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Recently commissioned a cover from @Little-Moon

I think the results came out really good. They were also incredibly patient with me, as this was my first commission and helped to walk me through the process. I just wanted to make a post to show off the art and give kudos to the artist. They really understood the assignment and definitely went above and beyond what I could have expected! Picture is in the spoiler tag below, assuming the image or link loaded properly.

Anyway, feel free to comment or give your thoughts... Also, any idea what I should do for a profile picture?


 

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I feel like there's something missing.

I like the watercolor motif, the car coming at the thing/person/whatever in the road has a nice tension while being distorted enough to not quite understand what's going on.

But something about it feels amateur to me, like there's something missing. I can't place it.
 

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I feel like there's something missing.

I like the watercolor motif, the car coming at the thing/person/whatever in the road has a nice tension while being distorted enough to not quite understand what's going on.

But something about it feels amateur to me, like there's something missing. I can't place it.
I honestly can't say. It definitely came out better than I could have expected, as I said above. If there's any issues with the work itself, I'd like to think I'm partly to blame for my lack of vision.

I am curious to hear what you think might be missing though. Assuming it ever clicks.
 

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I like the top part but hell if I know what's going on at the bottom. There's a bit problem with perspective I think. But I too love the water color effect and the color pallet.
 

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I like the composition, but I think the environment is too bright. We can see the moon in the sky and the car's headlight beams, but everything looks like daytime. At least, that's what I first thought of when mentioning "something wrong" (subjectively).

Perhaps darkening the whole thing except the tops of the mountains, the reflection on the car, and what's directly in the light beams would give it the extra sense of depth?
 

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It's a nice picture, but this sure as hell won't cut it as a book cover. Especially if you mostly upload your chapters online.

Try to adjust the size to match the size of all the stories appearing on the front page, and then see what remains. You can neither read the title nor can you even recognize the scene. It's all just a white blur.

Whoever created this for you may have taken your request into consideration, but has certainly never created covers for webnovel authors who publish online. It doesn't work as it doesn't draw in new viewers. It's perfect for people who are taking a good look at it, so your current readers will probably really like it.
This might work on an actual book cover if you have the book right in front of you, but online? No way.

Of course, that is just my personal opinion. As I said, the art itself is nice, and it seems to fit your request perfectly, but I don't see anyone clicking on that white blur if they spot it on the front page.

Maybe you do not care about publishing online or the number of readers and just want your exact, detailed vision brought to life. Maybe you are aiming for physical releases. If that's the case, then it's of course no problem at all, and all my points are moot.
 
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Recently commissioned a cover from @Little-Moon

I think the results came out really good. They were also incredibly patient with me, as this was my first commission and helped to walk me through the process. I just wanted to make a post to show off the art and give kudos to the artist. They really understood the assignment and definitely went above and beyond what I could have expected! Picture is in the spoiler tag below, assuming the image or link loaded properly.

Anyway, feel free to comment or give your thoughts... Also, any idea what I should do for a profile picture?


Thanks for the kind words ^^ it was very nice to work with you as well.

I also think as a suggestion for the profile picture...well it depends on what you want. But I would suggest something that connects to your username.
 

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Recently commissioned a cover from @Little-Moon

I think the results came out really good. They were also incredibly patient with me, as this was my first commission and helped to walk me through the process. I just wanted to make a post to show off the art and give kudos to the artist. They really understood the assignment and definitely went above and beyond what I could have expected! Picture is in the spoiler tag below, assuming the image or link loaded properly.

Anyway, feel free to comment or give your thoughts... Also, any idea what I should do for a profile picture?


Well, I'm far from an artist, or graphic designer, so I can't rightly critique the artwork itself beyond simply saying that I believe it is quite exceptional, and nothing following is in any way a reflection on the quality of the artwork presented.

What doesn't sit right with me (from a cover-design standpoint), is that the title and the cover art really don't blend well. I just can't see how the artwork itself has anything to do with the title (Unless of course, magical girls can transform into cars... which could certainly make for an interesting story premise).

As for what's missing, the Author's name isn't anywhere to be found on the cover there, so that'd be a minor drawback there.

The color choice for the font too, could probably be better, since the white blends too much into the background in some areas. (Even adding a bit of a drop-shadow onto the text could help mitigate that by creating some extra contrast for the white lettering to make it pop more).
 

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It's a nice picture, but this sure as hell won't cut it as a book cover. Especially if you mostly upload your chapters online.

