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[LMStephens]

You can use both. After writing it in Word and searching for all the mistakes, give your text a quick look through Grammarly to search for typos that you might've missed.

Good idea! I'll do that! Thanks!

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Good idea! I'll do that! Thanks!

You can also add an extra layer of edit through Google Docs. That's what I do. Also, yet another thing I heard can help, finding an app that can read aloud your text for you.

 

[vaurwyn]

No, I don't have an issue with the whole pointing out my typos, that's a help. I didn't mean to make it seem like I didn't want people to point out my typos, but now that the review is up and edit my story, which I am going to do because I've gotten some good contructive critism, that review still says that there are typos in my work and there is nothing I can do about it. What I was calling attention to is the incorrect criticism especially when people are being haughty about it.

My comment was not addressing your situation, only what you said in your forum post. However, now that I have read the review, I am baffled as to why you hate it so much.
I haven't read your story, so I can't comment on the validity, but the review was far from haughty or unreasonable.

They mentioned the good points of your novel, before clearly explaining the issues you have with it. As a whole, I find it to be a pretty good review.

If they have made a mistake, then you can call those out, by PM, but just because one of the examples they cited out of four was wrong does not mean they were haughty or even that their overall criticism was wrong. Making a mistake is not the same thing as not knowing what you are talking about.

 

[Carpio]

Honestly, these criticisms are correct most times. And I'm gonna vent, but it's annoying how they kinda insult you and/or your readers in between which makes it seem less thrid party. Though what annoys me the most is how they turned off their profile... That way if you want to see if they've written anything and return the favor, you can't.

I just love getting a review where people clearly don't know what they are talking about. Everybody makes typos in writing, no one is perfect. Obviously I have more editing to do, which is normal since hey, we're all human. My favorite one though is telling me that it's not unexperienced but inexperienced. Actually, it's both. Uh, yea, I use editor in MS Word. It's not perfect but you know. Anyway, in the English language, a lot of words can be spelled more than one way. Unexperienced and inexperienced is one of them. I love the dictionary.

Unexperienced

Inexperienced

Also, it's a good idea to accept criticisms, sorry to say but you're novel has a 2.8 rating... But I bet you can get it to rise. My advice is instead of continuing, take some time and go back to revise/edit/update your story. Try doing what they criticized you for and things will turn out much better!

 

[LMStephens]

My comment was not addressing your situation, only what you said in your forum post. However, now that I have read the review, I am baffled as to why you hate it so much.
I haven't read your story, so I can't comment on the validity, but the review was far from haughty or unreasonable.

They mentioned the good points of your novel, before clearly explaining the issues you have with it. As a whole, I find it to be a pretty good review.

If they have made a mistake, then you can call those out, by PM, but just because one of the examples they cited out of four was wrong does not mean they were haughty or even that their overall criticism was wrong. Making a mistake is not the same thing as not knowing what you are talking about.

I never said that I hated the review. There are very good points in the review that I will use to improve my writing. What makes it haughty is the ending where they say
"...and my personal favorite "Unexperienced" which isn't even a word (should be inexperienced)"

The addition of the 'my personal favorite' is smart allick in nature. I say it all the time, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Why add the "and my personal favorite"? It's gives the image that they are in some ways rolling their eyes to say that I should know better. Just simply say, "Unexperienced should be inexperienced."

Honestly, these criticisms are correct most times. And I'm gonna vent, but it's annoying how they kinda insult you and/or your readers in between which makes it seem less thrid party. Though what annoys me the most is how they turned off their profile... That way if you want to see if they've written anything and return the favor, you can't.

Also, it's a good idea to accept criticisms, sorry to say but you're novel has a 2.8 rating... But I bet you can get it to rise. My advice is instead of continuing, take some time and go back to revise/edit/update your story. Try doing what they criticized you for and things will turn out much better!

That's exactly what they did! They turned off their profile and in addition to this, they reduced their rating from 2 stars to 1 star because of what I said on the forum. I never said that I wasn't going to take their criticism. Where in this whole thread did I say I wasn't going to take it? There is a lot of good points in the review that I will apply to editing my work. I never said that I wasn't going to edit and redo my story either. I actually edit and review my stories very often. When I was reading my story off the websites that I post them on (this one and Royal Road) I found some mistakes that I made that need fixing.

You can also add an extra layer of edit through Google Docs. That's what I do. Also, yet another thing I heard can help, finding an app that can read aloud your text for you.

