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What is the worst writing advice?


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I have the best writing advice. Don't listen to any writing advice. Everyone is a bad author and some are more badder than others. And by not listening to any writing advice, that also means you shouldn't listen to this writing advice either.

Thanks for listening to my writing advice.
 
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If anyone wants a serious writing advice, there is one thing I learned from years of writing. Readers want to be entertained more than anything else. You can have bad grammar and get millions of views and patreon subs. Find your chosen audience wherever they are, and give them their entertainment.
 
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By the way, there are readers for everything. What do you call readers who enjoy stories without any dialogue attribution?


Need to know basis readers.

That was the worst joke I've ever made, and you're welcome.
 

Rookieqw

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"Write for yourself" with caveats. If your goal is to attract an audience and grow, this is the worst advice, as you'll stagnate. If you write to lose stress, then it is awesome.

And "Read more". Simply reading does not always work. I have limited intelligence and can't understand every usage of language, so no matter how much I read, I'll never become as great as other awesome authors. But I can and do improve in other areas when given a clearer direction.
 

Tempokai

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Rules are tools, not laws.

"Showing" and "telling" are rhetorical choices, you need to know when to use which. Showing (immersive details) invites reader interpretation. Telling (direct statements) clarifies or moves the story forward.

"Keep it simple, stupid" is a fallacy. Emotional clarity and dramatic impact matter more than just reducing words. But "simplicity" doesn’t mean "hollow." Sacrificing depth in for oversimplified prose is stupid.

"Make it concise" works only when the prose is overbloated. Story’s purpose should dictate how much or how little is needed.

"Write an outline, dummy" only works for dummies. Outlines can be useful, but over-planning will strangle creativity. Drama often emerges from organic character interactions and that strict outlines can sometimes flatten that emotional impact you seek when writing.

"Whenever you're stuck, kill a character" is a cheap emotional trick. Death in storytelling should have thematic and emotional weight, not just exist as a writer’s crutch. Drama and tension should emerge from deeper conflicts, and death is culmination of them.

"Write what you want to write" is incomplete. The real quote is "write what you love, but understand how to make others care."

"Write what the readers want" is a stupid mindset. Persuasion is about resonance, not blind conformity of stale tropes, aka a story should invite readers into the author’s vision, rather than just mimic popular tropes.

"Use only 'said'/'asked' dialogue tags" is only good advice here. "Said" can be neutral but also invisible. But, variety in dialogue presentation matters, too many "said"s can be dull, but overuse of fancy alternatives can feel overwritten and distracting. Balance is key. Dialogue tags must be chosen to match tone and rhythm, rather than blindly following this rule.

"Use only action tags" is stupid. Action beats can smoothly integrate the description, but being too theatrical is stupid. Action should serve a rhetorical function and not just be flashy for its own sake. Action tags are tools, not absolute rule everyone must follow.

"Use no tags and say, 'fuck it, the reader doesn’t need to know who’s talking'" is stupid for a beginner. Clarity builds reader trust, and if dialogue tag doesn't clarify, it is not needed in that context. The best approach for this contextual awareness.

At the end of the day, writing mastery comes from understanding why certain techniques work in some situations but fail in others, not blindly following "da rules" some armchair writers had written on the internet. Peace.
 
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Rules are tools, not laws.

"Showing" and "telling" are rhetorical choices, you need to know when to use which. Showing (immersive details) invites reader interpretation. Telling (direct statements) clarifies or moves the story forward.

"Keep it simple, stupid" is a fallacy. Emotional clarity and dramatic impact matter more than just reducing words. But "simplicity" doesn’t mean "hollow." Sacrificing depth in for oversimplified prose is stupid.

"Make it concise" works only when the prose is overbloated. Story’s purpose should dictate how much or how little is needed.

"Write an outline, dummy" only works for dummies. Outlines can be useful, but over-planning will strangle creativity. Drama often emerges from organic character interactions and that strict outlines can sometimes flatten that emotional impact you seek when writing.

"Whenever you're stuck, kill a character" is a cheap emotional trick. Death in storytelling should have thematic and emotional weight, not just exist as a writer’s crutch. Drama and tension should emerge from deeper conflicts, and death is culmination of them.

"Write what you want to write" is incomplete. The real quote is "write what you love, but understand how to make others care."

"Write what the readers want" is a stupid mindset. Persuasion is about resonance, not blind conformity of stale tropes, aka a story should invite readers into the author’s vision, rather than just mimic popular tropes.

"Use only 'said'/'asked' dialogue tags" is only good advice here. "Said" can be neutral but also invisible. But, variety in dialogue presentation matters, too many "said"s can be dull, but overuse of fancy alternatives can feel overwritten and distracting. Balance is key. Dialogue tags must be chosen to match tone and rhythm, rather than blindly following this rule.

"Use only action tags" is stupid. Action beats can smoothly integrate the description, but being too theatrical is stupid. Action should serve a rhetorical function and not just be flashy for its own sake. Action tags are tools, not absolute rule everyone must follow.

"Use no tags and say, 'fuck it, the reader doesn’t need to know who’s talking'" is stupid for a beginner. Clarity builds reader trust, and if dialogue tag doesn't clarify, it is not needed in that context. The best approach for this contextual awareness.

At the end of the day, writing mastery comes from understanding why certain techniques work in some situations but fail in others, not blindly following "da rules" some armchair writers had written on the internet. Peace.
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Reminds me of a guy back in FP who will always tell us to tag all dialogues and avoid the word said.

Like what did "said" do to you? Sleep with your girlfriend?
 

Theresaisnotmenhera

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I dislike the advice, "Show, and don't tell." I feel the advice has exacerbated a worse symptom, that is, our narrative expression has been hijacked by cinema.

Because cinema—by which I mean any visual narrative—is the dominant cultural mode of storytelling, authors inadvertently imagine story structures and scenes visually in their mental faculties before ascribing them to their notebooks. The advice, as misunderstood as it is, almost encourages the line of thinking. Suffice it to say here that prose writing and cinema are two completely different mediums, and so trying to translate one to another is a less than graceful attempt at imitation of an imitation. Hyperreal.
 

LilRora

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Damn I expected far less distributed votes.

The main issue with most of those is not the advice itself, but the circumstances they're told in. Almost any writing advice can work in specific cases, but most will be useless or even disruptive when someone tries to apply them to their whole writing, not to mention attempting to make them general writing rules which doesn't really work at all. A related thing is that any advice told without an explanation is practically worthless.
 

TreasureHouse

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Remember to let the idea brew in your head for a few days. If it's still there, then it's a good idea.

paraphrasing that one Steven shining midnight tower dome fellow
 
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