Editing What rule-based grammar tool do you use?

ShakiraXY

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I'm looking for a grammar tool, but most of the ones I've found use AI(LLMs), which either introduces new grammar errors or strips away your writing style. I'm trying to find one that suits my needs. If you use any, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your recommendations with me.
 
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I don't think there are anymore rule based editors I.think most now use AI. The best you can do is comb through and make the changes yourself
 

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All grammar checkers are "AI"

They were "AI" long before the creation of ChatGPT or the Stable Diffusion, or whatever the other service calls themselves "AI".

The word "AI" turned into a buzzword these days, it doesn't mean anything. It used to mean something, originally, but since it was used constantly and out of context, especially by the largely ignorant marketing departments, any meaning the word originally had was lost. Now it is just "electronic stuff". My coffeemaker is "AI". It doesn't have any functions, other than turning on, heat water, and how much, but it is "AI" because there is a printed circuit inside.

If you want anything that isn't called "AI" these days, find yourself a proof-reader or editor, i.e. an extra pair of eyes (preferably someone whose first language is English if your isn't) and have them check everything ...

And if not?

Try Pro Writing Aid. It's called AI because well .... it's like my coffeemaker ...

Unlike Grammarly, however, the Pro Writing Aid creators at least assumed that someone is going to use it for creative writing and doesn't too overtly turn everything into the corporate speech.
 

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I use Grammarly and ignore most of its suggestions.

The decision on Grammarly vs ProWriting Aid: I could install Grammarly in just my browser and it only affects my browser. ProWriting Aid wanted to run as a separate program that wanted to look at *every* text field, which sometimes screwed with other programs.

I'm using Libre Office, so Word plugins do not help me. And I like doing my first draft without that much interference anyway, just the normal spell checker.

I last checked out PWA over a year ago, so my information may be dated.
 

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Memories of having to read "Strunck and White: The Elements of Style" for a project back in '88-'89 (and brushing up on it twice since)
 

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I'm looking for a grammar tool, but most of the ones I've found use AI(LLMs), which either introduces new grammar errors or strips away your writing style. I'm trying to find one that suits my needs. If you use any, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share your recommendations with me.
I used Grammarly for the longest time. Up to a week or so ago when I switched to ProWritingAid.
And the reason was simple. I use GoogleDocs for writing. And Grammarly stopped working on them.
There had always been bugs with Grammarly. But it became almost impossible to use at one point with their servers constantly hiccuping or going down entirely.
And when I went to complain about it, their support suggested me disabling every other addon. WHY? Just fix you shit! The worst part is that it didn't even help! Their extension is just screwed.

Overall, ProWritingAid has been slower, more cluttered but better alternative when it comes to pointing out mistakes.
 

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Whatever tool you use, it's important to keep its intended use in mind. E.g. Word's grammar and style suggestions are more aligned with corporate writing than fiction, so they'll want to make your writing sound more like a terse report than poetry.

Depending on how serious you want to get, a human editor is also an option, though they don't work for free. The advantage of humans is that they understand things like context and intent, and they can give you other developmental insights about what works and what doesn't.
 

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Depending on how serious you want to get, a human editor is also an option, though they don't work for free. The advantage of humans is that they understand things like context and intent, and they can give you other developmental insights about what works and what doesn't.
Well, some of us do work for free (or credit)... but you often get exactly what you pay for then... :biggrin_s:
 
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