Would you give up your freedom if it is for your own good?

[NotaNuffian]

Not doing my work and not going political over here, just imagine the scenario to be a magical, futuristic or even getting mind control via hypnosis if you will.

So a person, perhaps someone you know and trust, comes up to you to tell you about this new awesome product that is totally not MLM. This thing will fully control your body like what Alex Murphy's brain chip does and it will perform best to its task as programmed. Say if you want to be an athlete or a bodybuilder, the thing will then make you partake in training while your mind wanders off to whatever it wants to go. You can stop anytime with a mere thought and cancel or change the goal as you wish. Of course it can't do crazy things like make you fly or turn a quadriplegic into a muay thai fighter (not without an exosuit at least) and if you program it to do art or write a novel, it will just do repetitive work until you agree that the result is what you want.

There are drawbacks of course:
1. You can't uninstall it.
2. A goal that isn't detrimental must be given. If not, the thing will try to make you, the user, into a better version of yourself. Ie, you fat, you get to go a full course of low calorie diet and exercise.

Would you use the thing?

 

[rain-090]

Why wouldn't you if you could stop at any time?

 

[Deleted member 58005]

Sounds a lot like Oracle Paths, where everybody has an A.I, and you can ask the A.I the best possible way to achieve it, and they'll calculate the best possible way to do so.

But yeah, sure. If I could cancel it then sure.

 

[Maldon]

I wouldn't.
Not doing anything by myself would remove all meaning from my actions.

Also this is a great scenario for horror, some foolish guy bought this shady thing that would would contol his body, but follow his orders and make him better, and he could stop with a thought... until it didn't.

 

[LunaSoltaer]

This seems fun. Would it be always "in control" or will it cede control back to you? Cause depending on how it's set up, you could get this little brain AR computer thing while your body's on auto pilot....

Okay I'd totally buy a product that moved my body around and let me basically have a desktop interface. Maybe a wifi chip so I can do things like watch videos and write and procrastinate while my body moved around AFK

 

[Motsu]

What's this? A trip to Mark Suckerburgs' near inventions, or a warped self-fulfillment convention? Nah, man, scenarios like these is dangerous enough to be like defamation. You give up your body for an efficient AI when you can do it yourself. It's like having an egg beater when you can crack it using your hands. To be honest, it's about time people start working what they hate and haven't started, trying to make someone achieve someone's dreams is a funny scenario.

 

[Deleted member 57675]

Not AI....but got reminded of this

 

[Kenjona]

You need a maybe vote. Because it is a maybe for me.

 

[NotaNuffian]

Not AI....but got reminded of this

It does not have a will of its own.

What's this? A trip to Mark Suckerburgs' near inventions, or a warped self-fulfillment convention? Nah, man, scenarios like these is dangerous enough to be like defamation. You give up your body for an efficient AI when you can do it yourself. It's like having an egg beater when you can crack it using your hands. To be honest, it's about time people start working what they hate and haven't started, trying to make someone achieve someone's dreams is a funny scenario.

You are right. The best kind of right.

But I lazy and hence created this lame wish fulfilling thought experiment for the lulz.

DIY is important, just make sure you did your best.

You need a maybe vote. Because it is a maybe for me.

There. I did.

 

[Plantorsomething]

Not doing my work and not going political over here, just imagine the scenario to be a magical, futuristic or even getting mind control via hypnosis if you will.

So a person, perhaps someone you know and trust, comes up to you to tell you about this new awesome product that is totally not MLM. This thing will fully control your body like what Alex Murphy's brain chip does and it will perform best to its task as programmed. Say if you want to be an athlete or a bodybuilder, the thing will then make you partake in training while your mind wanders off to whatever it wants to go. You can stop anytime with a mere thought and cancel or change the goal as you wish. Of course it can't do crazy things like make you fly or turn a quadriplegic into a muay thai fighter (not without an exosuit at least) and if you program it to do art or write a novel, it will just do repetitive work until you agree that the result is what you want.

There are drawbacks of course:
1. You can't uninstall it.
2. A goal that isn't detrimental must be given. If not, the thing will try to make you, the user, into a better version of yourself. Ie, you fat, you get to go a full course of low calorie diet and exercise.

Would you use the thing?

Sounds like it would ruin my life like a sick expensive drug. If you can do all that shit without actually putting in effort, what’s the point of doing anything manually at all? It sounds like my mental state will deteriorate at a very fast rate

 

[greyblob]

> Would you give up your freedom if it is for your own good?

you already did/are doing mate. it's called school

and yes for the second question

 

[Ilikewaterkusa]

Not doing my work and not going political over here, just imagine the scenario to be a magical, futuristic or even getting mind control via hypnosis if you will.

