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A degree that shows you know how to read religious texts without ticking off the instructors (too much).
What is Divinity?
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Tch, too slow.
Technically, I guess I have the Rukh - Angel - God thing going.
Spirit based
With a significant investment, usually by multiple 'priests', it's possible to instead create an Angel; a construct that will attempt to fulfill the desires that formed it with some minor self-determination, and that can be 'refueled' instead of simply dispersing like rukh.
A God is created by a massive and/or steady outflow of rukh that mixes together and creates a sapient construct that acts according to the desires that formed it. Very simple War God does War stuff. Gods also have an easier time creating angels since their desires are... Purer, shall we say.
Oh, dungeons become an 'honorary deity' at a certain point in their life cycle. In some ways, they're more divine than actual gods, after all.
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From the official cosmology of Pyrroth,
In the beginning was the Maelstrom of All Possibility, where Creation and Destruction struggled in an endless stalemate until Creation took a segment of Destruction and created the concept of mortality. In rage, Destruction also Created something of its own, and this momentary lull in the Everwar birthed all things.
Unable to tend to all of new "offspring," the two Original Powers siphoned off elements of their existence and gave them sentience, and thus were born the Principles - two Principles of Good, one of Balance and one of Evil. Each of these principles possessed aspects of both Creation and Destruction within themselves, and all but Jaagrath, the Principle of Evil, realized that managing the growing multiverse was beyond their abilities, so they separated themselves into the various gods.
At first, the gods resumed the Everwar, but they realized this would always lead to a stalemate, so they began creating lesser agents, and introduced the concept of 'mortality' to the multiverse.
On rare occasion, one of the gods ceases to be relevant and becomes a mortal; on even rarer occasions, a specific mortal so impresses the gods that they make it one of their own instead of letting it pass on.
In the beginning was the Maelstrom of All Possibility, where Creation and Destruction struggled in an endless stalemate until Creation took a segment of Destruction and created the concept of mortality. In rage, Destruction also Created something of its own, and this momentary lull in the Everwar birthed all things.
Unable to tend to all of new "offspring," the two Original Powers siphoned off elements of their existence and gave them sentience, and thus were born the Principles - two Principles of Good, one of Balance and one of Evil. Each of these principles possessed aspects of both Creation and Destruction within themselves, and all but Jaagrath, the Principle of Evil, realized that managing the growing multiverse was beyond their abilities, so they separated themselves into the various gods.
At first, the gods resumed the Everwar, but they realized this would always lead to a stalemate, so they began creating lesser agents, and introduced the concept of 'mortality' to the multiverse.
On rare occasion, one of the gods ceases to be relevant and becomes a mortal; on even rarer occasions, a specific mortal so impresses the gods that they make it one of their own instead of letting it pass on.
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One could say divinity is the act of being detached or exceeds balance, the balance being humans, us who are both earthly, we sin, we possess desires, and we are capable of great virtues as well. Divinity is more akin to a spectrum, as in, the divine always embodies one or multiple traits we humans possess and pushes them to the upper limit, something balance or being human cannot sustain, thus transcending and no longer being in balance.
They could represent sin or virtue, concepts or matter, but they are all things we humans can think of OR partially fathom (like omniscience or even the concept of being unfathomable which we humans understand that we do not understand), all traits we humans are capable of imagining and dreaming and perhaps divinity represents our traits, be it sinful or virtuous being taken to the extreme and thus naturally resulting in some sort of power that derives off of that trait.
You could say divinity is a human fantasy, a projection of a few or one of our traits or imagination taken to the extreme, and fully realised in all fields of that concept, and reaching such a point where one exceeds what we can even imagine, is when they truly reach divinity, thus detached from humanity. Since at that point, such things surpass our imagination and the limits of human perception, we may call it divine, or even godly, as humanity in such a thing is far from recognisable.