Ok, cool, will do! Haha thanks for all of your help. MS Word has a read aloud feature that I use. It is really helpful.

 

[LoliWithAGlock]

Though what annoys me the most is how they turned off their profile... That way if you want to see if they've written anything and return the favor, you can't.

I haven't written anything, and my profile is private because I don't need people snooping through it. My account was made explicitly to comment and rate on a diffirent story, but when I saw how this guy was refusing to accept criticism on their original thread, I decided to leave and review so that they couldn't ignore the feedback.

If feedback hadn't been asked for, I would have ignored the story completely. If I hadn't seen them blowing off other users just trying to offer helpful advice, I would have ignored the story completely.

No, just because people don't like your story doesn't mean they're "Rude"

LMS simply proved my original assumption by imediately jumping to the forums like this; They can't handle critique that isn't over saturated with praise.


I removed the reference to Unexperianced not being a word, but everything else I wrote in that review still stands.

from 2 stars to 1 star because of what I said on the forum.

No, I lowered the rating because, after thinking about it over the night (I wrote the review yesterday, it took some time to be approved), I realized your dialogue was just that bad.

I had to reread the people talking scenes multiple times because of how unengaging it was; I kept zoning out.

If I rated based on your temper tantrum here, that would constitute "Reviewing the Author instead of the story.", that is against Scribble Hub's terms of service.

Message me when you fix the issues, and I'll reevaluate my review. Until then, tata.

 

[Ai-chan]

I just love getting a review where people clearly don't know what they are talking about. Everybody makes typos in writing, no one is perfect. Obviously I have more editing to do, which is normal since hey, we're all human. My favorite one though is telling me that it's not unexperienced but inexperienced. Actually, it's both. Uh, yea, I use editor in MS Word. It's not perfect but you know. Anyway, in the English language, a lot of words can be spelled more than one way. Unexperienced and inexperienced is one of them. I love the dictionary.

Unexperienced

Inexperienced

Grammarly helps in reducing much of the typos and errors in writing. Of course, if you don't know English, it still wouldn't make much sense. However, it does help you catch all those errors that your eyes would've glossed over either due to tiredness or essay poisoning. This post that Ai-chan make has not been run through grammarly, though.

 

[LMStephens]

I haven't written anything, and my profile is private because I don't need people snooping through it. My account was made explicitly to comment and rate on a diffirent story, but when I saw how this guy was refusing to accept criticism on their original thread, I decided to leave and review so that they couldn't ignore the feedback.

If feedback hadn't been asked for, I would have ignored the story completely. If I hadn't seen them blowing off other users just trying to offer helpful advice, I would have ignored the story completely.

No, just because people don't like your story doesn't mean they're "Rude"

LMS simply proved my original assumption by imediately jumping to the forums like this; They can't handle critique that isn't over saturated with praise.


I removed the reference to Unexperianced not being a word, but everything else I wrote in that review still stands.

No, I lowered the rating because, after thinking about it over the night (I wrote the review yesterday, it took some time to be approved), I realized your dialogue was just that bad.

I had to reread the people talking scenes multiple times because of how unengaging it was; I kept zoning out.

If I rated based on your temper tantrum here, that would constitute "Reviewing the Author instead of the story.", that is against Scribble Hub's terms of service.

Message me when you fix the issues, and I'll reevaluate my review. Until then, tata.

I take criticism very well, I just don't take tolerate people being rude to me. A person in my thread that I made introducing my story was very polite and gave me some pointers. I appreciated it and thanked him. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. How can I message you if you have your profile hidden? I would have actually liked to talk to you and ask for advice. I stand by what I said about your whole "my personal favorite." You should read the other comments in this thread where I clearly said that you have some pointers in your review that I intend to use when editing my story. I never said your review was harsh or rude. I never said that I didn't like your review. It's actually helpful, but the part about "my personal favorite" just seemed very haughty as if you were looking down your nose at me. The reason why I came to the forum and posted these threads was because I was unable to message you. If I could have messaged you I would have told you that unexperienced was a word and that it's ok if a write drops dialogue tags, but I couldn't. As for me having a temper tantrum. You call it that if you want to because I'm not angry at all. I'm actually very amused.

I haven't written anything, and my profile is private because I don't need people snooping through it. My account was made explicitly to comment and rate on a diffirent story, but when I saw how this guy was refusing to accept criticism on their original thread, I decided to leave and review so that they couldn't ignore the feedback.

If feedback hadn't been asked for, I would have ignored the story completely. If I hadn't seen them blowing off other users just trying to offer helpful advice, I would have ignored the story completely.

