Need help to establish my common sense

[CheertheDead]

I haven’t read enough to know what is the norm.

In term of gore, abuse, and other stuffs, I have never understood what is too much and what is too little.

For example, if someone asked me how much is gory, I would have no idea. Yes, I can tolerate a lot of stuff and I watched a lot of thing including real life executions.

This led to the problem that I have no solid understanding of where the normal people considered medium, too much, or little.

This also expanded to the sexual abuse too. I mean I am appalled that people would call rape as something they couldn’t take it. What the hell am I supposed to label whatever the other thing that I read if they say rape is too much for them?

It’s like I am eating raw garlic for breakfast and suddenly I meet people that couldn’t handle the tiny bits of cooked garlic.



It would help me greatly if you can post something for me to read (small paragraphs) and you tell me how gory texts are.

EDIT 1:
I think I didn't make it clear.
I got a general understanding of where to put the gore tag because I asked about that before.
I also don't care whether my viewers can handle the gore or not.

What I want to know is how normal people consider what is normal gore or too much and what is their threshold.
When you get too acquainted with dead matters, it becomes hard to understand what the normal people couldn't handle. That deals a heavy blow to my creativity since the personalities pool for my characters diminish.

I need to know the rule and the standard if I want to make variants of such thing.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

There is no norm\common sense.

 

[AnUnknownMan]

Use your content warning tags. If need be just say it in the description. Unless you are going for shock value/a loss of innocence you can include a scene at the start of the story to set the tone.

 

[Amok]

as a child I used to look away during horrible scenes. now i'm simply jaded. but yeah, depends on readership, just slap the tag on and don't worry about it.

 

[BlackKnightX]

For me personally, if there’s no entails hanging out of the stomach, brain matters splattered all over the place, the eyeball bulging out, there’s no gore.

 

[Lloyd]

Who cares?

 

[PancakesWitch]

I'm fairly sure most of the popular novels in this site (and even royal road) have insane amounts of gore and other dark things. However, there is somethign called "tone" to a story, if you really want to make your story about these dark themes, then tag your story as grimdark fantasy/fiction, people that go to your novel thinking it is a lighthearted adventure will simply get surprised over it and rather terrefied by the sudden tone shifts. However, you can also make tone shifts later on in stories, when readers are already engaged and can even swallow them better, if you do it at chapter one without tagging your novel correctly... yeah, you're going to get a lot of people complaning. You either do something or not. its not like two or three guys telling your story has too much gore means the entire reading population thinks the same, dont generalize. If your novel hasnt reached more readers then it is boring or not engaging enough

 

[ConansWitchBaby]

I find it that up to dismemberment gets a usual pass. It's more the emotional response by the characters that gets to people. Like reading or watching about a gunfight is so common place we tend to just file it away as more stuff that is happening. While realistically there would be stuff that was inside now being outside stuff we ignore it if it isn't explicitly brought up . Once screaming and begging is added to the mix people notice it in their own way.

 

[ModernGold7ne]

I can't tell you much about sexual content but gore is just describing injuries.

 

[Bartun]

Do you mean what people consider normal, or what this site considers normal? I know exactly how you feel.

I think the barrier between simple violence and outright gore would be the loss of limbs. I think anyone can handle blood, but the loss of a limb is something else, especially if the poor victim doesn't die right away, or at all. Also, in the description of the violence portrayed, there is a huge difference between a headshot with a little hole and blood, and half the brain being blown from the back of the head.

As for sexual abuse goes, the line is pretty clear, rape is a special kind of evil and should not be taken lightly. I guess the revulsion is not about people not being able to handle it but not warning the reader of the tone of the work. I'm fine with people using rape as a literary resource to raise the stakes and enhance the narrative but I'm against it when it's used cheaply, especially when some people treat it as just a minor inconvenience.

 

[Maze_Runner]

I mean . . . Nothing is honestly normal here

 

[NotaNuffian]

Pretty sad that everyone is trying to reassure @CheertheDead that his common sense has not gone awry and not actively fucking with it so that he may write something so depraved that Slaanesh would personally come down and crown him as the new prince of pleasure.

