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Teanam

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You are the one who got your readers involved the first time, so it's easy for me to believe that you did it again.

Admittedly, I did post my rant first. I mentioned being called a coward and that my story was insulted as disgusting and racist.
Fair enough, while I didn't call you out specifically, I mentioned a bad review, and yours was the only one.

Still, do you really not get the difference in intensity between me posting a rant in a spoiler tag inside one of my comments under a chapter, and you updating your whole story and posting an entire chapter calling out my story with its full name and everything while notifying all your readers?

Or you writing me a message on RoyalRoad half a year or so later, warning me about my new chapter where I make a bit of fun of humanity and how they're ruining the environment.

Or posting another chapter, calling me out again almost a whole year later after the initial thing, telling your readers that I sent mine to downrate your novel. I didn't even know your novel was still a thing because I had forgotten about the event.

Or more like, repressed, because it keeps resurfacing as someone can't let go of it.

But f*ck, now I don't know. The only one I know for sure came from your story was the one from 2 weeks ago, it seemed obvious that the one from yesterday was from there also since it was so close, so I assumed that you had to be involved for there to be more than one. But I guess I don't know that since I don't know who it was.
Do you want to know what I was doing yesterday regarding my story during the time you think I rallied my readers? I finished a chapter I was struggling with and felt pretty happy about. Afterward, I had a chat with an artist about the concept of a new illustration I want to commission, thanks to the help of my readers you think are horrible people.

Is it really impossible for you to imagine that one of your readers reads my story, as well, and had enough of reading your rants for the third time and decided to drop yours while staying for mine?

That's what I ended up believing the first time because I wanted a reason to not be bothered by it anymore.
And yet you try to drag me down whenever you feel like it.

So I searched for the word 'human' all over the novel, and all I found was more and more doubling down on making humans worthless and more extreme racism and proposals of genocide from the main characters.
Don't you think that's pretty creepy and kinda unhealthy?

On the other hand, you wrote a chapter in which the main character brutally tortures a prisoner of war because she doesn't like his race and that's treated as being ok.
She frigging did that after their army tried to attack her people and enslave their children! It's not a race thing. Also, funny you leave out the part where my MC healed the soldier's broken leg (not her work) and let him go after noticing he wasn't all bad, and there were signs of humanity not being beyond salvation.

-Wow that insect become much more reasonable after the "war" :3-
And I couldn't help but find that extremely disturbing.
Oh, yeah, maybe because it was meant that way? I'm not sure if it was after that, but I think you missed the chapters where she regretted saying and doing some of these things and felt outright sick (she almost threw up after fighting some humans once she noticed what she did while not being herself) from her actions because she is/was suffering from some kind of curse in that regard that made her hard to deal with her anger as the humans threatened to enslave children, which pushed her over the edge.
 
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Still, do you really not get the difference in intensity between me posting a rant in a spoiler tag inside one of my comments under a chapter, and you updating your whole story and posting an entire chapter calling out my story with its full name and everything while notifying all your readers?
There's no difference, both are something that the readers will see.
Or you writing me a message on RoyalRoad half a year or so later, warning me about my new chapter where I make a bit of fun of humanity and how they're ruining the environment.
You mean that time I tried to give some constructive criticism and you told me to go f*ck myself? Yes, I remember that.
Or posting another chapter, calling me out again almost a whole year later after the initial thing, telling your readers that I sent mine to downrate your novel. I didn't even know your novel was still a thing because I had forgotten about the event.
I do regret that one, that's why I deleted it, unlike someone else.
Is it really impossible for you to imagine that one of your readers reads my story, as well, and had enough of reading your rants for the third time and decided to drop yours while staying for mine?
Maybe when it happened, weeks later it seems very unlikely.
Don't you think that's pretty creepy and kinda unhealthy?
It's a public novel, why would that be creepy?
It did prove to be unhealthy, I'll give you that.
She frigging did that after their army tried to attack her people and enslave their children! It's not a race thing. Also, funny you leave out the part where my MC healed the soldier's broken leg (not her work) and let him go after noticing he wasn't all bad, and there were signs of humanity not being beyond salvation.
She kept insulting his race. How is that not a race thing?
Oh, yeah, maybe because it was meant that way? I'm not sure if it was after that, but I think you missed the chapters where she regretted saying and doing some of these things and felt outright sick (she almost threw up after fighting some humans once she noticed what she did while not being herself) from her actions because she is/was suffering from some kind of curse in that regard that made her hard to deal with her anger as the humans threatened to enslave children, which pushed her over the edge.
She didn't break it but threw a rock at it to break it further.
I didn't see her regret anything, I saw her continuing to call humans completely worthless much later, not sounding like someone who has any regrets.
 

