Stories that I hate

[CarburetorThompson]

These are the types of stories that I hate to read. This is purely a rant and in not meant to be a constructive discussion. This is also personal opinion, but since my opinion is the correct one you can just take it as fact

1. Man vs god stories.

I’ve seen a lot of these particularly isekai. There’s a few reasons I hate them. One of them is that a lot of times it feels the mc is only alive due to either the mistake/ignorance/pride of the god character they’re fighting against. Basically I find a story where the mc is only alive because of luck and nothing to do with their own actions to be uninteresting.

Another reason is to get any enjoyable pay off in a man vs god story, you have to wait until the very end, the final climax. Not every story that involves killing gods is like this, in chornotrigger or final fantasy you don’t spend the first ten minutes of the game declaring ‘I’m going to kill the god and get my revenge‘ the story naturally progresses with elevating stakes until it reaches that point. In the man vs god stories I’ve read, its always chapter 1 or near it where the character declares their goal to be the ultimate end all be all of any stakes you can have in a story.

2. Stories with parasitic characters.

I hate stories where the protagonist is constantly sharing their body with an evil entity that is constantly trying to steal their body. It‘s just annoying for me to read a story where there is a knife constantly hanging over the main character, and where any progress that character makes can be undone at any moment.

3. Stories that glorify slavery

I know such a brave statement that slavery bad, but it’s a big trend I’ve seen in a lot of Japanese light novels and manga. I have no problem with stories that include slavery, but those that go out of the way to have the mc willingly participate in it, and portray it as something that can be good if there is a ‘kind slave owner’, that shit just makes me sick.

Also I don’t know why, but it’s almost always Japanese shit. I hardly ever see the troupe in Korean novels and manwha

4. Stories that have whole volumes or massive chunks dedicated to following an unsympathetic antagonist pov.

This doesn’t have to be bad, but a lot of the times I see the troupe it becomes unbearable and makes me drop a story. Often these stories are structured to make the antagonists unlikeable, and then 14 volumes in decide they need to dedicate a whole book to showing these characters I don’t like succeed and overcome adversity at the expense of characters I’ve been spent the last 13 volumes being conditioned to like. Even if it’s building setup for future chapters, I don’t care, it just isn’t fun to read, and I read to have fun.

5.Genres I really hate

Dungeons/monsters invade earth

Isekai where a Japanese teenager knows how to make a fully automatic cycling blow back operated guns with cased ammunition, and other technology a stupid kid likely would not be able to fully understand.

Game merges with reality

VRMMO stories that have npcs that are fully self aware, but never touches on the horrifying implications that has. (Don’t hate these ones as much, will still read them, but it just gives me a sour feeling)

Feel free to tell me what you hate, but I didn’t write this to be a discussion it’s just a rant

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Oooh, boy! @RepresentingEnvy Come here quickly, CarburetorThompson is cooking again.

 

[Deleted member 84247]

These are the types of stories that I hate to read. This is purely a rant and in not meant to be a constructive discussion. This is also personal opinion, but since my opinion is the correct one you can just take it as fact

1. Man vs god stories.

I’ve seen a lot of these particularly isekai. There’s a few reasons I hate them. One of them is that a lot of times it feels the mc is only alive due to either the mistake/ignorance/pride of the god character they’re fighting against. Basically I find a story where the mc is only alive because of luck and nothing to do with their own actions to be uninteresting.

Another reason is to get any enjoyable pay off in a man vs god story, you have to wait until the very end, the final climax. Not every story that involves killing gods is like this, in chornotrigger or final fantasy you don’t spend the first ten minutes of the game declaring ‘I’m going to kill the god and get my revenge‘ the story naturally progresses with elevating stakes until it reaches that point. In the man vs god stories I’ve read, its always chapter 1 or near it where the character declares their goal to be the ultimate end all be all of any stakes you can have in a story.

2. Stories with parasitic characters.

I hate stories where the protagonist is constantly sharing their body with an evil entity that is constantly trying to steal their body. It‘s just annoying for me to read a story where there is a knife constantly hanging over the main character, and where any progress that character makes can be undone at any moment.

3. Stories that glorify slavery

I know such a brave statement that slavery bad, but it’s a big trend I’ve seen in a lot of Japanese light novels and manga. I have no problem with stories that include slavery, but those that go out of the way to have the mc willingly participate in it, and portray it as something that can be good if there is a ‘kind slave owner’, that shit just makes me sick.

Also I don’t know why, but it’s almost always Japanese shit. I hardly ever see the troupe in Korean novels and manwha

4. Stories that have whole volumes or massive chunks dedicated to following an unsympathetic antagonist pov.

This doesn’t have to be bad, but a lot of the times I see the troupe it becomes unbearable and makes me drop a story. Often these stories are structured to make the antagonists unlikeable, and then 14 volumes in decide they need to dedicate a whole book to showing these characters I don’t like succeed and overcome adversity at the expense of characters I’ve been spent the last 13 volumes being conditioned to like. Even if it’s building setup for future chapters, I don’t care, it just isn’t fun to read, and I read to have fun.