Also, people are people, there is no fixed standard because not everyone has the same threshold. You can be the pioneer and set the rules, I will give you fifteen minutes/ hours/ days to receive complaints of it being too harsh/ soft and have to take it down later.

 

[CheertheDead]

There is no norm\common sense.

Use your content warning tags. If need be just say it in the description. Unless you are going for shock value/a loss of innocence you can include a scene at the start of the story to set the tone.

as a child I used to look away during horrible scenes. now i'm simply jaded. but yeah, depends on readership, just slap the tag on and don't worry about it.

Who cares?

I'm fairly sure most of the popular novels in this site (and even royal road) have insane amounts of gore and other dark things. However, there is somethign called "tone" to a story, if you really want to make your story about these dark themes, then tag your story as grimdark fantasy/fiction, people that go to your novel thinking it is a lighthearted adventure will simply get surprised over it and rather terrefied by the sudden tone shifts. However, you can also make tone shifts later on in stories, when readers are already engaged and can even swallow them better, if you do it at chapter one without tagging your novel correctly... yeah, you're going to get a lot of people complaning. You either do something or not. its not like two or three guys telling your story has too much gore means the entire reading population thinks the same, dont generalize. If your novel hasnt reached more readers then it is boring or not engaging enough

I mean . . . Nothing is honestly normal here

I think I didn't make it clear.
I got a general understanding of where to put the gore tag because I asked about that before.
I also don't care whether my viewers can handle the gore or not.

What I want to know is how normal people consider what is normal gore or too much and what is their threshold.
When you get too acquainted with dead matters, it becomes hard to understand what the normal people couldn't handle. That deals a heavy blow to my creativity since the personalities pool for my characters diminish.

I need to know the rule and the standard if I want to make variants of such thing.

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Pretty sad that everyone is trying to reassure @CheertheDead that his common sense has not gone awry and not actively fucking with it so that he may write something so depraved that Slaanesh would personally come down and crown him as the new prince of pleasure.

Also, people are people, there is no fixed standard because not everyone has the same threshold. You can be the pioneer and set the rules, I will give you fifteen minutes/ hours/ days to receive complaints of it being too harsh/ soft and have to take it down later.

That little prince of the warp is in direct conflict with Her Unholiness. Don't you spout such insanity as I fall into the rank of heretics.

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For me personally, if there’s no entails hanging out of the stomach, brain matters splattered all over the place, the eyeball bulging out, there’s no gore.

It's bit general, but I can understand. Although that sounds more cartoonish than graphical.

I find it that up to dismemberment gets a usual pass. It's more the emotional response by the characters that gets to people. Like reading or watching about a gunfight is so common place we tend to just file it away as more stuff that is happening. While realistically there would be stuff that was inside now being outside stuff we ignore it if it isn't explicitly brought up . Once screaming and begging is added to the mix people notice it in their own way.

The immaterial values are thing I set to emotional trauma and not gore. I don't think I got the picture.

I can't tell you much about sexual content but gore is just describing injuries.

Ok. Then what is too much gore?

Do you mean what people consider normal, or what this site considers normal? I know exactly how you feel.

I think the barrier between simple violence and outright gore would be the loss of limbs. I think anyone can handle blood, but the loss of a limb is something else, especially if the poor victim doesn't die right away, or at all. Also, in the description of the violence portrayed, there is a huge difference between a headshot with a little hole and blood, and half the brain being blown from the back of the head.

As for sexual abuse goes, the line is pretty clear, rape is a special kind of evil and should not be taken lightly. I guess the revulsion is not about people not being able to handle it but not warning the reader of the tone of the work. I'm fine with people using rape as a literary resource to raise the stakes and enhance the narrative but I'm against it when it's used cheaply, especially when some people treat it as just a minor inconvenience.

That's more detailed than other answers. I think I got a better grip on the topic now. Still, it is not enough.

 

[NotaNuffian]

What I want to know is how normal people consider what is normal gore or too much and what is their threshold.

Then you"re in luck!

I'm not normal. Most of us here aren't as well.