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A forewarning, since i am biased towards Teanam here. I'll try to provide context needed to make sense of this thread for those who have not read the story. sorry for spoilers if you have not read it.

EDIT: Dont let this post taint your view of the story before you have read it, it only talks about the MC's interaction with the Humans in the story, and covers maybe a dozen chapters out of nearly 400 chapters.

The MC, has had ALL of their traits, boosted by a flat multiplier, including anger, etc. these raise the ceiling and lower the floor for how happy, angry etc you can get.
Humans, have had propaganda shoved down their throat for a long time about how they are the strongest on the planet. Humans there are the same as us, just their physical strength to their name, with none of the technology we use for force multiplication. in a world where the more magic you have, the stronger you are in all senses.
The first meeting between the two in chapter 15 showcased ALL you need to know about the average humans in the story. Teanam has said their are outliers of the human race which are not like them though, but its rare, and only when they grow up outside of human cities, or are old enough to have explored outside their land.
the humans hunting a Kow (its just a slightly stronger cow) say this when one of them gets the sharp end of the horn "Y-You lowly beast! How dare you hurt one of us superior humans!".
the MC steps in to save their lives in chapter 16, after which, they attempt to force her into "service". if you get what i mean without spelling it out. She walks away, the threshold for her anger not yet reached, and rationalizes away that it was that group that was the outliers, so heads for a human city to make sure she was correct.
Arriving at the gate, the guards call her companion and talking wolf a "lowly beast".
Realizing that she needed an ID to get in to their "beautiful and perfect city" and getting called a "filthy girl". when she asked for ways into the city without an ID, they tried to force her into brothel work.
being pushed past the threshold for her anger, she barely managed to NOT flatten the entire city, which she is easily strong enough to do.
After that, we don't meet humans at all, they are only mentioned every now and then, until the humans decided to start a war to steal a bunch of beast-men children as slaves. which, as you might know, would make damn near everyone angry, let alone someone whose anger goes nuclear.
What happens next (chapter 100) is a cake walk, where she used "dark magic" to brainwash the human army into leaving beast-men alone, where they would be terrified of them on sight. which works. admittedly, it would have been more humane to kill them all, but its both war and you have a stupidly angry tiger upset they want to take children. Yes, that is the single darkest point in the story. but it only lasts 4 chapters and humans stay out of the story until the redemption bit begins for them.
The only point that could even remotely be called "brutally torturing a prisoner of war" would be after said war (chapter 114), when the MC ran in to a human that the main human army had left behind because they were injured. She threw a stone at him gently, to wake him up from being practically unconscious due to having been out in the wilderness for 3 days with no water, a black and purple leg, and little to no food. the stone which accidentally hit said broken leg. (That might have been on purpose, and I'm seeing the MC in a better light than i should, but it said accidental, she just didn't care that she did hit it) after he has woken up and stabilized from the sudden hit on his very painful leg, they just talked, and MC asked questions about the human race, gave him some water, healed his leg, and left.
As far as I'm concerned, the human wasn't a prisoner of war, wasn't tortured, even if he was interrogated, and it certainly wasn't brutal.