So a person, perhaps someone you know and trust, comes up to you to tell you about this new awesome product that is totally not MLM. This thing will fully control your body like what Alex Murphy's brain chip does and it will perform best to its task as programmed. Say if you want to be an athlete or a bodybuilder, the thing will then make you partake in training while your mind wanders off to whatever it wants to go. You can stop anytime with a mere thought and cancel or change the goal as you wish. Of course it can't do crazy things like make you fly or turn a quadriplegic into a muay thai fighter (not without an exosuit at least) and if you program it to do art or write a novel, it will just do repetitive work until you agree that the result is what you want.

There are drawbacks of course:
1. You can't uninstall it.
2. A goal that isn't detrimental must be given. If not, the thing will try to make you, the user, into a better version of yourself. Ie, you fat, you get to go a full course of low calorie diet and exercise.

Would you use the thing?

Primary every politician I hate

 

[NotaNuffian]

> Would you give up your freedom if it is for your own good?

you already did/are doing mate. it's called school

and yes for the second question

Did. I old.

Also, I can assure you that I left my schools missing tons of would be programmings. Grammar is one of them.

Sounds a lot like Oracle Paths, where everybody has an A.I, and you can ask the A.I the best possible way to achieve it, and they'll calculate the best possible way to do so.

But yeah, sure. If I could cancel it then sure.

Reading Oracle Paths atm, have to say it is not my cup.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

Not doing my work and not going political over here, just imagine the scenario to be a magical, futuristic or even getting mind control via hypnosis if you will.

So a person, perhaps someone you know and trust, comes up to you to tell you about this new awesome product that is totally not MLM. This thing will fully control your body like what Alex Murphy's brain chip does and it will perform best to its task as programmed. Say if you want to be an athlete or a bodybuilder, the thing will then make you partake in training while your mind wanders off to whatever it wants to go. You can stop anytime with a mere thought and cancel or change the goal as you wish. Of course it can't do crazy things like make you fly or turn a quadriplegic into a muay thai fighter (not without an exosuit at least) and if you program it to do art or write a novel, it will just do repetitive work until you agree that the result is what you want.

There are drawbacks of course:
1. You can't uninstall it.
2. A goal that isn't detrimental must be given. If not, the thing will try to make you, the user, into a better version of yourself. Ie, you fat, you get to go a full course of low calorie diet and exercise.

Would you use the thing?

The only piece of technology in mah house is a printer, and I always keep a gun on meh if it behaves weirdly

 

[Viator]

Not a chance. I imagine if this technology were to be released to the public it would naturally take over. I would become a dinosaur of an old era as most people surpass me with ease. However, given human nature, people would never stop using it despite being able to. Being overly reliant on their tools, should a future ever arise where that tool was taken from them, they would be worse than useless. They would forget how to work for themselves.

You already see the phenomena with today's technology. If we were to somehow lose access to computers and the internet, the world would devolve into chaos. Not everyone would perish, but the world would be culled of a lot of people who don't know how to live without technological assistance and can't adapt. I am a believer that we should always strive for a balance between ourselves as humans, and our tools. Otherwise we risk annihilation in the event our tools fail us.

 

[gogo7966]

cyber security is a bitch

 

[Deleted member 57675]

It does not have a will of its own.

Ik. Doesn't have to have a will of its own. But basically letting something control you. You can stop but hard/ impossible in the case where you cannot uninstall. And it'll make you keep coming back to it because without the suit/chip, you feel just subpar. Is it really good for you?

And it all feels good until one lil slip up without a detrimental goal given to it, and you're stuck before you can call it quits.

 

[Psycholor]

Also this is a great scenario for horror, some foolish guy bought this shady thing that would would contol his body, but follow his orders and make him better, and he could stop with a thought... until it didn't.

This is basically the plot of Upgrade, a 2018 Australian Cyberpunk genre film. It was pretty good.

 

[Kenjona]

Alright, I voted maybe. There are some things I would like to "automate" in my life as I know I need to do them, but I find them boring and/or for best effect they also need to be done "perfectly". If I could do that and do other stuff at the same time (Effectively multitasking), I would be interested. However, my paranoia over the potential to lose control of my body and become another's puppet would most definitely cause me enough worry I probably would not allow it.

However, I am technically past my prime, and horror schlock aside, having certain things become automated in my life to improve my health and well being could motivate me to do so. If I felt the system could not be remotely controlled in anyway or hacked remotely, that might be the tipping point to yes, otherwise it would be a strong no.

 

[AKnightWithaKnife]

sounds like globalism!