5.Genres I really hate

Dungeons/monsters invade earth

Isekai where a Japanese teenager knows how to make a fully automatic cycling blow back operated guns with cased ammunition, and other technology a stupid kid likely would not be able to fully understand.

Game merges with reality

VRMMO stories that have npcs that are fully self aware, but never touches on the horrifying implications that has. (Don’t hate these ones as much, will still read them, but it just gives me a sour feeling)

Feel free to tell me what you hate, but I didn’t write this to be a discussion it’s just a rant

Oooh, boy! @RepresentingEnvy Come here quickly, CarburetorThompson is cooking again.

I am adding another.

6. Stories that don't include vampires.

If your story doesn't include them, I will feel excluded and cry. We all care about inclusion, but when it comes to my people, they stop caring. This queen has had enough and is seriously considering total dominion over the human race. I'd not do that because I am too lazy too kind and big-hearted.

 

[Sergeandgreen]

These are the types of stories that I hate to read. This is purely a rant and in not meant to be a constructive discussion. This is also personal opinion, but since my opinion is the correct one you can just take it as fact

1. Man vs god stories.

I’ve seen a lot of these particularly isekai. There’s a few reasons I hate them. One of them is that a lot of times it feels the mc is only alive due to either the mistake/ignorance/pride of the god character they’re fighting against. Basically I find a story where the mc is only alive because of luck and nothing to do with their own actions to be uninteresting.

Another reason is to get any enjoyable pay off in a man vs god story, you have to wait until the very end, the final climax. Not every story that involves killing gods is like this, in chornotrigger or final fantasy you don’t spend the first ten minutes of the game declaring ‘I’m going to kill the god and get my revenge‘ the story naturally progresses with elevating stakes until it reaches that point. In the man vs god stories I’ve read, its always chapter 1 or near it where the character declares their goal to be the ultimate end all be all of any stakes you can have in a story.

2. Stories with parasitic characters.

I hate stories where the protagonist is constantly sharing their body with an evil entity that is constantly trying to steal their body. It‘s just annoying for me to read a story where there is a knife constantly hanging over the main character, and where any progress that character makes can be undone at any moment.

3. Stories that glorify slavery

I know such a brave statement that slavery bad, but it’s a big trend I’ve seen in a lot of Japanese light novels and manga. I have no problem with stories that include slavery, but those that go out of the way to have the mc willingly participate in it, and portray it as something that can be good if there is a ‘kind slave owner’, that shit just makes me sick.

Also I don’t know why, but it’s almost always Japanese shit. I hardly ever see the troupe in Korean novels and manwha

4. Stories that have whole volumes or massive chunks dedicated to following an unsympathetic antagonist pov.

This doesn’t have to be bad, but a lot of the times I see the troupe it becomes unbearable and makes me drop a story. Often these stories are structured to make the antagonists unlikeable, and then 14 volumes in decide they need to dedicate a whole book to showing these characters I don’t like succeed and overcome adversity at the expense of characters I’ve been spent the last 13 volumes being conditioned to like. Even if it’s building setup for future chapters, I don’t care, it just isn’t fun to read, and I read to have fun.

5.Genres I really hate

Dungeons/monsters invade earth

Isekai where a Japanese teenager knows how to make a fully automatic cycling blow back operated guns with cased ammunition, and other technology a stupid kid likely would not be able to fully understand.

Game merges with reality

VRMMO stories that have npcs that are fully self aware, but never touches on the horrifying implications that has. (Don’t hate these ones as much, will still read them, but it just gives me a sour feeling)

Feel free to tell me what you hate, but I didn’t write this to be a discussion it’s just a rant

Well, saying slavery is good when the slave owner is good is like saying a dictatorship is good if the dictator is a nice guy.
So yeah, i fully understand your problem with it. Why can't they admit that they are bad people and have their slave harem or cannon fooder?

 

[CharlesEBrown]

3. Stories that glorify slavery

I know such a brave statement that slavery bad, but it’s a big trend I’ve seen in a lot of Japanese light novels and manga. I have no problem with stories that include slavery, but those that go out of the way to have the mc willingly participate in it, and portray it as something that can be good if there is a ‘kind slave owner’, that shit just makes me sick.

I wonder if this is due to the Japanese historically being more likely to HAVE slaves (and to treat them with a strict code of honor), than to BE slaves? I know it is part of their history that is glossed over a lot but there were reports from the two or three times they occupied one of two peninsulas traditionally part of China that they engaged in slavery (in fact, that was allegedly a big reason why we sided with Russia against Japan during the Sino-Russian war).

4. Stories that have whole volumes or massive chunks dedicated to following an unsympathetic antagonist pov.

This doesn’t have to be bad, but a lot of the times I see the troupe it becomes unbearable and makes me drop a story. Often these stories are structured to make the antagonists unlikeable, and then 14 volumes in decide they need to dedicate a whole book to showing these characters I don’t like succeed and overcome adversity at the expense of characters I’ve been spent the last 13 volumes being conditioned to like. Even if it’s building setup for future chapters, I don’t care, it just isn’t fun to read, and I read to have fun.

