the problem with originality

[Cipiteca396]

On the vampire part, what do you think a better way of doing it would be?

The easiest way to avert their word-for-word summary would be to make the Vampire regret drinking/killing someone and retain their personality, à la "Being Human".

You could also make the thirst easy to resist or unimpactful on their personality(which is probably a cheap move since it reduces the impact of being a vampire. At that point, you should probably just not make a Vampire MC.)

Of course, it's also worth pointing out that the example offered was their personal pet peeve. Technically it's a perfectly usable cliché. I don't like it either, and I wouldn't read it... But there's not really anything wrong with it, outside the personality change. That change is usually justified in-universe, but it might break the suspension of disbelief.

 

[Layenlml]

On the vampire part, what do you think a better way of doing it would be?

The fact that the mental development is done with this is what I don't like feels cheap and almost always ends up in the same way.


There is many novels with vampires described in another way like Blood spirits or sinply getting stronger with blood for example.


Deadman Wonderland has the exact same powers that a Vampire yet no one is refered as a vampire in the entire anime and many readers/viewers don't even link the two.

 

[rain-090]

The fact that the mental development is done with this is what I don't like feels cheap and almost always ends up in the same way.


There is many novels with vampires described in another way like Blood spirits or sinply getting stronger with blood for example.


Deadman Wonderland has the exact same powers that a Vampire yet no one is refered as a vampire in the entire anime and many readers/viewers don't even link the two.

Ignoring the other vampire like beings

What would you think is good character development for characters that doesn't go in the exact same way as described earlier?

 

[Layenlml]

Ignoring the other vampire like beings

What would you think is good character development for characters that doesn't go in the exact same way as described earlier?

Something like a world with different groups of Vampires with MC being in the 'neutral' one, the 'bad' and 'good' Vampores are harrasing this one wanting to absorb them to gain power.

The mental could go in hundread of ways, from romantic with the MC's 'Converter' the one who made him a vampire, wanting to simply fight the bad because he was human, strengthenig the neutral fqction and having him become a leader or go dark with his faction being destroyed and go for revenge.


Why go for human blood when it doesn't make sense in a world with powerful monsters and beasts where you can get the blood, make him find a inteligent monster and this one just give him his/her blood, even fruit should give more nutrition than a human.


He could be a hunter tasked of draining the blood and just drink, make this one be an especial case of his father catching a powerful beast and then him realizing that its blood is better than human's.

 

[bigbear51]

my stance on this is to take what you get. don't like it? drop it. it's what i do. but what i do not do is leave reviews under books giving them one star reviews because they sucked and were predictable like other people tend to do.

and the reason is this. the only reason you find the story cliche or predictable in the first place is because you've seen enough of the genre, but what about for the people who are just getting into it?

what you find cliche and predictable, they might not, but because you rated it poorly, the person seeing it may not want to give the book a chance. you know how easily impressionable kids or teens and even some young adults are, right? trust me when i say they aren't reading your wall of text rant review but instead are focusing on the pretty star rating. and if they see enough of those one or two or three star ratings, they're going to think the story sucks in general and not want to read it.

do you see the point i'm trying to make here? one man's trash is another man's treasure. to me, calling a book cliche or predictable in your review isn't a valid point of criticism.

example. when i was a kid, i loved the sht out of fairy tail. but now? i could hardly stomach it. but that doesn't mean there aren't those out there who are even older than myself with more developed tastes who actually enjoy it themselves. really it all boils down to taste, views, and how fresh you are to the genre.

Yet another example that people around here don't actually care about getting criticism.

 

[Cipiteca396]

Yet another example that people around here don't actually care about getting criticism.

lol, do you just go looking through old dead threads to find things to complain about?

 

[bigbear51]

lol, do you just go looking through old dead threads to find things to complain about?

I see you fit your tag of "talks too much"

But yet somehow never actually having an argument to make

 

[bigbear51]

@Cipiteca396

Not sure what's all this pussyfooting with some dm that you won't allow me to reply too. But clearly you don't care if someone necros a thread with something unrelated as you're perfectly capable of replying in a normal manner to such a comment in this very thread. Nor is what I'm replying to "off-topic" if it's something the OP posted themselves.

 

[Marunikyu]

Cliches can sometimes be used for comedic purposes, but not for (most) serious scenes, simply because cliches make you remember something else and make you lose all immersion.
Originality comes from within (meaning, from nature/za warudo).
The secret to writing a good novel is to take time IRL to go bing chilling.

 

[LilTV1155]

Rather than cliche, if the author intends for originality. The readers may check the author's originality concept for these:
- DId you do your research or just make it up on the fly?
- Is this concept plausible or accurate even though it's pure fiction?
- Did you use your cliche or tropes properly?
- How are your transitions and plot development?
- Genres concepts, how do author implement them?
- Did you draw it or where did you get your sources from?
- Too much details or too little?
- Grammar, spellings, and etc. need more editing?
- What is author's intention for doing this story or what's the message?
- Is the author's writing consistent in storytelling and etc.?
- - - Too much hard work on making consistent creativity for originality than using a designated format.
- - - But sometimes, it's worth making the original story for yourself and for certain audience.
- - If you can't impress the other side, then find another side of the coin to share the creativity tale.