What do you think about Stoicisms?

[Deleted member 84247]

 

[Daitengu]

Huh?

The ancient version of Stoicism is about training yourself to feel good about being virtuous, while accepting reality and instead of out bursting, try to resolve the problem. A kind of keep a cool head now so you can find solutions ,there's plenty of time to break down later when you're safe.

Modern Stoicism is more like being a doormat or emotionless machine than about any kind of emotion control or seeking to resolve the heart of the problems.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

The ancient version of Stoicism is about training yourself to feel good about being virtuous, while accepting reality and instead of out bursting, try to resolve the problem. A kind of keep a cool head now so you can find solutions ,there's plenty of time to break down later when you're safe.

Modern Stoicism is more like being a doormat or emotionless machine than about any kind of emotion control or seeking to resolve the heart of the problems.

I never picture either of those when I hear stoic. The first thing I think of is a viking or a lumberjack.

Ornn from LoL the forge God is also another one I think of.

 

[TheEldritchGod]

Modern Stoicism is more like being a doormat or emotionless machine than about any kind of emotion control or seeking to resolve the heart of the problems.

Emotionless machine is good. Also, get a cat. Because cats will never love you. Having a pet that doesn't have any feelings is cool. Cats are very stoic.

The first thing I think of is a viking or a lumberjack.

What about Viking Lumberjack? Someone has to chop down all those trees to make a long boat.

 

[Aaqil]

What about Viking Lumberjack? Someone has to chop down all those trees to make a long boat.

Must be some real gritty, brave logs they cut down,

 

[CarburetorThompson]

All I’m saying is maybe if Marcus Aurelius spent less time thinking about thinking and more time raising his son, then the Roman Empire wouldn’t have fallen apart so fast. Just saying.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

What about Viking Lumberjack? Someone has to chop down all those trees to make a long boat.

Sure! If you make her a woman she becomes a waifu.

 

[RepresentingDesire]

Interesting, but you know the brain gets addicted to emotion. Be it positive or negative, it doesn't matter. With training you "could" work it. But you may be up against decades of ingrained nurture and societal expectations(materialism, gambling, etc), that many can't break away from. And that kind of heavily trained in brain wiring is really hard to break and often causes depression while in the process of doing it.

I know and that's one of the reasons I'm a hedonist!

 

[owotrucked]

All I’m saying is maybe if Marcus Aurelius spent less time thinking about thinking and more time raising his son, then the Roman Empire wouldn’t have fallen apart so fast. Just saying.

Hard to respect a dad that gets openly cucked by mom and landed in position of absolute power because of chance instead of efforts

He should have adopted and raised an emperor like tradition but no, he was too busy writing copium. Why tf did he put his own son on the seat? Prolly bc wife told him to (

Btw wife was previous emperor's daughter and Marcus adopted dad so mb everything was rigged from the start for this poor lad Marcus

 

[georgelee5786]

If you mean Stoicism as in the Greek belief, I'm fine with it. If it helps you lead a good life, it's somewhat good oftentimes

 

[TheEldritchGod]

I know and that's one of the reasons I'm a hedonist!

*looks left*
*Look right*
"Hey... c'mere..." *looks around again* "Hedonism is a HELL of a lot of work. Being Stoic is basically hedonism for lazy people. You do nothing, stare pensively into the middle distance, and brood. Being emotionless is just another way of saying I'm too lazy to care."

Come to the dark side... Let go and embrace the stoic lifestyle.

 

[Blackchibidono]

What do you think about Stoicisms? I found about it recently, and the idea that everything can be an opportunity for growth is neat. But is it realistic to expect that we always have control over ourselves? I find the teachings interesting. I don't know if I have what it takes to follow them, but I can try.

Anyway, any opinions on it?

I don’t like making it the message of an entire story, but I like having it be a facet of some of my characters. Nothing makes a heroic sociopath genuinely compelling like this viewpoint. That with genuinely good goals and no reason to allow anything to get in the way except their own ideals of striving for personal and spiritual growth, they can become like a perfect ice sculpture, and in some ways are just as fragile.

 

[RepresentingDesire]

*looks left*
*Look right*
"Hey... c'mere..." *looks around again* "Hedonism is a HELL of a lot of work. Being Stoic is basically hedonism for lazy people. You do nothing, stare pensively into the middle distance, and brood. Being emotionless is just another way of saying I'm too lazy to care."

Come to the dark side... Let go and embrace the stoic lifestyle.

I do already brood most of the times, do what for most amounts to nothing - I entertain myself- and I look sometimes just in the distance. I'm either happy or indifferent. I only care about entertainment, so I'm accidently stoic most of the times my eldritch eye monstrosity sibling.

I don’t like making it the message of an entire story, but I like having it be a facet of some of my characters. Nothing makes a heroic sociopath genuinely compelling like this viewpoint. That with genuinely good goals and no reason to allow anything to get in the way except their own ideals of striving for personal and spiritual growth, they can become like a perfect ice sculpture, and in some ways are just as fragile.

I like especially such characters when they know others see them as villains and they simply respect that.

 

[SternenklarenRitter]

Are we talking about heroic stoicism or stoic pacifism? They are both 'stoic' in the sense of accepting life as suffering, but one is about the futility of fighting back while the other embraces fighting tooth and nail to the dirty bitter end. Personally I find both to be unrealistic ideals.