Why so many gender bender novels

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We can read our gender bender like people eat McDonald's french fries. Personally I don't like gender bender with ketchup. I like my gender bender with some Sriracha, even though it gives me heartburn.
 

Le_ther

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Why what's the appeal I don't get wanting to read one it's just a dude as a girl so it's just a dude what's the point
Or it's a girl into a dude I don't see the point why do you or whoever read that read it please please please explain it to me
I don't really also understand but I think people has uh taken a liking to this type maybe due to their own perspective taste? I don't really know but I guess it's a matter of preference.
 

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So many different reasons and each believes it is the true Gender Bender.

Gender Bender Type #1: “I don’t want to look at a guy’s butt.” The most basic, also sometimes an excuse for the other types. Similar to the “playing a female video game avatar,” except the equivalent of that would just be… just have a female protagonist? This Gender Bender type results from wanting cute girl interactions, but being insecure about being able to write “realistic female characters” when it comes to personality, thoughts and motivations, relationships and sexual desires, etc. So instead you have character with the outward appearance of a girl but the interior thoughts of a guy — and in the simplest ones, the internal self-perception and thought patterns never changes despite being embodied totally differently, as if mind and body are truly separate and Cartesian dualism is real. Also an excuse for girl-on-girl sex scenes, for the same reasons that straight guys watch girl-on-girl porn, I guess.

Gender Bender Type #2: “Fellas, is it gay to smile or like anything? NO ARGH I HATE IT” This type starts by observing that masculinity and expectations of men are really damn screwed up, and unless you ignore a lot of the “how to be an alpha guy / real man / best father” kind of over-the-top stuff, also extremely unhealthy for a man’s mind and life expectancy. Shockingly, many authors are not alpha dudes. However, in wish-fulfillment power fantasies, there’s also an expectation for a male protagonist to be able to beat Goku and Superman while also maintaining a harem and stoically not caring about any of it, etc etc. There are lots of reactions to this, “extremely nice guy hero who’s not always strong” is one of them, but “escape completely from male expectations by turning into a girl” is another one. It’s basically a more socially sophisticated version of #1.

Gender Bender Type #3: “Transformation is interesting experientially, socially… and ok, sexually.” This is the overlap zone with a lot of other transformation-driven fiction (werewolves, some furry stuff, a certain type of vampire fiction, etc) The process of transformation or becoming a very different kind of being is a very old trope in fiction, going back to Greek mythology in Europe and lots of other sources. And these early sources have all sorts of transformations — animals are probably the most common, but also trees, gods, objects, and yes, the other gender. There’s clearly interesting potential for storytelling, even some maybe meaningful stuff about self-discovery and the nature of identity and how we see the world and all of that, but all of these various kinds of transformation also have a fetish / smut version because of course they do. “What would sex be like if you turned into a [fill in the blank]” is an obvious thing that people are curious about, and some people are interested in the process of transformation, how it might mess with your mind, etc. This was true thousands of years ago. Apuleius, who wrote a story 1800 years ago about turning into a donkey, had smutty stuff about being a donkey. Tieresias, the mythological Greek seer who supposedly was around 4000 years ago, got turned into a girl and has been shown gender-bending in paintings and plays and stories ever since; the myths say that everyone wanted to know whether men or women have better orgasms. (Tiresias was like “female orgasm is 10x”).

Gender Bender Type #4: “It’s a way of writing about the trans experience.” Trans authors, regardless of gender, often encounter gender-bender fiction in the process of figuring out they’re trans, and for someone in that position gender-bender fiction is inherently wish fulfillment, or exploring something that might be their wish. So it’s not surprising that trans authors also write gender bender fiction, and the lens of a trans author is also a little more influenced by real life—but a fantastic gender-bender change, whether as an isekai or however, is also often a way less “problematic” way of changing genders, because it’s fantasy, right? It might be instant, or instantly accepted by everyone, or the MC is trans and gets to look exactly the way they always dreamed of, and so on and so forth. A lot of this is trans people writing about the trans experience, which is interesting for readers who are also trans, or trans-curious, figuring themselves out, or just care about trans people’s experience even if they’re not trans. The amount of smut in this category ranges widely from 0 to 100% SMUT, just like for many groups of people, just as there’s GL and BL that’s more or less smutty — but when trans stories are also “gender bender” then the sexual content often has to do with “becoming yourself and becoming comfortable in your body,” since that’s an understandably important part of positive sexual experiences for trans people.

