What do you think about writing not to be popular but to be remembered (eternal)?

Eldoria

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In a digital age that demands instant consumption, writing stories for popularity has become the norm. Chasing trends has become a tradition. The number of views, favorites, and readers/followers seems to be the measure of writing success. In this world of writing, market research and tailoring stories to the market in order to gain support from a broad audience are strategic moves. All of this leads to one premise: "writing for popularity."

However, in a world that chases popularity, there are a handful of people who continue to write even though there are few readers or no reader. For them, writing is not for popularity; they write because it makes them feel 'alive' and their writing is a vessel to show that they once existed in the world. Perhaps their writing is not read now, but who knows, their writing might be read in the future; even if it is not read, their writing is a legacy of their history. All of this leads to one premise: "writing to exist/to be eternal."

Throughout history, we have witnessed people like this writing in silence, their writing becoming controversial and challenging the market, but often in the future, their writing becomes a reference. One of them is Elie Wiesel.

He was a Holocaust survivor. His first book, Night (1956), is a short but poignant memoir about the horrific history of the Holocaust genocide. His initial manuscript was rejected numerous times for being too dark and "unmarketable." But Wiesel didn't change it for the sake of the market. He wasn't writing for readers; he was writing for historical truth. He even said:

"I don't write to be read today. I write so that someone, perhaps in the future, will know that this happened."

Despite being recognised and winning the Nobel Peace Prize (1986), Wiesel never sought fame. He shied away from exploiting suffering. He did not sell trauma to the market. He said:

“I have tried to keep memory alive, that sacred memory... I did not want it to become literature. I wanted it to remain a scream.”

His writing is a scream in the form of words. A scream written not for praise, but to awaken the conscience of humanity.

Wiesel may be just one writer who opposes writing for popularity and instead writes for eternity—to be remembered in the future. And perhaps 'other Wiesels' share this view. The question is:

What do you think about writing not to be popular but to be remembered (eternal)?


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Many readers have misunderstood the essence of my article. I will clarify this understanding so that it is not misdirected:
  1. Eternal here means remaining alive in the memory of a collective wound that must not be forgotten. Not to be known by all (not to be popular across time), but so that silenced voices can live on, even in silence. Even if it only touches one fragile soul in the future.
  2. My fictions are not written to be famous, but so that the cries of those once unheard remain alive in this world. If one person hears them and is saved, then that is enough.
  3. I realise that a work of fiction like this may not be widely known and may be forgotten by the larger world. But I write for the small world left behind, those who have lost their voices, their bodies, and their homes.
  4. I quote Elie not because he won a Nobel Prize, but because he said, “I don’t want my work to be literature. I want it to remain a scream.” That is also why I write, not to be beautiful, but to keep bleeding. If you doubt my statement, you can examine my works of fiction to see if they truly contain the screams of collective pain or are merely aesthetic melodramas.
  5. This article is not a writing guide, not a tutorial on becoming famous, not a motivation for success as a writer. This is the existential manifesto of a writer who refuses to forget humanity's collective pain and refuses to be forced to write for the market.
  6. I have never rejected the idea of popularity. On the contrary, if popularity can evoke collective pain for remembrance, then that's fine. What I reject is the market becoming a 'sacred guideline' for writing. If the market loves 'rape,' should we write about rape to satisfy the market? Even if rape is a tragedy that needs to be written for a tragic narrative, aren't there always elegant ways to write that avoid the male gaze, trauma porn, and sadism and remain empathetic toward the victims? Writers should have narrative integrity and not become slaves to the market.
  7. Popularity can make you known. But an honest cry, even if only heard by one soul, can make you remembered by a wound that refuses to die. And a wound that lives on... far more eternal than trending.
  8. Closing: I apologise if my thread has hurt your feelings. This thread is intended as a space for discussion, not judgment, because full awareness comes from voices that are willing to listen.
 
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Anyone writing on a webnovel website does not have the skill to pull this off. Frankly, writing to be "remembered" on a webnovel website is a silly pursuit.
A lot of budding authors write experimental, usually poorly written works that are completely unsuitable for webnovel audiences. They tell themselves they are writing for themselves; why try and appease readers?
Then they get no readers and no followers. Rather than accept that A: they are a poor writer and need to improve or B: webnovel readers have expected genres and themes and diverging from them will not gain them much viewership, they blame philistines for not liking their work.
There is room to be creative, but it must be within the expected genres and themes.
 

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I am writing off market, and so far, am spending significantly more money on my books than I earn.

Would I love to be able to live off my writing? Yes. Do I expect to be capable of? No.

So what I write speaks to me and a few hundred of people. And I am perhaps influencing them, or making them feel seen. Or feel things.

And that's all I could ever ask.
 

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In a digital age that demands instant consumption, writing stories for popularity has become the norm. Chasing trends has become a tradition. The number of views, favorites, and readers/followers seems to be the measure of writing success. In this world of writing, market research and tailoring stories to the market in order to gain support from a broad audience are strategic moves. All of this leads to one premise: "writing for popularity."

However, in a world that chases popularity, there are a handful of people who continue to write even though there are few readers or no reader. For them, writing is not for popularity; they write because it makes them feel 'alive' and their writing is a vessel to show that they once existed in the world. Perhaps their writing is not read now, but who knows, their writing might be read in the future; even if it is not read, their writing is a legacy of their history. All of this leads to one premise: "writing to exist/to be eternal."