Though, as Varys said in A Storm of Swords by George R.R Martin,
"Power lies where people believe it lies; it's all a trick, a shadow on the wall" When that lie or illusion is shared by all, like in the case of divinity, it becomes something we believe to be real, or manifests.
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Much that is relevant has already been said here, but the formulations have been vague. One can look at this from a psychological perspective. For example, it is a quality attributed to higher powers, as well as ideals to which people may aspire. It is also presented as transcendent or immanent: being above the material world or being within it.
Thus, divinity is a concept that reflects humanity's deepest conceptions of ultimate reality, the meaning of existence, and its place in the universe. It can be perceived as a personal God, an impersonal absolute, a pantheon of deities, or an inner potential inherent in every human being.
There are many examples of how this can be presented.
Thus, divinity is a concept that reflects humanity's deepest conceptions of ultimate reality, the meaning of existence, and its place in the universe. It can be perceived as a personal God, an impersonal absolute, a pantheon of deities, or an inner potential inherent in every human being.
There are many examples of how this can be presented.
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Divinity
Classification: Characteristic/ Property of an entity
What it does: It is the denomination of hierarchy within the belief system. A being with greater divinity stands on a higher rank in the belief of everyone. This being, therefore, is less susceptible against the damage caused by those lower in ranks. In short, a being at the helm of divinity takes lesser and lesser damage against attacks of those ranks further below. It also works the other way. Damage caused by those in higher ranks deals more damage against those of lower and lower ranks.
Note: damage is defined as an effect that will harm the properties of a being. For divinity to work, in addition to being considered damage, the being who caused the damage must also have the intention to harm. Having intention to harm means the actions can be regard as direct or indirect such as causing sth to explode in hope that the explosion will harm those in the vicinity.
Restriction: Divinity has no effect on those who isn't part of the belief. The true gods or semi-gods who are so powerful that they warps reality around them merely by existing can neutralise the effect of Divinity as well as any effects of other properties.
Classification: Characteristic/ Property of an entity
What it does: It is the denomination of hierarchy within the belief system. A being with greater divinity stands on a higher rank in the belief of everyone. This being, therefore, is less susceptible against the damage caused by those lower in ranks. In short, a being at the helm of divinity takes lesser and lesser damage against attacks of those ranks further below. It also works the other way. Damage caused by those in higher ranks deals more damage against those of lower and lower ranks.
Note: damage is defined as an effect that will harm the properties of a being. For divinity to work, in addition to being considered damage, the being who caused the damage must also have the intention to harm. Having intention to harm means the actions can be regard as direct or indirect such as causing sth to explode in hope that the explosion will harm those in the vicinity.
Restriction: Divinity has no effect on those who isn't part of the belief. The true gods or semi-gods who are so powerful that they warps reality around them merely by existing can neutralise the effect of Divinity as well as any effects of other properties.
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Original sin 2...(haha, please laugh at my rehashing of this joke)It's the Original Sin.
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A cat would say that
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But wouldn't that just be an unoriginal sin?
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Larian didn't think so.
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[For my fictional works...]
There are many aspects of divinity, but in the end, it is the ultimate expression of life, will, and creation.
Divine power is what enables sufficiently powerful deities to step into the eternal chaos-void that exists outside of and between all universes and realities, and enables a divinity to call forth a new reality.
If the powers of true creation are beyond you, then you are not a god. Will and divine power alone can make things *be*. Not called forth, nor conjured temporarily. There is no dispelling or unsummoning an object or creature made with divine power. Which is not to say that the ability to truly create makes one a god; there is more than one way to create. But no other process creates so readily, smoothly, and easily. It is a power that wants to create.
It is also what harmonizes gods and mortals and allows priests and champions to achieve power through faith and will.
Note: mortals can be 'immortal', but still be of mortal-kind.
