrong, and I will try to show just what is needed instead. Of course, poetry is a huge topic to handle, but in examining contemporary works there are but a few techniques you can use to bring your poem to the next level.

1. Do not center your poems:

To many, this should seem like an obvious, but to a less informed group maybe not so much. To center a poem is to age it nearly a hundred years and to try to make it look more poetic. When looking at poetry, you can almost feel a sense of professionalism in a left justified piece, and to prove my point, pick up any serious poetry book and find me one good centered poem. Most importantly, a left-justified piece also dramatically ends your lines, a technique we will further discuss as it can drastically alter the meaning of your poem. If you have a real reason, then I suppose I shall let it slide, but to have a purpose is to understand the body and rhythm of a poem otherwise, you risk looking like nothing but an amateur.

2. Do not rhyme:

If you’re coming out to high school or just starting to get into the craft, I understand that this sounds insane. Poetry has been nothing but rhyming for so long? Thousands of years even? But that’s just it, that is precisely why, as contemporary poets, we absolutely cannot rhyme. To put it simply, rhyme is dead. When was these last time you even saw something that rhymed? I can guarantee that it wasn’t poetry, but more likely than not it was some sort of advertising, and once the jaws of capitalism swallow any technique I can guarantee you that it’s not worth getting back. Additionally, why might we want to have rhyme back anyways? When crafting a poem, restricting ourselves to such a small selection of words shall only do us harm. I already have trouble finding the right words, so to disqualify 98% of the English language would be a death sentence.

3. Remember that the title is part of your poem:

This is simple, yet often forgotten. If your poem is about pollution and the title is The Turtles Are Dying, then ABSOLUTELY do not repeat yourself. If you are going to put a line in your title then to put that same line in the poem, or vice versa is to assume your audience dull. We see this too often in poets that enjoy repeating themselves, continually playing on the same phrase over and over again, apparently to make a point yet all it does is bore me. Instead, rather than taking a line from the text and making it your title, you should pick a title that encapsulates the entire feeling. One of my own poems about hating birds is named “Blue Jays,” though I never specifically named any specific species in the piece.


7. Do not hide things from your audience:

What do you gain from putting your meaning behind walls? In the many workshops I have done, there is always too much “Well, you see, the flower is actually my mother, and you would have known that if you knew that in ancient Greek the word ‘mom’ is ‘μήτηρ.’” This does nothing but, and I can promise you this, annoy your audience beyond belief. Your poem should speak for both itself and you, not the other way around. Don’t be afraid to be brute and say what you mean; we’re writing poetry not riddles.

I'd love to see any poetry you create using these methods!!
I agree with some of what you've said, but here's my two cents on what I disagree with.

First off, formatting. No 'do nots', formatting is just another tool and should be left flexible for whatever best suits the poem and the writer's taste, saying 'do not' limits creative expression, even if in the majority of cases you will not be using other formats.

Second, rhyming. This is a step too far. I think it's important for people to realize that they don't *need* their poetry to rhyme, but again, saying don't do something is an artificial restriction on creativity, rather than good advice. Even more so when you consider that music and poetry are intimately linked, and that rhyming is a key part of certain, rather modern, musical styles. Such as rap. Sometimes, the self-imposed restriction of a certain writing structure enhances creativity rather than stifles it, because need breeds innovation.

Now about the title. Yes, it's a part of the poem. But I find it is still sometimes useful to put in the poem, because as the title it will help emphasize its context. I would also use the title in the poem if I was playing with different meanings of it in different stanzas. It's also useful to end a poem with, to cap it off and give direction to the energy of the writing, rather than let it disperse without a clear outlet.

I would, however, never put it at the beginning, because then it is certainly redundant.

Repetition in general is a useful technique. Creating a motif to play with, and once you establish a pattern, it makes breaking that pattern significant. Not that I wish to imply that you should always break that pattern, the pattern can have significance in itself, in being stable, so long as there is variance around it. Then the significance comes from the continuity despite the change.

'Don't hide things from the audience,' is- well, generally good advice, but not universal. I believe it comes from a place of correcting people's conceptions that all poetry is this deep inscrutable thing with many layers and interpretation that has to be dissected, and well, that's not true. But I still think there is a lot to be gained from the poems that are written like that.

I'd argue that hiding something from the audience is a good thing, so long as that something is later revealed, giving new context and meaning to prior passages, potentially even changing the entire meaning, perhaps even incentivising the reader to read it again with the new understanding. Again it's another case of setting a status quo, and then changing it, and that's what a story is at it's most basic.