Throughout history, we have witnessed people like this writing in silence, their writing becoming controversial and challenging the market, but often in the future, their writing becomes a reference. One of them is Elie Wiesel.

He was a Holocaust survivor. His first book, Night (1956), is a short but poignant memoir about the horrific history of the Holocaust genocide. His initial manuscript was rejected numerous times for being too dark and "unmarketable." But Wiesel didn't change it for the sake of the market. He wasn't writing for readers; he was writing for historical truth. He even said:

"I don't write to be read today. I write so that someone, perhaps in the future, will know that this happened."

Despite being recognized and winning the Nobel Peace Prize (1986), Wiesel never sought fame. He shied away from exploiting suffering. He did not sell trauma for the market. He said:

“I have tried to keep memory alive, that sacred memory... I did not want it to become literature. I wanted it to remain a scream.”

His writing is a scream in the form of words. A scream written not for praise, but to awaken the conscience of humanity.

Wiesel may be just one writer who opposes writing for popularity and instead writes for eternity—to be remembered in the future. And perhaps 'other Wiesels' share this view. The question is:

What do you think about writing not to be popular but to be remembered (eternal)?
Tis my former goal in writing. But after my experiences when I took it seriously for six years, I realized I'd better be forgotten.
 

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When others who have no ambitions see you being ambitious, they will automatically hate you for it.
Alright then… I’ll deal with it. But I’d rather be honest.
Still, I don’t really understand. Why?
For example, I love painting and I’m pretty good at it.
But I don’t have ambition in that field. Some of my friends do, and I don’t hate them for it. I admire them.
 

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Alright then… I’ll deal with it. But I’d rather be honest.
Still, I don’t really understand. Why?
For example, I love painting and I’m pretty good at it.
But I don’t have ambition in that field. Some of my friends do, and I don’t hate them for it. I admire them.
That's a good mindset. However, lotsa peeps hate 'ambitious' individuals mainly because the latter's focus on their goals often rubs off wrong to the former. It's always easy to misunderstand being ambitious as 'boastful', 'proud' and/or 'arrogant' because focusing on ambitions will require you not to listen to naysayers and doomers.

Basically, ignoring people who claims to know what they are saying. Well, tis possible that they are...but see, 'pursuing ambitions' also requires a bit of unhinged on the side of the ambitious.

We prolly would have plane technology a bit later, had the Wright brothers listened to 'common sense'.
 
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That's a good mindset. However, lotsa peeps hate 'ambitious' individuals mainly because the latter's focus on their goals often rubs off wrong to the former. It's always easy to misunderstand being ambitious as 'boastful', 'proud' and/or 'arrogant' because focusing on ambitions will require you not to listen to naysayers and doomers.

Basically, ignoring people who claims to know what they are saying. Well, tis possible that they are...but see, 'pursuing ambitions' also requires a bit of unhinged on the side of the ambitious.

We prolly would have plane technology a bit later, had the Wright brothers listened to 'common sense'.
Boasting, pride, and arrogance are highly subjective feelings. They often have little to do with objective reality. It’s sad that both sides can end up suffering because of it.
Observer and object.
 

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Boasting, pride, and arrogance are highly subjective feelings. They often have little to do with objective reality. It’s sad that both sides can end up suffering because of it.
Observer and object.
True. This is why I adopted a policy of laissez-faire; you exist, I exist. Just don't push my boundaries, and we're good.
 

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It would be nice but I won't KNOW if I do, since I'm not immortal, so it doesn't really matter. As long as I can entertain a few souls (including myself) it's all good, no matter how long that entertainment lasts.
 

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I understand the psychology behind it, but I don’t understand the deeper reasons.
You'll have to look behind the person and his/her actions, and examine his/her background (nature/nurture) to fully grasp the 'deeper reasons' behind the 'hate' for ambitious people.

There's no 'single' answer to this; people are complicated.
 

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I used to think people were complicated. I don’t think that anymore.
No probs with that view. I also deal with people everyday; students, co-workers and others. Understanding everyone's view can be tricky and complicated.
 

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No probs with that view. I also deal with people everyday; students, co-workers and others. Understanding everyone's view can be tricky and complicated.
Yeah. It’s hard when you don’t know what drives them.
But if you do, they’re transparent. The real challenge is figuring out the motivation.
 

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I think you need to think about the scope of the goal. Remembered eternal is quiet a grand ambition but how great of a story do you have to write to have that done? So the book you mentioned how well is it remembered? If you were to walk out on the street and ask someone about the book would they know what book you are talking about? Even with it receiving the Nobel prize was it really popular enough to be considered "remembered eternal?"

Does it stand on the same stage as the lliad or the Lord of the Rings? I'd would say that work will only be remembered as long as the literature community deems it to be and even this it will only be a small footnote. Also considering the subject material for the book it may one day be overshadow by an even greater evil that humanity will commit. World War 1 was called the Great War but now its not even talked about.

Kind of getting off point there. But to end I think that if you write only to be remembered you will fail. In the quote you used, "I did not want it to become literature. I wanted it to remain a scream." There are plenty of books on the Holocaust. So many first hand accounts and journals. But what was it that made his work stand out? What was it that gave him the prize? Was it that he wrote one of many books detailing such a terrible moment in history or that he "screamed" out his emotions in it.
 
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