Try to adjust the size to match the size of all the stories appearing on the front page, and then see what remains. You can neither read the title nor can you even recognize the scene. It's all just a white blur.

Whoever created this for you may have taken your request into consideration, but has certainly never created covers for webnovel authors who publish online. It doesn't work as it doesn't draw in new viewers. It's perfect for people who are taking a good look at it, so your current readers will probably really like it.
This might work on an actual book cover if you have the book right in front of you, but online? No way.

Of course, that is just my personal opinion. As I said, the art itself is nice, and it seems to fit your request perfectly, but I don't see anyone clicking on that white blur if they spot it on the front page.

Maybe you do not care about publishing online or the number of readers and just want your exact, detailed vision brought to life. Maybe you are aiming for physical releases. If that's the case, then it's of course no problem at all, and all my points are moot.
You're not wrong. I can also see what you mean regarding the font size. As for the whole online publishing part, well, it's a bit of a mixed bag to be honest. I kinda care, but at the same time, not that much. If I truly cared, I might have gone for a whole other cover, something that would definitely draw in views. At the same time, I don't really think my writing is deserving of that much attention, so yeah. I think as it is, the cover somewhat reflects my own story and thoughts towards it, as odd as that may sound.

As for physical release, it would be nice to have one, preferably when I finish the story, but that's unlikely to happen.
Well, I'm far from an artist, or graphic designer, so I can't rightly critique the artwork itself beyond simply saying that I believe it is quite exceptional, and nothing following is in any way a reflection on the quality of the artwork presented.

What doesn't sit right with me (from a cover-design standpoint), is that the title and the cover art really don't blend well. I just can't see how the artwork itself has anything to do with the title (Unless of course, magical girls can transform into cars... which could certainly make for an interesting story premise).

As for what's missing, the Author's name isn't anywhere to be found on the cover there, so that'd be a minor drawback there.

The color choice for the font too, could probably be better, since the white blends too much into the background in some areas. (Even adding a bit of a drop-shadow onto the text could help mitigate that by creating some extra contrast for the white lettering to make it pop more).
Probably. I did ask the artist to include my name, rather, pen name, and even include their name or handle as the artist. I wasn't and am still not overly concerned with how it looks. If I need too, I can go back and change it, if need be, for now, it isn't really a concern. As for the font itself, maybe a black or red outline might help it pop out more? That and maybe increasing the size of the font, like a previous poster said.

And the image is supposed to be a scene from the start of the story, like, literally, it's the opening scene in the story. The idea was, if they read it, they'd be able to go, oh hey! That's the opening! And sure, it may not draw viewers, but it might help get viewers to stick around.
I like the composition, but I think the environment is too bright. We can see the moon in the sky and the car's headlight beams, but everything looks like daytime. At least, that's what I first thought of when mentioning "something wrong" (subjectively).

Perhaps darkening the whole thing except the tops of the mountains, the reflection on the car, and what's directly in the light beams would give it the extra sense of depth?
I'd be interested in seeing how something like that would look. How exactly would you go about darkening it? Or where would you think a good place to start would be?
I like the top part but hell if I know what's going on at the bottom. There's a bit problem with perspective I think. But I too love the water color effect and the color pallet.
Yeah, I really wanted a painted, or water-color effect but I wasn't exactly sure how it would turn out. Moon did a great job with it. As for the perspective, it's supposed to be a bit off, at least, when I thought up the idea, I thought it would be a bit off, so it's kind of hard to judge if it's a good kind of off, or a bad kind of off. The idea was to lend more on the abstract side of the spectrum, so yeah.
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Now, overall, I'm glad to see so many people engaging! And I do enjoy hearing your insight!
Thanks for the kind words ^^ it was very nice to work with you as well.

I also think as a suggestion for the profile picture...well it depends on what you want. But I would suggest something that connects to your username.
No worries, I told you I'd make a post here, just took a bit since a lot has happened recently.

And what would that look like, in your opinion? Something that would reflect my username?
 

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Given the background color palette, I'd suggest a softer color for the outline.
A pale orange (Hex: #fcac6c for this one here) would probably be ideal given the blues of the background there, but sure; go with what you like. It's your cover.
 

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Given the background color palette, I'd suggest a softer color for the outline.
A pale orange (Hex: #fcac6c for this one here) would probably be ideal given the blues of the background there, but sure; go with what you like. It's your cover.
I'll make sure to give that a look, thank you!
 

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No worries, I told you I'd make a post here, just took a bit since a lot has happened recently.