Humans themselves have shown up in not even ten total chapters, most of it is just talking about them. Every time they have been in a chapter, they have been living garbage. the Overseer, AKA gods, but they don't like that name, say that MOST of the humans are like what the MC interacted with, with very few exceptions.
It is true that for what the story is most of the time, which is fluffy, the humans were a huge outlier. But to have it entrench into your mind so much that for months and months are you read the story, you KEEP going on about it, constantly dragging the story into the dirt because you personally don't agree with it, when the author just wants you to leave them and their readers alone, is confusing as hell.
 

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@Hans.Trondheim This is a kinda good advertisement; I already put the story in my plan-to-read box because this made me curious, and by reading the responses, it seems something that is just a small part of a larger story being blown out of proportion.

tl;dr Teddy... bedtime, bruh.
 

Teanam

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There's no difference, both are something that the readers will see.

You mean that time I tried to give some constructive criticism and you told me to go f*ck myself? Yes, I remember that.

I do regret that one, that's why I deleted it, unlike someone else.

Maybe when it happened, weeks later it seems very unlikely.

It's a public novel, why would that be creepy?
It did prove to be unhealthy, I'll give you that.

She kept insulting his race. How is that not a race thing?

She didn't break it but threw a rock at it to break it further.
I didn't see her regret anything, I saw her continuing to call humans completely worthless much later, not sounding like someone who has any regrets.
Ok
 

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A forewarning, since i am biased towards Teanam here. I'll try to provide context needed to make sense of this thread for those who have not read the story. sorry for spoilers if you have not read it.

EDIT: Dont let this post taint your view of the story before you have read it, it only talks about the MC's interaction with the Humans in the story, and covers maybe a dozen chapters out of nearly 400 chapters.

The MC, has had ALL of their traits, boosted by a flat multiplier, including anger, etc. these raise the ceiling and lower the floor for how happy, angry etc you can get.
Humans, have had propaganda shoved down their throat for a long time about how they are the strongest on the planet. Humans there are the same as us, just their physical strength to their name, with none of the technology we use for force multiplication. in a world where the more magic you have, the stronger you are in all senses.
The first meeting between the two in chapter 15 showcased ALL you need to know about the average humans in the story. Teanam has said their are outliers of the human race which are not like them though, but its rare, and only when they grow up outside of human cities, or are old enough to have explored outside their land.
the humans hunting a Kow (its just a slightly stronger cow) say this when one of them gets the sharp end of the horn "Y-You lowly beast! How dare you hurt one of us superior humans!".
the MC steps in to save their lives in chapter 16, after which, they attempt to force her into "service". if you get what i mean without spelling it out. She walks away, the threshold for her anger not yet reached, and rationalizes away that it was that group that was the outliers, so heads for a human city to make sure she was correct.
Arriving at the gate, the guards call her companion and talking wolf a "lowly beast".
Realizing that she needed an ID to get in to their "beautiful and perfect city" and getting called a "filthy girl". when she asked for ways into the city without an ID, they tried to force her into brothel work.
being pushed past the threshold for her anger, she barely managed to NOT flatten the entire city, which she is easily strong enough to do.
After that, we don't meet humans at all, they are only mentioned every now and then, until the humans decided to start a war to steal a bunch of beast-men children as slaves. which, as you might know, would make damn near everyone angry, let alone someone whose anger goes nuclear.
What happens next (chapter 100) is a cake walk, where she used "dark magic" to brainwash the human army into leaving beast-men alone, where they would be terrified of them on sight. which works. admittedly, it would have been more humane to kill them all, but its both war and you have a stupidly angry tiger upset they want to take children. Yes, that is the single darkest point in the story. but it only lasts 4 chapters and humans stay out of the story until the redemption bit begins for them.
The only point that could even remotely be called "brutally torturing a prisoner of war" would be after said war (chapter 114), when the MC ran in to a human that the main human army had left behind because they were injured. She threw a stone at him gently, to wake him up from being practically unconscious due to having been out in the wilderness for 3 days with no water, a black and purple leg, and little to no food. the stone which accidentally hit said broken leg. (That might have been on purpose, and I'm seeing the MC in a better light than i should, but it said accidental, she just didn't care that she did hit it) after he has woken up and stabilized from the sudden hit on his very painful leg, they just talked, and MC asked questions about the human race, gave him some water, healed his leg, and left.
As far as I'm concerned, the human wasn't a prisoner of war, wasn't tortured, even if he was interrogated, and it certainly wasn't brutal.