No, just because people don't like your story doesn't mean they're "Rude"

LMS simply proved my original assumption by imediately jumping to the forums like this; They can't handle critique that isn't over saturated with praise.


I removed the reference to Unexperianced not being a word, but everything else I wrote in that review still stands.

No, I lowered the rating because, after thinking about it over the night (I wrote the review yesterday, it took some time to be approved), I realized your dialogue was just that bad.

I had to reread the people talking scenes multiple times because of how unengaging it was; I kept zoning out.

If I rated based on your temper tantrum here, that would constitute "Reviewing the Author instead of the story.", that is against Scribble Hub's terms of service.

Message me when you fix the issues, and I'll reevaluate my review. Until then, tata.

Furthermore, I don't think people are rude if they don't like my story. I never said that. I actually said in my post where I shared my story that I know not everybody will like my story which is practicle.

 

[tiaf]

Honestly, these criticisms are correct most times. And I'm gonna vent, but it's annoying how they kinda insult you and/or your readers in between which makes it seem less thrid party. Though what annoys me the most is how they turned off their profile... That way if you want to see if they've written anything and return the favor, you can't.

Imo the review isn't insulting at all.

Forum--anyone can judge for themself

I come here because of this:

\o/ enlightenment to all people who didn't know unexperienced is a word

 

[LoliWithAGlock]

How can I message you if you have your profile hidden?

The same way you do on every forum.

Then on the next screen,

Put my username where it says "Username", Subject, body text, "Start a Direct Message"

And fine, I'll retract "Temper Tantrum" as well, and go with "seething".

 

[LMStephens]

The same way you do on every forum.

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Then on the next screen,

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Put my username where it says "Username", Subject, body text, "Start a Direct Message"

And fine, I'll retract "Temper Tantrum" as well, and go with "seething".

Ok, thank you.

 

[Carpio]

Imo the review isn't insulting at all.

Forum--anyone can judge for themself

I come here because of this:
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\o/ enlightenment to all people who didn't know unexperienced is a word

Mine was... It said my readers have primitive brains.

 

[LoliWithAGlock]

I take criticism very well, I just don't take tolerate people being rude to me. A person in my thread that I made introducing my story was very polite and gave me some pointers. I appreciated it and thanked him. It's not what you say, it's how you say it. How can I message you if you have your profile hidden? I would have actually liked to talk to you and ask for advice. I stand by what I said about your whole "my personal favorite." You should read the other comments in this thread where I clearly said that you have some pointers in your review that I intend to use when editing my story. I never said your review was harsh or rude. I never said that I didn't like your review. It's actually helpful, but the part about "my personal favorite" just seemed very haughty as if you were looking down your nose at me. The reason why I came to the forum and posted these threads was because I was unable to message you. If I could have messaged you I would have told you that unexperienced was a word and that it's ok if a write drops dialogue tags, but I couldn't. As for me having a temper tantrum. You call it that if you want to because I'm not angry at all. I'm actually very amused.

Furthermore, I don't think people are rude if they don't like my story. I never said that. I actually said in my post where I shared my story that I know not everybody will like my story which is practicle.

Ok, now I have spent a bit of time analyzing this. And I have a couple of things to refute.

I take criticism very well, I just don't take tolerate people being rude to me. A person in my thread that I made introducing my story was very polite and gave me some pointers. I appreciated it and thanked him. It's not what you say, it's how you say it.

Paragraph break, this is a new topic.

How can I message you if you have your profile hidden? I would have actually liked to talk to you and ask for advice. I stand by what I said about your whole "my personal favorite." You should read the other comments in this thread where I clearly said that you have some pointers in your review that I intend to use when editing my story. I never said your review was harsh or rude. I never said that I didn't like your review. It's actually helpful, but the part about "my personal favorite" just seemed very haughty as if you were looking down your nose at me.

Paragraph break, this is a new topic.

The reason why I came to the forum and posted these threads was because I was unable to message you. If I could have messaged you I would have told you that unexperienced was a word and that it's ok if a write drops dialogue tags, but I couldn't. As for me having a temper tantrum. You call it that if you want to because I'm not angry at all. I'm actually very amused.

The above is also a major issue with your story. That is what I meant when I said that "Paragraphs often address too many topics at once."

Now for my rebuttal. You made an entire forum thread to complain about a single line. People are going to think one of two things from that: You are either complaining about the review, or you are extremely petty.

