Question.

[Vivid_dreams]

There was a time when I used to read LNs and WNs all day long.
I was obnoxious ah. I only used to read stuff that was at least 200-300 chapters in. (That's me being generous. I clearly remember times when I read 1k chapters deep stuff only.)(with good reviews btw)
Now I know how annoying and exhausting writing one chapter is.
Okay, but what is the average length that people are satisfied by before they begin a project?
I really hope the answer is around 20-50.
Maybe god is trying to level up my patience and determination. I really don't want God to do that.

 

[AnonUnlimited]

There was a time when I used to read LNs and WNs all day long.
I was obnoxious ah. I only used to read stuff that was at least 200-300 chapters in. (That's me being generous. I clearly remember times when I read 1k chapters deep stuff only.)(with good reviews btw)
Now I know how annoying and exhausting writing one chapter is.
Okay, but what is the average length that people are satisfied by before they begin a project?
I really hope the answer is around 20-50.
Maybe god is trying to level up my patience and determination. I really don't want God to do that.

Hmm, I'd say you need to get a real job.
Barring that, a lot of people who read all day don't want to read something that's only 20-50 because they'd get that done in a day, they want something that'll last them a long time. I have started to not read long ones because I find that they are often repetitive and things take forever to happen. It's basically comfort junk reading.

 

[Emotica]

There was a time when I used to read LNs and WNs all day long.
I was obnoxious ah. I only used to read stuff that was at least 200-300 chapters in. (That's me being generous. I clearly remember times when I read 1k chapters deep stuff only.)(with good reviews btw)
Now I know how annoying and exhausting writing one chapter is.
Okay, but what is the average length that people are satisfied by before they begin a project?
I really hope the answer is around 20-50.
Maybe god is trying to level up my patience and determination. I really don't want God to do that.

I don’t really get it. You should write when you’re feeling passionate about it, not when it feels like a chore. It’s not like the odds of getting rich from writing are all that high, so why do something you’re not going to legitimately enjoy? If it’s just a matter of feeling unmotivated, sometimes you need time, and sometimes you need to just get into gear.

 

[CountVanBadger]

You should write when you’re feeling passionate about it, not when it feels like a chore.

The easiest thing in the world to do is to not write. Give yourself enough excuses ("I don't feel passionate right now," "It feels like a chore today") and eventually you'll just stop not not writing entirely.

 

[Hans.Trondheim]

I don’t really get it. You should write when you’re feeling passionate about it, not when it feels like a chore. It’s not like the odds of getting rich from writing are all that high, so why do something you’re not going to legitimately enjoy? If it’s just a matter of feeling unmotivated, sometimes you need time, and sometimes you need to just get into gear.

Sometimes, you'll have to force yourself to write, so you can 'jumpstart' writing. And really, this part feels like a chore until your routine adapts and your body gets used to it.

The important thing is, as you said, is passion. That one is the thing that will make you return to writing after taking a break from it.

There was a time when I used to read LNs and WNs all day long.
I was obnoxious ah. I only used to read stuff that was at least 200-300 chapters in. (That's me being generous. I clearly remember times when I read 1k chapters deep stuff only.)(with good reviews btw)
Now I know how annoying and exhausting writing one chapter is.
Okay, but what is the average length that people are satisfied by before they begin a project?
I really hope the answer is around 20-50.
Maybe god is trying to level up my patience and determination. I really don't want God to do that.

I suggest you plan your work so you have a rough idea of how long will it take to finish. Think of the story first, then estimate the length second. And you don't really have to follow through it; give yourself some flexibility.

 

[Eldoria]

The easiest thing in the world to do is to not write. Give yourself enough excuses ("I don't feel passionate right now," "It feels like a chore today") and eventually you'll just stop not not writing entirely.

Well, I admit I'm experiencing this crisis. However, it's not because I'm lazy, but because my ideas have dried up. After months of regular writing, we can all experience creative burnout. Don't worry, as long as we're not George R.R. Martin, we're safe.

 

[Omarfaruq]

Well, I admit I'm experiencing this crisis. However, it's not because I'm lazy, but because my ideas have dried up. After months of regular writing, we can all experience creative burnout. Don't worry, as long as we're not George R.R. Martin, we're safe.

Wise words by wise shifu.

 

[Corty]

Around 60+ chapters, sometimes 100, when there was a noticeable uptake in readership for me, but that also depends on the genre.

 

[Omarfaruq]

as long as we're not George R.R. Martin, we're safe.

No George R.R Marin was harmed in this message.
Well, for me it's around 600 chapters.

 

[Vivid_dreams]

I don’t really get it. You should write when you’re feeling passionate about it, not when it feels like a chore. It’s not like the odds of getting rich from writing are all that high, so why do something you’re not going to legitimately enjoy? If it’s just a matter of feeling unmotivated, sometimes you need time, and sometimes you need to just get into gear.

No i love writing. Re-reading and correcting/enriching the prose is what gets annoying

 

[CountVanBadger]

as long as we're not George R.R. Martin, we're safe.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I admit I've never written anything popular (yet) but everything I've heard says that online audiences are incredibly easy to lose. They're attracted to consistent upload schedules, so if you take that away they have tens of thousands of other free stories to replace you with.

 

[Emotica]

No i love writing. Re-reading and correcting/enriching the prose is what gets annoying

Worry about that last, or in manageable amounts. There’s a reason that editor is technically a whole different career path than writer. Burnouts from rereads, corrections, second-guessing, and striving for perfection is so real. You gotta think, famous authors that wrote books in incredible short times either didn’t proofread, or just shipped it off to an editor. That doesn’t apply so much for the rest of us, but my point is that sometimes it’s more productive to focus on the passion first. The writing is never going to be perfect, especially if you compare with the most renown writers.

The real question is are you writing for other writers, readers, or yourself? Try to have some fun with it, friend. You’re perfectly allowed to “vibe-write” first and fix things later. Heck, one day you might be on an editing kick specifically, where everything’s just making complete sense, and you’ll thank yourself for at least having the bones.

Last bit of my rant: for me, when I don’t have the writing bug, or the editing patience, I put 100% of my effort on outlining. It makes it a lot easier to get a running start when the time comes.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. I admit I've never written anything popular (yet) but everything I've heard says that online audiences are incredibly easy to lose. They're attracted to consistent upload schedules, so if you take that away they have tens of thousands of other free stories to replace you with.

This is kind of bizarre to me, because I could pick up 100 books or manga, and it’s the 2 or 3 in the heap that keep me coming back. I’m curious if retention rates have anything to do with the genre/topic. For instance, I’d imagine if the content relies heavily on adult themes and instant gratification (if you get my drift ?), then that would be extremely replaceable for an audience. I doubt they’re on the edge of their seat wondering what happens next if the answer is sex.

That’s not to say consistent uploads aren’t a huge factor in gaining audience, but retention could be a different story. I need to research this for funsies, but even IP’s like One Punch Man have incredibly poor release schedules and still great fan retention. I guess that’s a different ballpark altogether though.