Why do so many people like netori?

[Lysander_Works]

How can people find a true love while stuck online permanently? To find it, they need to put down the netori novel and touch grass.

But how can they? Didn’t you burn the grass?

Who burnt my salad?!

 

[Deleted member 167438]

NTR is the trash fetish.

Then I am the trash man ?

 

[AncestorDuck]

Then I am the trash man ?

Yes, you are :) But dont worry, society needs trash to highlight the other losers.

 

[TheAmaraine]

This thread led me to think about POV choices.

Usually, when I start to write a story and realize that the character to whom the story matters most is not the person whose POV I'm using, I wanted to rewrite the story. That might involve using multiple POV, or it might mean changing my POV entirely. But in a story about cheating or sharing, netori or netorare or whatever, the outsider is usually the person who has the *least* at stake, so when I've tried writing those kinds of stories from the "bulls" POV, I've usually rewritten them... changing netori to netorare -- or more often, making them about the woman's experience.

My experience comes mostly from writing short stories or novellas, not web serials, so I think that makes a difference.

I'm curious about the netori writers' perspective -- is there some emotional charge there that makes the outsider more interesting to right from? Or is it just safer to experience all the emotions involved in the triangle from a safer distance, much in the way a detective story usually spares us the POV of the victim or the murderer? Is womanizing the point, and the fact that it's someone's wife a way to turn it up a notch, because it's forbidden or more difficult?

 

[Hsinat]

What is NTR?

I have never heard of that term before, until today.

 

[DireBadger]

What is NTR?

I have never heard of that term before, until today.

It's cuckold fic. basically, the dude takes away someone else's chick. Gamma wish fulfillment, like slave harem or Jerry Stu, but with a fancy Japanese title so it doesn't sound so sleazy.

Basically, it's like 'isekai' instead of 'portal fantasy'. It's a weeb thing.

 

[Hsinat]

It's cuckold fic. basically, the dude takes away someone else's chick. Gamma wish fulfillment, like slave harem or Jerry Stu, but with a fancy Japanese title so it doesn't sound so sleazy.

Basically, it's like 'isekai' instead of 'portal fantasy'. It's a weeb thing.

Who tf invented that?

 

[DireBadger]

Who tf invented that?

Paris of Troy?

 

[Hsinat]

Paris of Troy?

.......................................................................

 

[MXDestroyer1189]

netori is you stealing a loser's love interest or wife.
its definitely much better than netorare and netorase unless you're into that...

 

[Corty]

Anybody liking NTR or anything adjacent belongs on a cross.

 

[DireBadger]

You know, I love the 'professional bad guy' genre. Heck, the ex-supervillain starts that way (although he quickly veers off course)
You know, the stunt actor who plays a supervillain and gets paid to do it so that the new generations of heroes look amazing for 'foiling their evil scheme', or the criminal who's job is to throw the town guard the occasional bone so they ignore the real villains who are careful enough not to get caught.

I would like to see a bit of Netori-themed, sort of like Megamind. The bad guy regularly captures the good guy's woman, until she eventually falls for him, and the story is based around the REAL hate and complexity drama that results from Lois Lane falling for Lex Luthor AFTER she marries Clark Kent. The hero has to struggle with being a good guy or wanting to torture and kill the rat that stole his woman, especially if the cucked sucker really IS a hero. Kind of like falling in love with a woman if you are catholic and she decides she has to become a nun. You hate her decision, but you CANNOT hate her decision without breaking faith.

That would be a fun story. Especially if, by every metric, the cucked hero is a genuinely better or more powerful person than the faux villain, but giving in to his rage would make him a monster. But, technically, the bad guy isn't really a bad guy.


Ooh! Here's a plot twist: the REAL bad guy is the Lois Lane type, whose goal is to destroy both the hero and the guy that makes heroes look good. Crap. Now I have to write this, don't I?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

You know, the stunt actor who plays a supervillain and gets paid to do it so that the new generations of heroes look amazing for 'foiling their evil scheme', or the criminal who's job is to throw the town guard the occasional bone so they ignore the real villains who are careful enough not to get caught.

You ever read the original comic book series The Tick? Ben Edlund created a company that hires out a supervillain (the same "brick" with different themed costumes - Whirling Dervish, The Red Scare, etc.) to help superheroes make their debut (and Running Guy - who is "as fast as ten fast men!" hires him, only to have his "reign of terror to destroy the Dewey Decimal System" start out when The Tick is walking by)...

I would like to see a bit of Netori-themed, sort of like Megamind. The bad guy regularly captures the good guy's woman, until she eventually falls for him, and the story is based around the REAL hate and complexity drama that results from Lois Lane falling for Lex Luthor AFTER she marries Clark Kent. The hero has to struggle with being a good guy or wanting to torture and kill the rat that stole his woman, especially if the cucked sucker really IS a hero. Kind of like falling in love with a woman if you are catholic and she decides she has to become a nun. You hate her decision, but you CANNOT hate her decision without breaking faith.

That could be kind of fun (though, in a sense it's the Launcelot/King Arthur story with a darker twist).

Ooh! Here's a plot twist: the REAL bad guy is the Lois Lane type, whose goal is to destroy both the hero and the guy that makes heroes look good. Crap. Now I have to write this, don't I?

Yes, you probably do now...

 

[DireBadger]

Yes, you probably do now...

The problem is, it would be my sixth 'misunderstood bad guy' book in a row. They call me the Alchemyst, memoirs of a mid-level mook, ex-supervillain, sentenced to Paradise, Dead guys finish last... I am starting to sense a theme.

Then again, being known for writing a particular theme might not necessarily be a bad thing.