 

[ModernGold7ne]

Ok. Then what is too much gore?

Think mortal kombat, if it can't be in the game, its probably too much, otherwise no body can answer that question, too much or too little is based on perspective and whenever it comes to gore or sexual violence, everyone has their own threshold.

 

[Ai-chan]

Normal:
Norman pushed his sword deeper into the man before him. Around him, the soldiers from both sides were doing the same thing. No mercy, no hesitation. Those who lost an arm, fought with their other. Those who lost their legs crawled on the piles of corpses and stabbed those they could reach. Those who have lost their head swung their swords aimlessly. As for the man before him, he grabbed Norman's head with his large hand, trying to crush it with his remaining strength. But Norman didn't allow him to do so. With one powerful upward slash, he severed the man in the middle, destroying the man in a cloud of blood and filth. Such is the punishment for those who spent their lives in battle.

 

[RepresentingWrath]

I think I didn't make it clear.
I got a general understanding of where to put the gore tag because I asked about that before.
I also don't care whether my viewers can handle the gore or not.

What I want to know is how normal people consider what is normal gore or too much and what is their threshold.
When you get too acquainted with dead matters, it becomes hard to understand what the normal people couldn't handle. That deals a heavy blow to my creativity since the personalities pool for my characters diminish.

I need to know the rule and the standard if I want to make variants of such thing.

There is no norm\normal gore. People from different countries, cultures, personalities, and with different life experiences read web novels. There is no unified common sense. A surgeon is a normal person, or not? Does a surgeon has the same tolerance towards gore or not? What about those who didn't read\saw gore at all, those who avoid it because it disgusts them? Those who lose consciousness when they see blood? Those who read guro? What is the norm for the aforementioned four, and what would be their combined common sense? No gore at all? Some 'light' gore?

 

[Amok]

pretty much what salius said. in life you'll meet folk who get squeemish on seeing a small cut to folk'll stand emotionlessly by watching a tire-necklaced man burn to death. i guess if you wanna have a ruler to measure this shit tho you can just imagine your chapters as films and judge what they'll be rated as. i'm not a fan of rating systems and tags and whatnot, but this is a public site so yeah not everyone here's gonna want to read smut, not everyone's gonna want read bout a person getting their eyes scooped out and fed to the crows.

 

[Deleted member 68927]

I haven’t read enough to know what is the norm.

In term of gore, abuse, and other stuffs, I have never understood what is too much and what is too little.

For example, if someone asked me how much is gory, I would have no idea. Yes, I can tolerate a lot of stuff and I watched a lot of thing including real life executions.

This led to the problem that I have no solid understanding of where the normal people considered medium, too much, or little.

This also expanded to the sexual abuse too. I mean I am appalled that people would call rape as something they couldn’t take it. What the hell am I supposed to label whatever the other thing that I read if they say rape is too much for them?

It’s like I am eating raw garlic for breakfast and suddenly I meet people that couldn’t handle the tiny bits of cooked garlic.



It would help me greatly if you can post something for me to read (small paragraphs) and you tell me how gory texts are.

EDIT 1:
I think I didn't make it clear.
I got a general understanding of where to put the gore tag because I asked about that before.
I also don't care whether my viewers can handle the gore or not.

What I want to know is how normal people consider what is normal gore or too much and what is their threshold.
When you get too acquainted with dead matters, it becomes hard to understand what the normal people couldn't handle. That deals a heavy blow to my creativity since the personalities pool for my characters diminish.

I need to know the rule and the standard if I want to make variants of such thing.

Too little is when you would be fine if it happens to you. Enough, if you are ok wishing it on your enemy. Too much is when you wouldn't be able to do that. Excessively much is when even you are squeamish at the idea.

 

[CheertheDead]

Too little is when you would be fine if it happens to you. Enough, if you are ok wishing it on your enemy. Too much is when you wouldn't be able to do that. Excessively much is when even you are squeamish at the idea.

Yeah and I have no idea how people think if it is ok to wish upon their enemies or not.
That’s literally my point. I don’t know what people think. Which is why I ask what do they think specifically.