And what would that look like, in your opinion? Something that would reflect my username?
Yes you did say so ^^

You picked up the thought, yes something to reflect your username since it is FleecedSheep, well I cannot help myself of sheep (the obvious) either in a logo format or maybe also something that is funny, cutsey, it all depends on where you want ot go with the vibe, animals open a lot of possibilities there, or if you have a specific character/avatar in mind creating that one.

Edit/Adding: Sheperts are also a possibility and there is a lot of stuff connected to sheep around.

Devinately something though you want to use on a long term basis, something you personally like, because a user-avatar is applicable for various purposes and you'll be most likely end up using it for a multitude of things and in a way also representing you thus.

(Example being as a autors note and if you go on several websides it serving there as a representation)

Added: Oh and there are also Fauns, which are a mythical creature that came to my mind when thinking of your user name somehow.
More adding stuff: Fauns are btw. from Greek mythology and depending on which legend you consult either acted as guides or as tricksters serving the god Pan, in the Roman world they were more associated with the beswitching woods of the Pan equivalent of rome the Faunus. They are orginally half human half goat but there are some depictations where they are portrayed as half sheep.
And now this post has grown a bit more then I intended.
 
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Yes you did say so ^^

You picked up the thought, yes something to reflect your username since it is FleecedSheep, well I cannot help myself of sheep (the obvious) either in a logo format or maybe also something that is funny, cutsey, it all depends on where you want ot go with the vibe, animals open a lot of possibilities there, or if you have a specific character/avatar in mind creating that one.

Edit/Adding: Sheperts are also a possibility and there is a lot of stuff connected to sheep around.

Devinately something though you want to use on a long term basis, something you personally like, because a user-avatar is applicable for various purposes and you'll be most likely end up using it for a multitude of things and in a way also representing you thus.

(Example being as a autors note and if you go on several websides it serving there as a representation)

Added: Oh and there are also Fauns, which are a mythical creature that came to my mind when thinking of your user name somehow.
More adding stuff: Fauns are btw. from Greek mythology and depending on which legend you consult either acted as guides or as tricksters serving the god Pan, in the Roman world they were more associated with the beswitching woods of the Pan equivalent of rome the Faunus. They are orginally half human half goat but there are some depictations where they are portrayed as half sheep.
And now this post has grown a bit more then I intended.
It's not a problem. Glad to see you had some ideas, I'll have to brainstorm a bit on that. I also imagine seeing a thread like this can be a little embarrassing for you, seeing as you're the artist.
 

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It's not a problem. Glad to see you had some ideas, I'll have to brainstorm a bit on that. I also imagine seeing a thread like this can be a little embarrassing for you, seeing as you're the artist.
Nah it's not embarrassing, it's perfectly fine, I did get some exposure and that is quite necessarity, adding to that some useful critiques, so don't worry about it.
 
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Nah it's not embarrassing, it's perfectly fine, I did get some exposure and that is quite necessarity, adding to that some useful critiques, so don't worry about it.
That's good to hear. Part of the reason it took me a bit was also because I wanted to figure how I wanted to make the post. I wanted to give you a public kudos, and also give you a bit of a boost, especially since you did such a good job. Maybe it helps you get commissions or not, but that was the primary reason for the post.

I think, personally, that there needs to be a more concentrated effort to boost artists within the community among authors to help shout out good artists. Partially to encourage more commissions overall, but also to help develop and create a space for artists to improve and find their niche. Not that I think I can make a significant difference on my own... but it's something I'd like to do or contribute towards.

Also, what are your thoughts on the criticism regarding the title font and coloring? Before making any changes on my end, I would like to hear your thoughts first and foremost, as you are the artist.
 

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That's good to hear. Part of the reason it took me a bit was also because I wanted to figure how I wanted to make the post. I wanted to give you a public kudos, and also give you a bit of a boost, especially since you did such a good job. Maybe it helps you get commissions or not, but that was the primary reason for the post.

I think, personally, that there needs to be a more concentrated effort to boost artists within the community among authors to help shout out good artists. Partially to encourage more commissions overall, but also to help develop and create a space for artists to improve and find their niche. Not that I think I can make a significant difference on my own... but it's something I'd like to do or contribute towards.

Also, what are your thoughts on the criticism regarding the title font and coloring? Before making any changes on my end, I would like to hear your thoughts first and foremost, as you are the artist.
Thanks, that's seriously something I wish more people would do but it doesn't happen.
I know that there is a lot of scamming aorund too hence a lot more people hesitate to contact artist or even work with the serious ones, having such a shoutout is a huge help and very rare to happen.

