Pirates or Demon Lords

[LilRora]

If we are doing it, what is a lore accurate demon lord?

Hum. You kinda got me there, that's a good question.

I think there's a lot more freedom there since a Demon Lord isn't exactly rooted in reality? You could technically say the same about a fictional pirate, and you could change one to be cooler - a lot of authors do that by making, for example, pirates with principles, kinda like Robin Hood is an altered thief - but it's debatable where a pirate stops being a pirate and starts being something else that's only called a pirate.

With a Demon Lord, there's a lot more freedom there, and I think that's a lot of freedom many authors aren't utilizing that's definitely not in the common perception of a Demon Lord.

Frankly, I think that's the kind of topic we could argue about for a long time, because both sides got arguments that can't exactly be disproved without going into preferences, likes, and subjective opinions about each.

What I'm speaking about is how I see a pirate and how I see a Demon Lord, and a pirate's got a fairly rigid definition in my mind that most popular stories don't match well.

 

[Azure_Fog]

Which do you think are cooler? Am curious (No a pirate demon lord cannot be your answer)

If a pirate demon lord is invalid, then the answer is a demon lord pirate~

 

[SsemouyOnan]

What you're vibing to is the cool part that doesn't involve the bad part of what being a pirate is, and that worse part is the very definition of what a proper lore-accurate pirate is. Does that make sense?

Bold of you to assume I don't vibe to sleeping under the deck in the dark and getting no rest because someone pooped on my head(may or may not be human) and I was too busy puking because the hardtack I ate was a natural habitat for some strange creature. Only for our ship to get blasted by the armed merchant group the captain was stupid enough to fight the very next day, with me painfully dying with my body riddled with splinters and my body rotting with all the diseases I got from wounds and the dirty environment. Only for the merchants to board us and do unspeakable acts as revenge for what successful pirates did to their old friends.

This is why you should be a Privateer, same thing as a pirate but you're backed by the government so life is better

 

[RepresentingDesire]

Bold of you to assume I don't vibe to sleeping under the deck in the dark and getting no rest because someone pooped on my head(may or may not be human) and I was too busy puking because the hardtack I ate was a natural habitat for some strange creature. Only for our ship to get blasted by the armed merchant group the captain was stupid enough to fight the very next day, with me painfully dying with my body riddled with splinters and my body rotting with all the diseases I got from wounds and the dirty environment. Only for the merchants to board us and do unspeakable acts as revenge for what successful pirates did to their old friends.

That reminds me of a gay pirate story that is supposed to be good.

 

[RepresentingSilence]

If a pirate demon lord is invalid, then the answer is a demon lord pirate~

A demon pirate lord

 

[Azure_Fog]

A demon pirate lord

That works too~

 

[RepresentingDesire]

Pirated lord demon.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

Hum. You kinda got me there, that's a good question.

I think there's a lot more freedom there since a Demon Lord isn't exactly rooted in reality? You could technically say the same about a fictional pirate, and you could change one to be cooler - a lot of authors do that by making, for example, pirates with principles, kinda like Robin Hood is an altered thief - but it's debatable where a pirate stops being a pirate and starts being something else that's only called a pirate.

With a Demon Lord, there's a lot more freedom there, and I think that's a lot of freedom many authors aren't utilizing.

Frankly, I think that's the kind of topic we could argue about for a long time, because both sides got arguments that can't exactly be disproved without going into preferences, likes and dislikes.

What I'm speaking about is how I see a pirate and how I see a Demon Lord, and a pirate's got a fairly rigid definition in my mind that most popular stories don't match well.

True, you've stated your opinion. I just think there is plenty of freedom with pirates, since a pirate is basically an outlaw on a ship. A bunch of bandits, rabble, robbers, or whatever you want to call them, on a ship. And bandits could be of different races, and pirates can use different ships. And even though a lot of them, just like your usual bandits, were poor fellas who were forced into becoming a pirate, it's not like there were zero powerful(relatively) or successful(again, relatively) pirates, right? So, you can write about successful and powerful pirates on a spaceship, or orc pirates on a wooden ship, or undead pirates, lizardmen pirates on a modern ship, and so on.

P.S. I'm not trying to "win" an argument, nor do I intend to change your opinion. I just wanted to talk about pirates, I guess?

 

[RepresentingSilence]

True, you've stated your opinion. I just think there is plenty of freedom with pirates, since a pirate is basically an outlaw on a ship. A bunch of bandits, rabble, robbers, or whatever you want to call them, on a ship. And bandits could be of different races, and pirates can use different ships. And even though a lot of them, just like your usual bandits, were poor fellas who were forced into becoming a pirate, it's not like there were zero powerful(relatively) or successful(again, relatively) pirates, right? So, you can write about successful and powerful pirates on a spaceship, or orc pirates on a wooden ship, or undead pirates, lizardmen pirates on a modern ship, and so on.

P.S. I'm not trying to "win" an argument, nor do I intend to change your opinion. I just wanted to talk about pirates, I guess?

Technically you could argue someone who just doesn't pay taxes to the government and does freelance work is a pirate

 

[BearlyAlive]

I used to like pirates, but One Piece destroyed it for me, so Demon Lords. If you had said freebooter, then I would've had to toss a coin, tho. There's something interesting about criminals sponsored by a nation or a political party. But stereotypical pirates, the rats of the oceans? Nope.

Now Pie Rats vs Demon Lord would have been more than obvious. The rat would have won, even without the need to offer pie.

 

[ArchlordZero]

How about this:
Drum roll please, wait for it....
Demon Pirates

 

[BlackKnightX]

(No a pirate demon lord cannot be your answer)

A pirate demon lord.

 

[2wordsperminute]

Because pirates can be smaller scale villains, they have the potential to do far more personally evil deeds to the protagonist's.

 

[Conqueror_Quack]

Which do you think are cooler? Am curious (No a pirate demon lord cannot be your answer)

What about Pirated Demonic Lord

 

[HungrySheep]

Demon lord if it's a hot girl.

 

[ThrillingHuman]

Back in the day, I have made enough contracts with the former for the rest of human history, and I work with many of the latter.
Infernal administrators are naturally better than off-brand sailors

 

[Prince_Azmiran_Myrian]

May the war stay perpetually at 50/50

 

[Deleted member 1244]

Ninjas, Obviously.

 

[Goodmann]

Pirates as pirates are murderous thieves; hateful. Who needs a demon Lord when a greedy ruthless human wanna-be Emperor is thoroughly sufficient as a Big Bad Evil Guy?

 

[Cipiteca396]

Maybe I just read too many 'real' books when I was a kid, but pirates feel way more overdone to me. So Just barely, I'll pick DL.

But only because I couldn't pick Demon Pirate Lord...
Give 'em some airships, some ninjutsu and magitech~... Now I'm starting to see an appeal.