Actually, sorry for my mistake. You made TWO forum threads. And spent the entire first from yesterday being snarky to critics, with one exception where the guy spent WAY more time than he needed to picking apart your synopsis. But even then, when you "accepted" his feedback, you still made a point of saying you "weren't sure about his example synopsis..." You couldn't just take the criticism in good faith, you had to put in a little comeback at the end.

You say "Rudeness isn't what you say, it's how you say it." In response, I'll go with this:

Ummm....not everybody knows that sweety...not everybody know the same thing. There are no absolutes. If you already know, then keep scrolling by, obviously I'm not directing this at people who already know.

That's you from your other thread made just to complain about my review. I feel honored to have so many of your thoughts by the way. The above is but a single example of many of you being snarky and "talking down your nose" at people. "It's not what you say... it's how you say it."

Regarding that other forum post of yours... you are correct. You don't need a dialogue tag when only two people are talking. But you should still use them to break things up. Another user already did a really good post on this though, and you blew them off. So I'll save the effort.

I truly, from the bottom of my heart, hope you are able to improve as a writer. But this... the way you behave... this ain't it chief.

Mine was... It said my readers have primitive brains.

I'm in the process of reading your first story. I'll have some things to say soon.

 

[tiaf]

Mine was... It said my readers have primitive brains.

Ganbatte.

 

[Deleted member 58005]

You're making a lot of enemies here, chief. I'm joking, of course.

I'm searching to behold the stories that are told
When my back is to the world that was smiling when I turned
Tell you you're the greatest
But once you turn they hate us
Oh, the misery
Everybody wants to be my enemy
Spare the sympathy
Everybody wants to be my enemy
(Look out for yourself)
My enemy (look, look, look, look)
(Look out for yourself)
But I'm ready
Your words up on the wall as you're praying for my fall
And the laughter in the halls and the names that I've been called
I stack it in my mind and I'm waiting for the time
When I show you what it's like to be words spit in a mic
Tell you you're the greatest
But once you turn they hate us
(Huh)
Oh, the misery
Everybody wants to be my enemy
Spare the sympathy
Everybody wants to be
My enemy (look, look, look, look)
(Look out for yourself)
My enemy (look, look, look, look) (yeah)
(Look out for yourself)

 

[LMStephens]

Ok, now I have spent a bit of time analyzing this. And I have a couple of things to refute.



Paragraph break, this is a new topic.


Paragraph break, this is a new topic.


The above is also a major issue with your story. That is what I meant when I said that "Paragraphs often address too many topics at once."

Now for my rebuttal. You made an entire forum thread to complain about a single line. People are going to think one of two things from that: You are either complaining about the review, or you are extremely petty.

Actually, sorry for my mistake. You made TWO forum threads. And spent the entire first from yesterday being snarky to critics, with one exception where the guy spent WAY more time than he needed to picking apart your synopsis. But even then, when you "accepted" his feedback, you still made a point of saying you "weren't sure about his example synopsis..." You couldn't just take the criticism in good faith, you had to put in a little comeback at the end.

You say "Rudeness isn't what you say, it's how you say it." In response, I'll go with this:

That's you from your other thread made just to complain about my review. I feel honored to have so many of your thoughts by the way. The above is but a single example of many of you being snarky and "talking down your nose" at people. "It's not what you say... it's how you say it."

Regarding that other forum post of yours... you are correct. You don't need a dialogue tag when only two people are talking. But you should still use them to break things up. Another user already did a really good post on this though, and you blew them off. So I'll save the effort.

I truly, from the bottom of my heart, hope you are able to improve as a writer. But this... the way you behave... this ain't it chief.

I'm in the process of reading your first story. I'll have some things to say soon.

I already said what I had to say about all this yesterday. I'm not a child, I can respond back to people and discuss things, that's how conversation goes. I discuss and talk to people all the time who give me criticism. I do it on Royal Road all the time and I get great criticism over there. Anyway, see what you want to see. I'm done with this topic.

Ok, now I have spent a bit of time analyzing this. And I have a couple of things to refute.



Paragraph break, this is a new topic.


Paragraph break, this is a new topic.


The above is also a major issue with your story. That is what I meant when I said that "Paragraphs often address too many topics at once."

Now for my rebuttal. You made an entire forum thread to complain about a single line. People are going to think one of two things from that: You are either complaining about the review, or you are extremely petty.

