When rating something do you see a 5/10 as average or failing?

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ElijahRyne

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Personally I think the average is a 5/10, like string cheese. Not bad, but not good. A 4.9-4 is below average, like 3d Beserk. Above average is 5.1-6, like Terror in Resonance. I think you get the picture. Where this method shines is when you get to stuff from 8-10. Normally people use 7/10 as average, but that means that it is harder to rank good, great, brilliant, and near perfect in comparison.

But that is just me, how bout you?
 

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5 is average, but more in the sense of "Average that a person could produce". Like, if I went to a random person and had them tell me a 'good' story, I'd expect a 5/10 story about a hiking trip to Europe they took in college. If I'm actively seeking to read something entertaining, then 5/10 just doesn't cut it. I expect an 8 minimum depending on the genre.

When someone is looking to use a service or buy a product, the "Average" of what a person could produce doesn't cut it unless they're on a strict budget, or simply don't have access to someone skilled. I wouldn't re-use the services of a company that does work that I believe I could do myself with a few hours of learning.

As for how to distinguish great works from masterpieces? That's almost entirely subjective. It has to do with emotional and cognitive agreement and resonance with each particular reader. The difference between an 8.5 and a 9.5 in aggregate rating is usually just how many people resonate with the story enough to give it a maximum rating vs the total population willing to give it a shot. Once you hit a certain tipping point, the number is actually meaningless for gauging your own skill as an author, and has a lot more to do with statistics and audience appeal. I'd personally even argue that some stories that are rated 4/5 stars are literarily better than their 4.8 star counterparts that play to a lower common denominator.
 

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People have built the perception that if a story isn't perfect, it's somehow, drowning in sewer water. What's important to me is the either the substance of the content or the overall message an author wants to get across with their setting/plot. Ratings mean nothing to me anymore. It's dumb but exposure and views should be a more a thing you should be worried about. If no one is reading it, you're doing something wrong.

Reviews on the other hand, is to be taken very seriously, if there are some serious flaws in your story, there's nothing a stealthy rewrite can't fix
 

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Average. I paid for the whole rating scale, so I'm gonna use the whole rating scale
 

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Although 5/10 is average, I have seen many people refuse to read stuff below a 7/10 or 3/5 because to them, that is the standard they expect. If it isn't considered above average, then I would say many people consider 5/10 to be the standard for good literature with anything above it being worth reading.

I disagree with this personally as many books considered below 5/10 just haven't been given enough of a chance or lack the proper readerbase.
 

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I always compare all ballpark systems to a five point scale. There 5 is excellent, 4 is good, 3 is average or fair, and 2 is bad. There's no such thing as a 2.5.
But with a score of 10 in several categories, a 7 usually implies some flaws that should have been worked on. Accordingly, a lower score is worse, but a 7 is not an average score. And 8 or 9 is an achievable but possible limit. There's no such thing as perfect.
That is, I would not be satisfied with an average score 5 or 6 of my work. It means a lot of shortcomings and failing. Any lower than that is a negative reaction.
Perhaps 7 is an average grade among the positive ones.
 
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The "stars" rating system is not an objective way to measure the quality of the story, or product, it is a marketing tool to manipulate the consumers into buying by implying the expensive products are worth the extra cost because of supposed quality. It is never objective, it always leads to manipulations, and should be either ignored or completely abandoned.

While 2.5 star out of 5, or 5/10 (same thing, 10 point scale) is average from the purely mathematical standpoint, it's a middle value, it is already total failure from the marketing perspective it is used for.

In some cases, you have a complex algorithm that actively pushed down and hides the story under the certain threshold, like the Royal Road, where anything under the 4.5 star is on the way out, and anything below 4 is total failure. System is simply set up this way to sell the certain story, certain products in case of their Amazon's sugar daddy, and it doesn't care for the logical / mathematical standpoint. 3 stars on the 0.5 to 5 scale is actually above average already, but the system doesn't see it this way, even 4 is not enough.

In other cases, you have simply average the Scribble Hub uses; it isn't as unfair considering there doesn't seem a additional mechanism for hiding the stories the Amazon's Royal Road has, but damage was already done. Effect is psychological and many readers would unconsciously not read the story under the 4.5 threshold simply believing they are bad regardless of the objective quality, entirely forgetting that with one rating of 0.5 and one rating of 5, the average is 2.75 because they are not the mood or math and fixate on what the people designing this wanted. Highest values only, usually above 4.5.

Not to mention this system absolutely ruins the community, since not only people are naturally drawn to higher numbers which do not correspond to higher quality, all of them would try to game the system.

No one rates the stories on the objective scale of 1 to 5, or 1 to 10, they rate it on relative scale i.e. how much damage they want to do the story so the final value fits their worldview.

If you have a story that one person liked, and have only one rating, the second user who thinks your story is kinda average will not rate it 3 (or whatever the average value is), he will rate it lowest possible to inflict highest damage to balance the final score, and in the process, destroy the chance that the final rating would be objective, all because of human psychology.
 

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No one rates the stories on the objective scale of 1 to 5, or 1 to 10, they rate it on relative scale i.e. how much damage they want to do the story so the final value fits their worldview.

If you have a story that one person liked, and have only one rating, the second user who thinks your story is kinda average will not rate it 3 (or whatever the average value is), he will rate it lowest possible to inflict highest damage to balance the final score, and in the process, destroy the chance that the final rating would be objective, all because of human psychology.

Yes, toxic readers gamify the system further by using alt account. In RR, bad ratings often comes in pairs.

So, not one 0.5 star, but two 0.5 stars. because they don't give ratings, they want you to fail hard and fast. because somehow, reading a random free novel that they dislike (because of mismatched genre) is a grave-grave mistake on the author's part. so much fun!
 
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