Humans themselves have shown up in not even ten total chapters, most of it is just talking about them. Every time they have been in a chapter, they have been living garbage. the Overseer, AKA gods, but they don't like that name, say that MOST of the humans are like what the MC interacted with, with very few exceptions.
It is true that for what the story is most of the time, which is fluffy, the humans were a huge outlier. But to have it entrench into your mind so much that for months and months are you read the story, you KEEP going on about it, constantly dragging the story into the dirt because you personally don't agree with it, when the author just wants you to leave them and their readers alone, is confusing as hell.
Did you forget about the part where the wolf claimed to have destroyed 17 cities? The story started with genocide and everything after that was meant to justify it.
Humans themselves have shown up in not even ten total chapters, most of it is just talking about them. Every time they have been in a chapter, they have been living garbage. the Overseer, AKA gods, but they don't like that name, say that MOST of the humans are like what the MC interacted with, with very few exceptions.
It is true that for what the story is most of the time, which is fluffy, the humans were a huge outlier.
And that's the problem, this is a story about how the world would be a perfect place if not for the 'inferior race'.
 

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Why is this happening again...
Because his readers were giving me 1-star ratings.

I swear that I was trying to do my best to forget about this, but how am I supposed to ignore that?!
 

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:blob_hide: It would be helpful if the story that shall not be named would be linked, unless I missed it.
 

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Did you forget about the part where the wolf claimed to have destroyed 17 cities? The story started with genocide and everything after that was meant to justify it.
Did you forget the part where they were trying to kill the wolf when it just wanted to be left alone? We were shown an empty ruin where they had tapestries about them trying to kill the wolf.
And that's the problem, this is a story about how the world would be a perfect place if not for the 'inferior race'.
Even the author agrees that they probably went to far with the humans, thats why there is a redemption arc at all, and they didn't just get wiped out. If you think that the entirely story is written around the fact that the humans are marring the world, and not about fluffy girls doing fluffy things to other fluffy girls. then you dont understand the story at all. You remove 90% of the story to focus on a single very minor aspect because you disagree with it.
:blob_hide: It would be helpful if the story that shall not be named would be linked, unless I missed it.
 

Zinless

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As I've said before in the last thread, you're literally my inspiration to write. I really love your story, it made me fall in love with the 'Misunderstanding' tag.

But even so, I believe in the "Streisand Effect". Where attempts at doing something, ends up giving the opposite result than intended.

If this situation was left alone, it will eventually fade away. But ranting about it again will probably give more light to this and will probably get you some more 1* ratings.

If you find that the 1* ratings to be unjustified, you can probably bring it up with the admins and have them removed. Ranting about it will only make things worse.

I know you're in a tough spot right now and feeling frustrated. But please, just calm down and let things fade away. I'm not saying no one's doing anything wrong, but sometimes it's better to just forget and move on. And if someone still end up giving you 1* ratings, I'm sure the admins can help.
 

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:blob_hide: It would be helpful if the story that shall not be named would be linked, unless I missed it.
'Boosted Restart'

I guess this really is free advertising...
 

Assurbanipal_II

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:blob_blank: And this story is the wanton offender in question. I am confused. Seems more like the usual marshmallow story.
 
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