As for the font and coloring. Well I have overdone the light distribution of fog. (A bit of explanation here what I mean with that, now fog is a form of water, it reflects and dirstribute light naturally during the night making everything seem brighter especially on clear, crisp desert nights. If you want to look at it in nature I suggest you take a look at nature fotography you'llsee it there too, extremely bright nightscapes for a various reasons.)
Reading the comment and probably it should be toned down, to make it a touch darker.
Also I have to empathise of rabbit more, it's a hare and no one seems to be recognizing considering the fog.

As for the Typo, I believe it will improve generally with it, a slightly darker tint to the image and stronger emphathizing will help a lot with the lack of visibility, another thing is I would change is the general color. Make it more popping and maybe also increase the Size slightly, I would keep it a two liner though, even with the Size increase because otherwhise....the image and Typo will probably fly apart for lack of vocabulary to express it better in english. (Outline is an solid Idea but I'll be honest with you...I would balk at Skin-base tone pale Orange, that is down to the hex code one of the colors I block out paler-warm tone skin with. Black I can see, although probably will not help much, Red maybe but I have to see it, white no, will not make a significant difference I believe, but Orange will clash with the principal tones Blue-White of the image)
 
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I see that the environment is drawn quite decently, but the artist overdid the smoke/mist on the ground. I'd probably smooth out the strokes and lower the layer opacity for a better read of the picture.
 

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Thanks, that's seriously something I wish more people would do but it doesn't happen.
I know that there is a lot of scamming aorund too hence a lot more people hesitate to contact artist or even work with the serious ones, having such a shoutout is a huge help and very rare to happen.

As for the font and coloring. Well I have overdone the light distribution of fog. (A bit of explanation here what I mean with that, now fog is a form of water, it reflects and dirstribute light naturally during the night making everything seem brighter especially on clear, crisp desert nights. If you want to look at it in nature I suggest you take a look at nature fotography you'llsee it there too, extremely bright nightscapes for a various reasons.)
Reading the comment and probably it should be toned down, to make it a touch darker.
Also I have to empathise of rabbit more, it's a hare and no one seems to be recognizing considering the fog.

As for the Typo, I believe it will improve generally with it, a slightly darker tint to the image and stronger emphathizing will help a lot with the lack of visibility, another thing is I would change is the general color. Make it more popping and maybe also increase the Size slightly, I would keep it a two liner though, even with the Size increase because otherwhise....the image and Typo will probably fly apart for lack of vocabulary to express it better in english. (Outline is an solid Idea but I'll be honest with you...I would balk at Skin-base tone pale Orange, that is down to the hex code one of the colors I block out paler-warm tone skin with. Black I can see, although probably will not help much, Red maybe but I have to see it, white no, will not make a significant difference I believe, but Orange will clash with the principal tones Blue-White of the image)
Yeah, call-outs like this can also help deal with scammers. Rather, it can help keep people honest. Not to mention, having people to vouch for your work can help quite a bit when it comes to setting the initial trust. I think pride might be a factor as well, since a lot of people wouldn't be very forthcoming even if they were scammed.

Also, think you'd like giving the type-setting a second chance? You could post it here, and reply it to some of the people that gave tips, just to see if it looks better. Might be good practice. If not, no pressure, I'll get to fixing it eventually.

I see that the environment is drawn quite decently, but the artist overdid the smoke/mist on the ground. I'd probably smooth out the strokes and lower the layer opacity for a better read of the picture.
I'm not the artist, so I can't speak for them. Nor do I know enough about the specifics of art to make a proper statement on this. Hopefully Moon sees this and makes a comment. I do thank you for your contribution to the discussion though!
 

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Yeah, call-outs like this can also help deal with scammers. Rather, it can help keep people honest. Not to mention, having people to vouch for your work can help quite a bit when it comes to setting the initial trust. I think pride might be a factor as well, since a lot of people wouldn't be very forthcoming even if they were scammed.

Also, think you'd like giving the type-setting a second chance? You could post it here, and reply it to some of the people that gave tips, just to see if it looks better. Might be good practice. If not, no pressure, I'll get to fixing it eventually.


I'm not the artist, so I can't speak for them. Nor do I know enough about the specifics of art to make a proper statement on this. Hopefully Moon sees this and makes a comment. I do thank you for your contribution to the discussion though!
I will try it privately to improve the Typo and Illustration in the future when I find the time to do so, as the commission itself is closed. So you will likely come around to doing it yourself sooner.
 
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