Gender Bender Type #5: “I’m not trans well maybe I am but I can’t think about that, it makes me frustrated and pent-up, I need to read some gender bender stories for release!!” This might not be a distinct type, but it’s definitely a type of reader? There’s a bunch of fiction in category #4 on this site that’s kind of making fun of this kind of motivation by making the MC this kind of person, who has their “egg cracked” and figures out that they actually do want to gender-bend for real.
 

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Personally, I find the comedy that comes with those kinds of novels fun. Also, the idea of doing something naughty as another gender. Like I love Ranma 1/2. I think that show had a lot of fanservice for the most part, but the characters and situations were fun to explore. I remember the episode where Ranma was kissed by a boy in his girl body. Such a unique adventure imo.

Body swaps are the default way to do gender benders, which is even better because then you can have fun with both sides of the fence, which is what I prefer. MtF and FtM!
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The first ever gender bender was Ranma 1/2, which was written by a woman. A woman can definitely not be accused of having autogynophilia herself.
Heinlein published a gender-bender SF novel I Will Fear No Evil in the 1970s, long before Ranma 1/2, and it was hardly a new idea then. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/GenderBender/Literature covers examples back to the 1930s, and examples from antiquity can be found under "Myths and Religion" https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenderBender
 

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For myself as a writer of gender bending narratives primarily, I like to explore the existential possibilities. Often the physical transformation is wrapped up in a variety of internal questions. Who am I, what can I be, what’s important to me, and what are the different sides of me as a person? It presents a lot of different possibilities for character development.
 

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Well, since we're doing this, Let's extend the discussion.

In my Sig is FTS, which is based on The World of Moral Reversal. Basically, sexually everything flips, but everything else stays the same. The only difference is who is horny for who. Nothing else changes. Which if you read the original makes no sense, but the problem is solved in the original by simply ignoring the problem. My version eventually addresses this, but the original is much more light-hearted.

However, below is IWS, where I create a new setting where, because of the setting, females have an inherent leg up on males and thus not only is the entire world have flipped sexual morality, but the results of this also are reflected in the world which changes basically everything, socially.

So, is my story basically a gender bender where instead of flipping the gender of MC, I flip everyone ELSE, or does it not count, because the MC is still his original gender in both?
 

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So many different reasons and each believes it is the true Gender Bender.

Gender Bender Type #1: “I don’t want to look at a guy’s butt.” The most basic, also sometimes an excuse for the other types. Similar to the “playing a female video game avatar,” except the equivalent of that would just be… just have a female protagonist? This Gender Bender type results from wanting cute girl interactions, but being insecure about being able to write “realistic female characters” when it comes to personality, thoughts and motivations, relationships and sexual desires, etc. So instead you have character with the outward appearance of a girl but the interior thoughts of a guy — and in the simplest ones, the internal self-perception and thought patterns never changes despite being embodied totally differently, as if mind and body are truly separate and Cartesian dualism is real. Also an excuse for girl-on-girl sex scenes, for the same reasons that straight guys watch girl-on-girl porn, I guess.

Gender Bender Type #2: “Fellas, is it gay to smile or like anything? NO ARGH I HATE IT” This type starts by observing that masculinity and expectations of men are really damn screwed up, and unless you ignore a lot of the “how to be an alpha guy / real man / best father” kind of over-the-top stuff, also extremely unhealthy for a man’s mind and life expectancy. Shockingly, many authors are not alpha dudes. However, in wish-fulfillment power fantasies, there’s also an expectation for a male protagonist to be able to beat Goku and Superman while also maintaining a harem and stoically not caring about any of it, etc etc. There are lots of reactions to this, “extremely nice guy hero who’s not always strong” is one of them, but “escape completely from male expectations by turning into a girl” is another one. It’s basically a more socially sophisticated version of #1.