When I am not writing first person stuff I do like to occasionally "step into" the bad guy's point of view - but not for long sections. Maybe a full chapter here, a partial one there. Sometimes it will be as part of a redemption arc, other times just to showcase why this character is a villain (heck, in one story, plan to have the initial MC die and be approached by the character who has been the villain all along to explain exactly what was going on so far and why, even though he will work against them, he hopes the MCs children will defeat him and win in the end).

 

[LilRora]

1. I never liked the stupid high stakes in those. Like, the gods are high, high, and high in the sky above mortals yet for some reason that particular piece of stardust is crucial to a war that has not been resolved in ten thousand years.

I'm exaggerating, but you get what I mean.

2. The weirdest thing about them (at least those I've read) is that in most cases it's not even a threat, but feels more like an offhand comment that might become relevant in fifty chapters.

3. I think the issue with this is that a "kind" slave owner is someone who treats slaves well and doesn't abuse them, but a "kind slave owner" is a slave owner in name only. Most of the problem stories are the latter.

 

[melchi]

I am adding another.

6. Stories that don't include vampires.

If your story doesn't include them, I will feel excluded and cry. We all care about inclusion, but when it comes to my people, they stop caring. This queen has had enough and is seriously considering total dominion over the human race. I'd not do that because I am too lazy too kind and big-hearted.

7.) Stories that include human farms. >_>

 

[Seaspecter]

I am adding another.

6. Stories that don't include vampires.

If your story doesn't include them, I will feel excluded and cry. We all care about inclusion, but when it comes to my people, they stop caring. This queen has had enough and is seriously considering total dominion over the human race. I'd not do that because I am too lazy too kind and big-hearted.

Trust me you don't want me to add a vampire to my story.

 

[KoyukiMegumi]

7.) Stories that include human farms. >_>

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

LitRPGs, simply for the fact that I can't see the characters as 'human', aside from the easy way of writing "MC is well-liked by many" thru the use of numbers and levels.

 

[Nolff]

Game merges with reality

I would beg to differ.

Mine's not included in it, right?

 

[LuoirM]

3. Stories that glorify slavery

*guitar sounds*
wish we could turn back time...

 

[Nolff]

1. I never liked the stupid high stakes in those. Like, the gods are high, high, and high in the sky above mortals yet for some reason that particular piece of stardust is crucial to a war that has not been resolved in ten thousand years.

I'm exaggerating, but you get what I mean.

2. The weirdest thing about them (at least those I've read) is that in most cases it's not even a threat, but feels more like an offhand comment that might become relevant in fifty chapters.

3. I think the issue with this is that a "kind" slave owner is someone who treats slaves well and doesn't abuse them, but a "kind slave owner" is a slave owner in name only. Most of the problem stories are the latter.

I agree. Then, what about the man vs god trope in Omniscient's Reader's Viewpoint (ORV)?

*guitar sounds*
wish we could turn back time...

"Mister, how much does this cost?"

 

[LuoirM]

"Mister, how much does this cost?"

the black one's cheaper

 

[RiaCorvidiva]

welp, TIL my story sucks. Gonna go delete it and make the world a better place.

 

[CrimsonGenius]

Harem stories.

 

[LilRora]

I agree. Then, what about the man vs god trope in Omniscient's Reader's Viewpoint (ORV)?

I haven't read all of it, I think I stopped somewhere around the hundredth chapter, but from what I remember it was a similar problem. Not nearly to the degree some stories take it though; it was a pretty good story.

In that story it was at least properly explained why the gods couldn't intervene directly, and the main character did not become important because of his potential or fate or something, but his achievements. The author also took his time to introduce the war, and didn't explain everything outright.

 

[Dark_Phoenix_Zaetyk]

3. Stories that glorify slavery

This one's always turn into weird and not good routes that's why i avoid them.

 

[Nolff]

the black one's cheaper

Ahh... What 'bout this Iraq fella?

I haven't read all of it, I think I stopped somewhere around the hundredth chapter, but from what I remember it was a similar problem. Not nearly to the degree some stories take it though; it was a pretty good story.

In that story it was at least properly explained why the gods couldn't intervene directly, and the main character did not become important because of his potential or fate or something, but his achievements. The author also took his time to introduce the war, and didn't explain everything outright.

So, on the scale of the pelones, how good is it?

 

[Fox-Trot-9]

I am adding another.

6. Stories that don't include vampires.

If your story doesn't include them, I will feel excluded and cry. We all care about inclusion, but when it comes to my people, they stop caring. This queen has had enough and is seriously considering total dominion over the human race. I'd not do that because I am too lazy too kind and big-hearted.

I have a vampire villain in one of my stories (Days of Blood and Roses), but he's a sadistic fuck.