Short rant about allegations and doubts

LuoirM

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That said, might be my narcissism speaking, I can't even conveived that you didn't try to defend yourself first. You had all the cards with you.
what cards? I was a horny teenager and shit didn't turn out terribly until we already broke apart and never talk to each other again, the only party talking was the bystanders as mentioned. If I went back there and argue with them, I think that'd make the situation worse.
 

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what cards? I was a horny teenager and shit didn't turn out terribly until we already broke apart and never talk to each other again, the only party talking was the bystanders as mentioned. If I went back there and argue with them, I think that'd make the situation worse.
The horny teenager part and the hormones, plus you were a minor at that time while she was older than you. Your defense is that you didn't know any better and just went on her lead.
 

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The horny teenager part and the hormones, plus you were a minor at that time while she was older than you. Your defense is that you didn't know any better and just went on her lead.
Are you... Showing me how to get off a sentence in case I ever go to court right now? :blob_hmm_two:
I was puzzled.

Luoir in the case was younger.

How was it your fault?
For the longest time, and still a bit til now, I never thought about it, you know, every teenager think they're matured, that they know everything, that they're smart and cunning, so they never thought of themselves as someone less.

And also, the first steps was her wrong, but I believe I did more wrong in the time that we were together.
 

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And also, the first steps was her wrong, but I believe I did more wrong in the time that we were together.
Oh.

Also, SA through words? Dafuq?

What happen to sticks and stone? Or is it the hindsight shitshow that I had seen in the news so many times?
 

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That said, might be my narcissism speaking, I can't even conveived that you didn't try to defend yourself first. You had all the cards with you.
This reminds me of another thing that can be helpful, ad hominem arguments, depicted the accuser as narcissistic/inane/jealous can be very helpful and fun.
 

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Are you... Showing me how to get off a sentence in case I ever go to court right now? :blob_hmm_two:
I dabble in law as a hobby (that's why I knew I violated the Geneva Suggestion) so I know a lot of stuff. And yes, it is easier to get off a sentence if you bring up you were a minor. For the messages you sent, you could use the mental health defense since you clearly had issues, and to give credit talk with your family and visit a psychologist to get medical proof.
 

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I dabble in law as a hobby (that's why I knew I violated the Geneva Suggestion) so I know a lot of stuff. And yes, it is easier to get off a sentence if you bring up you were a minor. For the messages you sent, you could use the mental health defense since you clearly had issues, and to give credit talk with your family and visit a psychologist to get medical proof.
Thank you, but no, getting off on the count of insanity is lazy writing, many children and victims are negatively affected by that and I do not associate myself with that even if one day I get accused of mass murdering and sentence to death. This probably won't relate to a more cold cut person like you but yeah, thanks for the tips... I'd say I got a rather good case for myself here by simply just stating the facts, and I'm aware of what I said online, if it were ever to be used against me then I'm glad to know that I never said something I regret/lies

It is of a man's duty to be dumb, and a man's pride to be honest.
This reminds me of another thing that can be helpful, ad hominem arguments, depicted the accuser as narcissistic/inane/jealous can be very helpful and fun.
why does that sound like a personal attack fallacy-
 

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why does that sound like a personal attack fallacy-
It's called ad hominem fallacy and the idea that fallacies are always wrong is too a fallacy, called fallacy fallacy, the description could still be right like in my case.
 

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For the longest time, and still a bit til now, I never thought about it, you know, every teenager think they're matured, that they know everything, that they're smart and cunning, so they never thought of themselves as someone less.
That you realize this shows you have grown a lot.
People can usually tell when someone is less mature than them. A teenager will consider a pre-schooler a baby, and to an adult, they are both kids.
And also, the first steps was her wrong, but I believe I did more wrong in the time that we were together.
Why? I understand there are things you are not mentioning. That's good. Keeping quiet applies to the internet as well. But the wrong she has done weighs heavy, and it is difficult for me to believe you could have done anything worse.

That aside, the first steps matter. This is not about two kids throwing dirt at each other. In that case, you are right, it does not matter who started it. Both are equally to blame(, and their parents even more so for not teaching them any better). But consider this:
A teenager throws dirt at a toddler. The toddler throws dirt back, and the teenager is very unlucky: there's a stone in the dirt which injures his eye. Would you blame the toddler for taking the teenager's eye out?
Sure, you would scold them and tell them not to do it again, but they are a toddler. And they were following the lead of someone older, the teenager.

I know this is not a perfect equality. What you are implying is that the teenager threw dirt at the toddler, and the toddler then stabbed the teenager with a spade.
Can you see why I find that difficult to believe?

Regardless, it's not something anyone but you, her, your psychologists/lawyers/closest family members should be talking about. There are topics for gossip. Being an asshole is a topic for gossip. Two adults breaking up with one another can be a topic if they do so noisily and childishly. But bored acquaintances should not be sifting through other's dirty underwear, especially not years after. Keeping such rumours alive is malicious, and whatever explanation you give is simply fuel for the fire.

It is of a man's duty to be dumb, and a man's pride to be honest.
If you can stick to that pride, you are a good man. Though you will need to find a lady who can appreciate your honesty.

"Honey, did I gain weight."
"A little."
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