Actually, sorry for my mistake. You made TWO forum threads. And spent the entire first from yesterday being snarky to critics, with one exception where the guy spent WAY more time than he needed to picking apart your synopsis. But even then, when you "accepted" his feedback, you still made a point of saying you "weren't sure about his example synopsis..." You couldn't just take the criticism in good faith, you had to put in a little comeback at the end.

You say "Rudeness isn't what you say, it's how you say it." In response, I'll go with this:

That's you from your other thread made just to complain about my review. I feel honored to have so many of your thoughts by the way. The above is but a single example of many of you being snarky and "talking down your nose" at people. "It's not what you say... it's how you say it."

Regarding that other forum post of yours... you are correct. You don't need a dialogue tag when only two people are talking. But you should still use them to break things up. Another user already did a really good post on this though, and you blew them off. So I'll save the effort.

I truly, from the bottom of my heart, hope you are able to improve as a writer. But this... the way you behave... this ain't it chief.

I'm in the process of reading your first story. I'll have some things to say soon.

Now I really just want to move on with you. What was said yesterday was said. If I came across as being snarky and petty that was not my intent. I would like to message you and ask how I can improve my story. Obviously we have different opinions as to what is or isn't rude, but if I feel someone is being rude to me, I will always speak up. Also, I did separate my paragraphs in one story but I was told that my paragraphs were too short, so when I was editing I left them as is. Now when I chat on the forum, I don't much care how my writing looks. Anyway, I want to move on with you and put all of this behind me. Can we do that?

I have moved on from this thread and I am a big enough person to say that I'm sorry to everyone if I sounded a bit snarky and petty in my responses. It was not my intent to come across as hyper defensive and sensitive.

 

[LoliWithAGlock]

Now I really just want to move on with you. What was said yesterday was said.

Absolutely, I'll even throw out a quick bit of advice here as a peace offering. You might already know, but if you change the order of your chapters too soon after updating the story, it messes up your ranking in the "recently updated" section.

I say this because of your intention to leave the "lore chapter" at the very end of your story, which would require you to constantly be updating the chapter sort order.

When you upload a new chapter, make sure to give it a few hours before you change the sort order. That should be enough time for you to be pushed off recently updated naturally by other authors updating their own stories.

I would like to message you and ask how I can improve my story.

Of course, you can message me anytime. I won't go line by line though. I am willing to give broad strokes, like the format of my review, and provide a few examples like I did when I sorted your forum post into paragraphs, (though while being less of a smart-ass.) Also, whenever you want me to re-evaluate just tell me and I'll try and read it within twenty-four hours.

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As a word on the paragraphs, having paragraphs be "too short" is bad, but trying to tackle too much in the same paragraph is also bad. As a general rule, each paragraph should have a single idea to express, and at the most, it should only introduce the next idea, not comment on it. Then again, having only a single sentence is acceptable for dialogue:

LMS addressed Loli calmly, "How can I improve my story?"

Paragraphs can be irritating, especially because there aren't any tools able to track and sort paragraphs to aid in editing, at least none that I know of. That said, at least you were using them in the first place; there are a lot of stories here that use sentences, or post the entire story in block format!

 

[LMStephens]

Absolutely, I'll even throw out a quick bit of advice here as a peace offering. You might already know, but if you change the order of your chapters too soon after updating the story, it messes up your ranking in the "recently updated" section.

I say this because of your intention to leave the "lore chapter" at the very end of your story, which would require you to constantly be updating the chapter sort order.

When you upload a new chapter, make sure to give it a few hours before you change the sort order. That should be enough time for you to be pushed off recently updated naturally by other authors updating their own stories.



Of course, you can message me anytime. I won't go line by line though. I am willing to give broad strokes, like the format of my review, and provide a few examples like I did when I sorted your forum post into paragraphs, (though while being less of a smart-ass.) Also, whenever you want me to re-evaluate just tell me and I'll try and read it within twenty-four hours.

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As a word on the paragraphs, having paragraphs be "too short" is bad, but trying to tackle too much in the same paragraph is also bad. As a general rule, each paragraph should have a single idea to express, and at the most, it should only introduce the next idea, not comment on it. Then again, having only a single sentence is acceptable for dialogue:


Paragraphs can be irritating, especially because there aren't any tools able to track and sort paragraphs to aid in editing, at least none that I know of. That said, at least you were using them in the first place; there are a lot of stories here that use sentences, or post the entire story in block format!

Thank you, I will send you a message later, but I also just posted a new thread asking how to write stoic and reserve characters if you can look at it for me. I would appreciate it.