Writing Writing a terrorist group

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The Dire Talon is an anti-establishment international terrorist organization, whose mission statement is to destroy society and recreate a better world for demihumans, by any means necessary.
Demi-Humans is a umbrella term for a species of hybrid status, such as Kemonomini, Half-Elves, Half-Orc, Dhampirs, etc. While not entirely human, they have a similar appearance. They are often the victims of prejudice because of said status.
The Dire Talon's origin is that some of its founding members left the Turtledove Foundation, a peacekeeping organization, and chose a more "hands-on" approach.

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Maybe show how the not as hands-on approach isn't working in their perspective. I think that's one of the basic but most effective reasons for a breakaway faction. Have the previous approach fail, causing the other faction to question the methods and turn radical.

Something like showing how Turtledove's kindness or more mild-mannered ways not being conductive to actual change. At least one that they can see directly, and they've just run out of patience. Hey, it's some truth in reality, too.
 

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Personally, I think that you should look into how some peace-keeping corps turn into militant groups fast. The idea of terrorism is nationalist in perspective, so you can probably look into the armed groups surrounding the Chilean avocado trade. It's a fascinating thing to see. You can view that on episode 1 of "Rotten" on Netflix.

Maybe show how the not as hands-on approach isn't working in their perspective. I think that's one of the basic but most effective reasons for a breakaway faction. Have the previous approach fail, causing the other faction to question the methods and turn radical.

Something like showing how Turtledove's kindness or more mild-mannered ways not being conductive to actual change. At least one that they can see directly, and they've just run out of patience. Hey, it's some truth in reality, too.
You can also showcase how corruption also seeps in when they've displaced the threats. You can show them diverge simply because of resources, family issues, or social constructs that, despite being of a different time, still affects them.
 

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The thing is that if you offer something peacefully, people tend to ignore you, but if you kick their asses to deliver the same meaning, they tend to blame you. Make opposition for the terrorists and give reasons why their actions hurt society, then offer an explanation why they consider this sacrifice necessary. Depending what you want Turtledove to be, you can use corruption of saviors, misplaced responsibility, or personal reasons for its failings, and adjust terrorists' methods to cover them.
 

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depends on how you want to portray them as well. the "freedom fighter" angle or the "murderous do whatever we think will get what we want" terrorist. how the Turtledove Organization is portrayed, as LilRora also makes a good point about, can affect how the Dire Talon will be portrayed. have you plotted out their particular stance (ie demihuman supremacy or just proper equal treatment and attitudes)? What about the world at large? is the whole world absolutely discriminatory or is it just a core of human supremacists manipulating their masses for their own ends?

portraying a group like this, if you want to avoid going the simple cliche route, is a complex undertaking.
 

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You need a good terrorist leader with a cult of personality.
 

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You probably have to expand more on how their ideals will mutually benefit everyone except the establishment, to make their cause more sympathetic. If they only want to create a good world only for demi-humans, then they're no different from the current establishment. It would be basically the same system under a different name.

Also, are they a terrorist group that indiscriminately kills innocent civilians or are they like the IRA that tries to minimize civilian casualties wherever possible? Their image is everything.
 
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Looking back, I should have refine the motives for the Dire Talon more clearly. Now, the best way to describe their goal is "fighting against systemic oppression".

There's a splinter faction called the Crimson Brigade, who indiscriminately kill innocent civilians, even demihumans they deem "race-traitors".

So from a certain point of view, the Dire Talon is more akin to the IRA, and the Crimson Brigade is more akin to the standard terrorist group.
 

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#FreeBajor
#DukatSucks

The Bajoran Resistance is the most realistic fictional terrorist organization in cinema. Their conflict with the Cardassians is similar to your narrative. IRL accounts are too politically skewed for a reliable reference. Just watch Deep Space 9.
 

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I would consider looking to Marvel Comics X-Men, primarily Magneto and the original Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, even more the era between Giant X-Men #1 (introduction of the "international" X-team and Chris Claremont taking the reins as writer) through the Fall of the Mutants (around 1990) when Magneto went from being a "simple" Mutant Supremacist to being a holocaust survivor who had seen the worst humanity had to offer and, after trying his close friend's more pacifistic methods, decided the only way for any sort of peace is to overthrow the normal humans and rule over them.
 

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Do their logos look like this? (Show: RWBY, Song: Lionize)


Looking back, I should have refine the motives for the Dire Talon more clearly. Now, the best way to describe their goal is "fighting against systemic oppression".
The best advise I can give is to create 'protagonists' for each faction within the organizations. They should each have the same goals and motivations as a normal main character. If you could write an entire book from that person's perspective, it should be simple to flesh out the faction as a whole.

Example: Who founded the White Fan- ahem, Dire Talon, and why were they unsatisfied with Turtledove?
Who founded Crimson Brigade and why?
Now, how do they recruit? What kind of people were able to join each organization, and what would they do if they joined the wrong one? Do some of them want to leave, but feel compelled to stay?
Are they antagonistic to each other, and to what degree? Would the Talon help the Foundation against the Brigade, or would they look the other way out of spite?
Are there other factions involved; human-only, merchant, criminal, foreign, religious, or communal groups? How closely tied are they? They need food, shelter and supplies for a whole bunch of people, and it has to come from somewhere. They also need a place to send anyone they want safe or out of the way.

Lastly, they aren't terrorists if they don't attack civilians. So have fun writing that. :blob_neutral:
 

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The Dire Talon's origin is that some of its founding members left the Turtledove Foundation, a peacekeeping organization, and chose a more "hands-on" approach.