Gender Bender Type #3: “Transformation is interesting experientially, socially… and ok, sexually.” This is the overlap zone with a lot of other transformation-driven fiction (werewolves, some furry stuff, a certain type of vampire fiction, etc) The process of transformation or becoming a very different kind of being is a very old trope in fiction, going back to Greek mythology in Europe and lots of other sources. And these early sources have all sorts of transformations — animals are probably the most common, but also trees, gods, objects, and yes, the other gender. There’s clearly interesting potential for storytelling, even some maybe meaningful stuff about self-discovery and the nature of identity and how we see the world and all of that, but all of these various kinds of transformation also have a fetish / smut version because of course they do. “What would sex be like if you turned into a [fill in the blank]” is an obvious thing that people are curious about, and some people are interested in the process of transformation, how it might mess with your mind, etc. This was true thousands of years ago. Apuleius, who wrote a story 1800 years ago about turning into a donkey, had smutty stuff about being a donkey. Tieresias, the mythological Greek seer who supposedly was around 4000 years ago, got turned into a girl and has been shown gender-bending in paintings and plays and stories ever since; the myths say that everyone wanted to know whether men or women have better orgasms. (Tiresias was like “female orgasm is 10x”).

Gender Bender Type #4: “It’s a way of writing about the trans experience.” Trans authors, regardless of gender, often encounter gender-bender fiction in the process of figuring out they’re trans, and for someone in that position gender-bender fiction is inherently wish fulfillment, or exploring something that might be their wish. So it’s not surprising that trans authors also write gender bender fiction, and the lens of a trans author is also a little more influenced by real life—but a fantastic gender-bender change, whether as an isekai or however, is also often a way less “problematic” way of changing genders, because it’s fantasy, right? It might be instant, or instantly accepted by everyone, or the MC is trans and gets to look exactly the way they always dreamed of, and so on and so forth. A lot of this is trans people writing about the trans experience, which is interesting for readers who are also trans, or trans-curious, figuring themselves out, or just care about trans people’s experience even if they’re not trans. The amount of smut in this category ranges widely from 0 to 100% SMUT, just like for many groups of people, just as there’s GL and BL that’s more or less smutty — but when trans stories are also “gender bender” then the sexual content often has to do with “becoming yourself and becoming comfortable in your body,” since that’s an understandably important part of positive sexual experiences for trans people.

Gender Bender Type #5: “I’m not trans well maybe I am but I can’t think about that, it makes me frustrated and pent-up, I need to read some gender bender stories for release!!” This might not be a distinct type, but it’s definitely a type of reader? There’s a bunch of fiction in category #4 on this site that’s kind of making fun of this kind of motivation by making the MC this kind of person, who has their “egg cracked” and figures out that they actually do want to gender-bend for real.
Just wanted to say thank you for giving an in-depth reply instead of going along with the nonsense train of "it has to do with a crazy fetish".

It's always annoying when people look at an interesting genre and write it off as a fetish story.
 

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Why what's the appeal I don't get wanting to read one it's just a dude as a girl so it's just a dude what's the point
Or it's a girl into a dude I don't see the point why do you or whoever read that read it please please please explain it to me
coomers
 

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Some guys will only ever touch pussy if they become a girl. It's all classic wish fulfillment.
 

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Some guys will only ever touch pussy if they become a girl. It's all classic wish fulfillment.
I don't get that. Unless you're in some incredibly repressive country, or really, really poor, there's always the option of paying for the opportunity to touch (or various levels of etc.)

I'm sure plenty of it is wish fulfillment or at least fap material, but that's for having their own, specifically.
 
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