Divinity can do all things that any other power can do. The abilities of a god can be roughly described in terms of mana or qi or cultivation or what have you, but they are never so limited or restricted as such descriptions might imply. It is true that a deity of ice and winter might not like creating fire, and might preferentially grant magic invoking the power of the cold and the dark, but there is nothing preventing it from creating fire magic if the god decides that it is the most useful thing right now.
The only restrictions of divine power are manifestations that could be considered holy or unholy.
Holy is the ultimate expression of benign intention and desires, and can only be manifested through divinities that care enough about others that they are always striving to improve the lives of mortals and give them the tools to grow beyond their current limitations.
Unholy is the ultimate expression of malignancy; the desire claim everything for oneself and the willingness to destroy all that can not be claimed. Unholy power does not require a directly divine source; its nature is to corrupt and claim, and thus is wielded by demons and devils, once mortal souls that were banished from the rest of reality because their malignancy and corruption became too great for a path forward to be found.
Many gods do not readily express their divinity in the forms of Holy or Unholy, especially if their focus is upon aspects of reality, such as elemental lords.
Perhaps ironically, the torture that fiends inflict on each other and themselves can sometimes create a fiend with just enough of the least-corrupt parts of other souls, and just enough insight to see the futility of their current path, that the fiend finds a path toward redemption and enlightenment. But for a fiend to rise is a hard and difficult path, and it is generally unwise for a mortal to make an attempt to guide a fiend onto that path, for many demons and devils are quite willing to play the part in order to lure mortals to their doom.
If one does encounter such a fiend, it is best to call upon one's deity for intercession. This is a matter that most gods are interested in, for it is the salvation of a soul, and every soul is important.
There are many aspects of divinity, but in the end, it is the ultimate expression of life, will, and creation.
Divine power is what enables sufficiently powerful deities to step into the eternal chaos-void that exists outside of and between all universes and realities, and enables a divinity to call forth a new reality.
If the powers of true creation are beyond you, then you are not a god. Will and divine power alone can make things *be*. Not called forth, nor conjured temporarily. There is no dispelling or unsummoning an object or creature made with divine power. Which is not to say that the ability to truly create makes one a god; there is more than one way to create. But no other process creates so readily, smoothly, and easily. It is a power that wants to create.
It is also what harmonizes gods and mortals and allows priests and champions to achieve power through faith and will.
Note: mortals can be 'immortal', but still be of mortal-kind.
Divinity can do all things that any other power can do. The abilities of a god can be roughly described in terms of mana or qi or cultivation or what have you, but they are never so limited or restricted as such descriptions might imply. It is true that a deity of ice and winter might not like creating fire, and might preferentially grant magic invoking the power of the cold and the dark, but there is nothing preventing it from creating fire magic if the god decides that it is the most useful thing right now.
The only restrictions of divine power are manifestations that could be considered holy or unholy.
Holy is the ultimate expression of benign intention and desires, and can only be manifested through divinities that care enough about others that they are always striving to improve the lives of mortals and give them the tools to grow beyond their current limitations.
Unholy is the ultimate expression of malignancy; the desire claim everything for oneself and the willingness to destroy all that can not be claimed. Unholy power does not require a directly divine source; its nature is to corrupt and claim, and thus is wielded by demons and devils, once mortal souls that were banished from the rest of reality because their malignancy and corruption became too great for a path forward to be found.
Many gods do not readily express their divinity in the forms of Holy or Unholy, especially if their focus is upon aspects of reality, such as elemental lords.
Perhaps ironically, the torture that fiends inflict on each other and themselves can sometimes create a fiend with just enough of the least-corrupt parts of other souls, and just enough insight to see the futility of their current path, that the fiend finds a path toward redemption and enlightenment. But for a fiend to rise is a hard and difficult path, and it is generally unwise for a mortal to make an attempt to guide a fiend onto that path, for many demons and devils are quite willing to play the part in order to lure mortals to their doom.
If one does encounter such a fiend, it is best to call upon one's deity for intercession. This is a matter that most gods are interested in, for it is the salvation of a soul, and every soul is important.