Not that all poems are stories. Often, they are more like snapshots of a moment, of a feeling, captured and put into words. A photograph, rather a film.

Tangeant aside, I do also believe there is room for poems that don't tell you exactly what's going on, what they're about, ever. Poems where every person interprets it differently, in a way personal to them. It should be done with intention of course, it's all too easy for people to overuse this on everything in an attempt to sound more sophisticated, but it has its place and should not be completely disregarded either. I personally love that kind of thing, where there's many different possible meanings and interpretations, and trying to explore them all.
 
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As someone considered uncultured - I did not attend high school, I admire ancient poetry. Nothing better than a drink, a good drinking companion, and some poetry to discuss.

The old greats are awe-inspiring: rhythms that stretch through entire epics, brilliantly thought-out rhymes, layers of meaning hidden in analogies and obscure references - it is beautiful. And this beauty is not restricted to English alone, from byliny to the khamsa of Nizami to the Alpamish, the great poems of old proved themselves through time.

Putting everything in the open leaves little to the reader's mind. Mystery enthusiasts will understand the appeal of discovering layers of hidden meaning.
And there is a reason rhymes were and are so common in song and poetry: they make remembering poems much easier.
That does not mean that every line ending must rhyme. The choice not to rhyme one particular line can be as significant as an enjambment.

Of course, the rhythm is the most important factor, at least in English. Take this paper on The perception of rhythm in language, for instance. Do you notice?
I would consider rap is a form of poetry since it is in essence chanted verse. Surely scholars have found some great reasons why it is not, but to an uneducated man like myself, rappers are closer to the greats of old than most modern poets I've read.

Lastly, let me disclaim the notion that rhyming poetry cannot be found within the last hundred years:
In a Dark Time by Theodore Roethke
Unromantic Love by J.V. Cunningham
Gentle Art of Shabby Dressing by Spencer Short

luckily, we can invent new words
To the Skibidi of Infinity

"YOLO." said Millennials and "yeet." the Zoomers cried.
"Rizzler gyatt fanum tax." the Alphas then replied
And lo, there came a shaking as an ebon spire rose
Upon it writ the tongues of men, their generations' prose
And from the sky a thund'rous voice called out unto the stone,
As golden letters glowed upon its surface, newly shown:
"RIZZLER GYATT FANUM TAX. SIGMA OHIO SKIBIDI."
And all beheld the the words embossed theron in great timidity.
With shaking and with wavering voice, the grim refrain began
as all the generations sang the verse at its command
Their weeping and their running sores did nothing to delay
The chanting of that fevered song as night succumbed to day
But rose that morn a blighted sun whose light scoured like a flood
The sky was rent asunder and the rivers turned to blood
Their flesh peeled off in sickly strips, their bones were rendered bare
And they still chanted ever on, the words they uttered there
Until bone and flesh and earth and death were all forgotten things
And still unbidden, undesired, the blackened spire sings
Around it wind the whispers of the souls in its captivity:
"rizzler gyatt fanum tax... sigma ohio skibidi.'​

iambic pentameter, btw (not my poem, to be clear here)
i doubt sending something like this would get you published on a magazine or something tho... maybe in a few more decades. there's just a certain beauty to all the rules that classical poetry have that makes modern poetry feel lacking to me. i do enjoy ones that only have one to three words per line though, has the kind of vibe abstract art has.
That was an enjoyable read. Since it is not your poem, whose poem is it? Iambic pentameter is a great choice for this kind of poem.
 

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I would consider rap is a form of poetry since it is in essence chanted verse. Surely scholars have found some great reasons why it is not, but to an uneducated man like myself, rappers are closer to the greats of old than most modern poets I've read.
Forget the idea of rap not being poetry, I'd say all lyrical music is poetry! I mean it's words, with rhythm, intended to express a feeling. What is that if not poetry? I mean, the origin of the word 'lyric', to begin with comes from poetry! Lyric poems were often sung, to the accompaniment of musical instruments!

Also, if you haven't already, check out Ren he's an amazing singer/rapper/songwriter. Hi Ren, The Tale of Jenny and Screech, and the Money Game Trilogy are good places to start.
 

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That was an enjoyable read. Since it is not your poem, whose poem is it? Iambic pentameter is a great choice for this kind of poem.
found it here
, according comments the poem's real name is "The Alpha Fragment" and the guy's pen name is R.J. Williamson, he submits the poems directly to the channel so you can only find them there
 
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