How should I expand upon this?
terrorist attacks by Dire Talon. Turtledove disavowing them for political solutions and power to try and solve racial issues.
 

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Who founded the White Fan- ahem, Dire Talon, and why were they unsatisfied with Turtledove?
Founders:
  • Castor Volk (lupine Beastkin from Albion’s slums)
  • Zoya Makarova (lizard Quimera tactician from Pandosia)
  • Daimon Reyes (disillusioned human rights lawyer)
  • Nia Solara (half-orc journalist turned propagandist)
Why they left Turtledove:
The Turtledove Foundation was deeply rooted in peaceful reform: lobbying, civil protests, legal challenges. While it made symbolic gains, it fundamentally underestimated the economic and military stranglehold of the Kawasaki Zaibatsu and their puppet governments. For the founders of Dire Talon, Turtledove’s reliance on diplomacy and moral appeals amounted to passive complicity — "begging for scraps from the masters' table."

They believed that the system could not be reformed from within and that waiting for "approval" from global institutions was a betrayal to those already suffering and dying. So, to achieve true liberation, the entire power structure must dismantled, violently if necessary. Thus, the Dire Talon was born as a militant insurgency designed to fight fire with fire, with no illusions about mercy or forgiveness from the ruling class.
Who founded Crimson Brigade and why?
Founder:
  • Castor Volk, one of the original Dire Talon founders.
During Operation Pale Wake (2105), a Kawasaki Zaibatsu convoy was targeted. Zoya Makarova refused to attack it when she learned it carried unarmed civilians and forced laborers. Castor, on the other hand, viewed any infrastructure, anyone wearing the Zaibatsu insignia — even forced laborers — as "tainted."

His philosophy: "If they wear the mark, they burn."

For Castor, the war was no longer about strategic liberation. It became about pure vengeance and purification — eliminating all collaborators and passive bystanders. With that, the Crimson Brigade split off, representing the most nihilistic, scorched-earth philosophy within the demihuman resistance.
Now, how do they recruit? What kind of people were able to join each organization, and what would they do if they joined the wrong one? Do some of them want to leave, but feel compelled to stay?

Dire Talon​

Recruitment Methods:
  • Underground networks in demihuman ghettos and refugee sectors.
  • Propaganda, leaked documentaries of Kawasaki Zaibatsu atrocities.
  • One-on-one recruitment via trusted handlers in urban safe-houses.
Who joins:
  • Disillusioned demihumans who lost families and careers to the Kawasaki Zaibatsu.
  • Ex-soldiers or security contractors are tired of serving corrupt states.
  • Hackers, sabotage engineers, idealists radicalized by brutal crackdowns.
What happens if they joined "the wrong one":
If someone joins the Talon but proves too soft (refusing to harm critical infrastructure or sabotage), they are usually demoted to logistical support roles, propaganda, or smuggling. Deserters are rare — those who attempt to leave often do so under heavy surveillance, and the organization does not hesitate to "silence" potential leaks if they pose a threat.

Do some want to leave?
Yes. Some do. Many stay because they see no alternative, others because of loyalty to Eva Praxis personally, or guilt over comrades they feel they’d be abandoning.



Crimson Brigade​

Recruitment Methods:
  • Violent raids into demihuman slums, forcibly "converting" residents through intimidation.
  • Propaganda emphasizing rage, vengeance, and "purity" of action.
  • Cult-like indoctrination sessions in hidden strongholds.
Who joins:
  • Deeply traumatized individuals who have lost everything and want to see the world burn.
  • Those who believe all non-combatant or "passive" demihumans are traitors by inaction.
  • Sadistic opportunists attracted to chaos and unchecked violence.
What happens if they joined "the wrong one":
Anyone expressing doubt or mercy is branded a traitor and executed, often publicly as an example. Escape is almost impossible once fully initiated.

Do some want to leave?
Yes, though far fewer admit it openly. Most are kept in line through fear, trauma bonds, or the belief they can’t return to normal society after what they’ve done.
Are they antagonistic to each other, and to what degree? Would the Talon help the Foundation against the Brigade, or would they look the other way out of spite?
Yes — but it’s complicated.
  • The Dire Talon views the Crimson Brigade as an uncontrollable cancer that undermines the broader demihuman liberation movement. Their indiscriminate massacres make it harder to win civilian sympathy or gain international support.
  • The Crimson Brigade considers Dire Talon weak, "compromised" by pragmatism, and traitorous for refusing to embrace total war.

    In some cases, the Talon would help Turtledove against the Brigade — but reluctantly and selectively.
    • The Talon despises the Turtledove Foundation’s passivity but recognizes that a massacre of peaceful protesters by the Crimson Brigade could further legitimize Zaibatsu propaganda.
    • In such situations, Dire Talon may covertly sabotage Crimson Brigade plans to prevent mass civilian casualties, not out of compassion for Turtledove, but to protect the "narrative" and strategic viability of their own war.
Are there other factions involved; human-only, merchant, criminal, foreign, religious, or communal groups?
The Paramount Society, a human-only militia — funded by a secret alliance of aristocrats, oligarchs, and corporate magnates from across the globe.

Publicly, the Society presented itself as a "traditionalist guardianship network" — a so-called defense of "human heritage and purity." Behind closed doors, however, they were a virulent hate group devoted to enforcing human supremacy and reclaiming perceived "natural dominance" over demihumans and magical races.
 
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The Dire Talon's origin is that some of its founding members left the Turtledove Foundation, a peacekeeping organization, and chose a more "hands-on" approach.

How should I expand upon this?
Have them pull a Magneto.
 
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